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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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Missohnoyoubetterdont · 03/05/2025 10:31

Not another H and M bashing thread. Don’t you people have something better to do?

SirRaymondClench · 03/05/2025 10:32

TasWair · 02/05/2025 17:53

It really is not a shocking thing to say about an elderly man. The context is that Charles isn't talking to him, and that Harry wants to make amends because life is short.
I can't envisage any situation where I wouldn't talk to my children tbh, even if I didn't approve of the way they live or of their spouse. It must be absolutely awful for Harry that his father won't speak to him, but seems to have forgiven the horrific transgressions of his brother, Andrew.

If your children were constantly selling stories about you to the press and whining about how you don't send enough money and trashing your job, calling you racist whilst knowing you can't respond, then you might feel differently about letting them get too close.

Baital · 03/05/2025 10:32

Another 'bashing his family' interview by Harry. Doesn't he have something better to do?

Unijourney · 03/05/2025 10:36

I would always want a relationship with my kids, even if I felt I couldn't trust them

But it would be a superficial relationship where you have to watch what you say and do. It would be toxic so I understand that people believe it's better to grieve the relationship and go NC.

DodgersJammyAndOtherwise · 03/05/2025 10:38

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 10:02

The UK press was positively hagiographic about Meghan and her marriage to Harry until she and he started accusing them of racism. That went down like a bucket of cold sick, because it wasn't true.

Then they preached that hoi polloi should stop flying to save the planet, before promptly hopping on Elton John's private jet to go on holibobs. THAT was the moment that it turned.

The British press knew things about Meghan that the Palace also knew and asked them to keep to themselves, which they obediently did. But when, in journalists' minds, she failed to uphold her end of the bargain by painting them as little better than quislings writing for the Voelkischer Beobachter, they quite reasonably decided the gloves were off. They weren't going to spill the stuff they'd discovered about her behaviour towards Royal staff, or in the run up to the engagement announcement, because the Palace had asked them not to. But they weren't going to treat her with kid gloves anymore either.

Same with Harry. The media obediently spiked the many stories about his, shall we say, less than Royal behaviour over the years, and went with the carefully crated cheeky chappy image the Palace demanded. But now that he's been drgaging them through the courts, they're understandably less keen to toe the line, and since he's not a proper royal anymore, they don't have to fear losing access.

Sure they'll keep Liz Jones and Bryony on the payroll to write the odd sympathetic piece, just in case he has any British fans left. other than that, though, that particular ship has sailed.

Ahh OK thanks. I'm not a big media watcher but this makes sense on a human interaction level.

I do believe that Harry is still being treated with kid gloves or his comment about KC would be headlines on the news but it's been let drift.

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

Laserwho · 03/05/2025 10:40

After his latest outburst (pathetic interview) I really hope the palace will now remove all their royal titles. All he does is lie repeatedly. The UK population , at least everyone I know despises him and M and don't want him to return especially after what he put the queen through and knows the king.

Whaleandsnail6 · 03/05/2025 10:40

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 03/05/2025 10:31

Not another H and M bashing thread. Don’t you people have something better to do?

Having negative opinions of what someone says in an interview and how they act publicly is hardly "bashing"

Its his choice to do these interviews and write these books. With that comes positive and negative opinions that people will discuss

Unijourney · 03/05/2025 10:40

Missohnoyoubetterdont, assume you have watched the interview?

Harry clearly wants publicity in the UK, hence the interview, unfortunately he assumes he will get positive coverage but he doesn't seem to understand how poorly he comes over. No one is making up what he says, it's his own words and he can't seem to recognise his victim mentality.

He can't be happy as no one who is truly happy behaves like this.

Laserwho · 03/05/2025 10:44

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

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He has security in the uk, he just needs to give notice. He has bespoke security to suit his needs. What he wants to do is have instantly without notice. Sorry if he leaves the country as given up the role of working royal he needs to give notice. In my mind he is lucky to get what he gets.

NewAgeNewMe · 03/05/2025 10:45

Harry has security but needs to give notice. How many bloody times do posters have to say this???

KatherineParr · 03/05/2025 10:45

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

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Given that the Queen asked for security to continue, and offered to pay for it, what do you think the Royal Family should have done differently to show that they care?

Waspee · 03/05/2025 10:47

While Prince Harry does still get police protection in the UK, it is not automatic and he has to give plenty of notice of visits - which, he has argued, could expose him and his family to danger.

(BBC News)

KilkennyCats · 03/05/2025 10:48

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

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His family not caring whether he lived or dies is utter nonsense.
He does have security.
What have you failed to grasp here?

KilkennyCats · 03/05/2025 10:48

NewAgeNewMe · 03/05/2025 10:45

Harry has security but needs to give notice. How many bloody times do posters have to say this???

About every third post, I reckon.
And they still don’t hear it 🤦‍♀️

NautilusLionfish · 03/05/2025 10:50

jan2310 · 03/05/2025 07:49

Harry said ‘it’s really sad I won’t be able to show my children my homeland’. Utter nonsense. He can visit the king any time and would have security. He can apply in advance for security for other visits as per the protocols. Childish, emotional blackmail.

But he can't take them to Grimsby or Blackpool can he? He wants the to visit Ladywood Birmingham or even Croydon without having to go there with his dad.

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:51

KatherineParr · 03/05/2025 10:45

Given that the Queen asked for security to continue, and offered to pay for it, what do you think the Royal Family should have done differently to show that they care?

I had already stated multiple times, that if the Queen( the only one that I had a modicum of respect for) was still with us, we would not have this debacle.

It was her wish that H&M had the level of security they are currently requesting. However, Charles did not respect her mother's wish and has a hand in this final verdict.

User14March · 03/05/2025 10:52

Unijourney · 03/05/2025 10:40

Missohnoyoubetterdont, assume you have watched the interview?

Harry clearly wants publicity in the UK, hence the interview, unfortunately he assumes he will get positive coverage but he doesn't seem to understand how poorly he comes over. No one is making up what he says, it's his own words and he can't seem to recognise his victim mentality.

He can't be happy as no one who is truly happy behaves like this.

Edited

Yes, the best ‘revenge’ is living very well after all.

Serenster · 03/05/2025 10:53

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

This is exactly the emotional blackmail that Harry is throwing around. He’s hoping that people fall for it, and as we can see, people are.

This is not an issue about how much Harry’s family cares about him and his safety (and just to note: none of us have any idea what their feelings are). It’s an issue about the boundaries between a constitutional monarchy and the government, and then around how that government makes decisions around how it allocates the (very scarce resource) of round the clock armed security.

Within that dispute, we do actually know some details about Harry’s family’s attitude. They offered to pay for the security - like Harry later, they were told that was impossible. His family’s position was that they would support “the Sussexes in making the case for effective support from Her Majesty’s Government and Canadian and other host Governments, whilst noting that these are independent processes and decisions for those Governments”. They also explicitly offered Meghan and Harry a one year trial period, so they could return to the fold (and the security) if they wished.

Harry and Meghan had it made perfectly clear to them in January 2020 by the Cabinet Secretary, not the Palace, that if they moved to Canada and ceased royal duties, not only that their security could be removed, it was highly likely it would be. They chose to move nonetheless, knowing that.

Harry has now wasted a lot of money and time trying to get the government’s decision overturned. And he failed - they were lawfully entitled to make the decisions they did.

Even if Harry had remained in the UK, his security would have been downgraded in due course - as has happened to everyone else in his family not in the direct line of succession.

These are the facts. Throwing around emotional claptrap doesn’t change them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391916/Edward-Sophie-lose-1m-police-protection-Royal-security-costs-cut.html

Edward and Sophie lose £1m police protection as Royal costs are cut

Prince Edward and Sophie, pictured, are said to be 'very unhappy' about the proposal to strip them of police protection when they are not on official engagements.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391916/Edward-Sophie-lose-1m-police-protection-Royal-security-costs-cut.html

DontTellMeWhat2Do · 03/05/2025 10:53

I question whether William was ever called 'willy' as Harry's book alleges. I suspect its a dig at him that American readers might not get but us Brits will. To my knowledge, he's always been called William or Wills.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 10:54

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

Edited

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Do you really think this maudlin melodrama helps your 'case'?

And if his family is really that dreadful, why doesn't he simply cut all ties?

KilkennyCats · 03/05/2025 10:54

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:51

I had already stated multiple times, that if the Queen( the only one that I had a modicum of respect for) was still with us, we would not have this debacle.

It was her wish that H&M had the level of security they are currently requesting. However, Charles did not respect her mother's wish and has a hand in this final verdict.

The Queen’s offer to pay was turned down!!
Your continuing to argue with very limited understanding is making me squirm for you, tbh.

Serenster · 03/05/2025 10:55

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:51

I had already stated multiple times, that if the Queen( the only one that I had a modicum of respect for) was still with us, we would not have this debacle.

It was her wish that H&M had the level of security they are currently requesting. However, Charles did not respect her mother's wish and has a hand in this final verdict.

The Queen was very much alive when Meghan and Harry left the UK. And yet, they didn’t get continued security. And the Queen knew better than to interfere in a decision of the Home Office and its delegated committee that was tasked with making decisions.

As set above, the Royal Family’s position was that they would support “the Sussexes in making the case for effective support from Her Majesty’s Government and Canadian and other host Governments, whilst noting that these are independent processes and decisions for those Governments”.

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:56

It is not a matter of being happy or not. It is one thing to be estranged from part of your family ( he is still close to the Spencers' side of his family and has friends in the UK ), but not being able to bring your kids safely to your country is a totally different matter. He should be able to travel Safely to his country with his children whenever he chooses to.

KatherineParr · 03/05/2025 10:57

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:51

I had already stated multiple times, that if the Queen( the only one that I had a modicum of respect for) was still with us, we would not have this debacle.

It was her wish that H&M had the level of security they are currently requesting. However, Charles did not respect her mother's wish and has a hand in this final verdict.

But 'this debacle' was agreed when the Queen was alive! Harry's security arrangements haven't changed since her death. Do you think Charles overruled the Queen? How would he have had the power to do so? And what are his motivations? Why would he care if the UK government continue to pick up the bill for Harry's security costs? It's our money at the end of the day, not his personal fortune.

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