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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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Imbusytodaysorry · 03/05/2025 09:51

BobbleHatsRule · 03/05/2025 08:58

The 'Royal household' (grey suited string pullers? KC or William?) were pissed at H&M not doing as instructed and taught them a lesson by lowering their security risk. H&M didn't respond to that manipulation in the way they expected and so security pulled even more. H&M upped and left.

He obviously feels that security was used to bring him into line and has chosen not to toe the line. His family have washed their hands of him.

The RF are pretty disgusting supporting a paedophile, exhalting an adulterer and being disingenuous in claiming cancer rather than the read truth of pre cancerous...to woo public sympathy. Pre cancerous is still terrifying so why she had to inflate it is beyond me. (Perhaps her husband and her stopping any pretence at 'work' would t sit so well?) The sycophantic public lap it up and so the RF trudged on exploiting the public...let them eat cake....

Catherine didn’t have cancer ?

Fluffyholeysocks · 03/05/2025 09:52

I think these interviews just show how much he misses the RF advisors and the BP machine. He's a 40 year old man continuing to complain about the consequences of a decision he made years ago. In previous interviews he complained his father had cut him off financially (he's 40!) he now says he's forgiven the RF and wants a reconciliation. Surely some of his current advisors could tell him just how badly these interviews are landing with the general public. These constant snipes from a man living a life of luxury in the US are tiresome. He needs to stop the interviews, find a purpose and move on. As he gets older, his relevance will diminish, yes he was part of the RF, but he chose not to 'serve' the country. With that choice comes consequences.

NautilusLionfish · 03/05/2025 09:53

LizzieSiddal · 03/05/2025 09:09

But what iif you knew that when you spoke to your child, everything you said would be on the front page of every newspaper the next day?

Yes. I would still want a relationship. Also Charles does have to say bad things in front of Harry. He just has to be a good person. Besides be honest how many interviews has Harry done and how much substance has he given away. Not much. So that irrational fear of "he will disclose to the press" is false if that is what they fear.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 03/05/2025 09:55

DeffoNeedANameChange · 03/05/2025 09:18

Then I would be very careful to stick to discussing the weather. But I couldn't go all those years without speaking to them at all. I'd even take a few bad headlines (especially because actually a headline where Charles has tried to meet with Harry, and then Harry's instantly betrayed that meeting, still looks good for the Charles PR machine)

It hasn't been "all these years" though. We know because Harry leaked it that he and Chas met briefly after his cancer diagnosis early last year. As other posters have pointed out his dad probably isn't allowed to talk to him due to conflict of interest in the case Harry chose to bring about. Whether they will talk again after this shambles remains to be seen but no doubt we'll find out soon enough, when H needs a few more quid and gives an interview to some quarter of the media he professes to hate.

sualipa · 03/05/2025 09:56

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 09:20

Yes. It reminded me of the (now famous) phrase that Alistair Campbell eventually forced a very recalcitrant Queen to say in her unprecedented live broadcast on 5 September 1997, "speaking as a grandmother".

I have zero professional respect for Campbell and nor do the vast majority of my media contacts: he was a bully, a manipulator and completely devoid of anything resembling a moral code. He forced the Queen into doing that broadcast by dangling the spectre of a republican revolution in front of her (it's hard to explain to the young 'uns just how febrile the public mood was in that strange first week of September 1997).

Still, a stopped clock is right twice a day, and Campbell was right to make her to the broadcast and right to add in that phrase, although she never forgave him or Blair for it. It defused the Sun's and Mirror's republican sabre rattling at a stroke.

I think Harry's advisers were trying for something similar. Alas for Harry, the Queen was clever, far-sighted and pragmatic. Harry, on the other hand...

We got the flag down by popular unrest - here in Kent we remember what the monarch did to Wat Tyler after promises made by the King were broken. Ignore the people at your peril you live in your gilded cages partly as a result of our wills.

Bontonbonbon · 03/05/2025 09:56

It is also clear now that everything that they were accused of during Mexit was true:

  • They wanted to move abroad to have more freedom to control their own PR (disaster so far)
  • They wanted to merchandise their royal connections (going pretty badly too)
  • They wanted to set up a rival court in LA to prove they were better and more popular (they have said this openly even though it is demonstrably not true).
  • They wanted to keep IPP status while they did this. Harry has now said this quite clearly, even if he thinks he hasn’t.

Essentially, they wanted the British public to pay for them to exploit the British royal image overseas for profit, while at the same
tome undermining the image of the RF. And they didn’t expect anyone to protest.

The level of entitlement is obscene.

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 09:57

Bontonbonbon · 03/05/2025 09:49

@Walkaround

I think the problem is that he didn’t really want to leave. Someone had convinced him that he could
move abroad, giving up most of his royal duties and still have all the perks.

Whoever is was (and I have my suspicions) knew nothing about constitutional monarchy or the job of a working royal.

He was sold an idea and he is still clinging to it for dear life. He’s like a toddler who cannot let go of the thing they want that doesn’t exist.

Yes. I think stepping away was about them becoming ‘celebrities’ rather than royals. The problem is the celebrity bit comes from being royal.

BashfulClam · 03/05/2025 09:57

I hope the tiara story is true. Apparently they moved Eugenie’s wedding so Harry could get married first as Meghan was pregnant (that’s what the glances during the ceremony when children were mentioned were all about!)

Megan wanted the tiara promised to Eugenia and was told no. Harry called up his elderly grandmother shouting about what Meghan wanted Meghan gets. Now the actual Queen, the boss didn’t take too kindly and said ‘I would actually say that Meghan gets what she is given!’

If that is true then i still love the Queen as no one pushed her around.

User14March · 03/05/2025 09:58

Bontonbonbon · 03/05/2025 09:40

Surely that is their problem. They chose this through their own actions. I am now totally convinced that they were leaking stories about other family members and were caught doing it. So when they asked for half in half out the family knew that they couldn’t be trusted to abide by family protocol.

It is so obvious that he is miserable being shut out but he has not learned the lesson. Shut up about your family. Stop selling stories to who ever will pay you. Perhaps learn that no one wants to deal with someone with no discretion, especially not big Hollywood producers. My husband works in film and the NDAs are iron clad. Who would trust him now?

He’s blown up his own life and he not even clever enough to see that.

Yep. Maintaining & improving lifestyle & status the crux & informs all.

SuperTrooper14 · 03/05/2025 09:59

Profhilodisaster · 03/05/2025 09:44

@SuperTrooper14 and he said some of his family wouldn't forgive him for Spare . Some?!

Presumably the ones that he didn't do a hatchet job on, like Anne, Sophie, Edward, and his cousins. But he's again deluded if he thinks they won't be collectively upset that he's raking the monarchy through the mud again. I imagine Anne and Edward in particular will be appalled that he's publicly raised when Charles might die.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 03/05/2025 10:00

wrinklyoldarms · 03/05/2025 09:19

He only had gravitas because the interviewer lapped up his answers, gave him free rein and didn't ask one probing question.

Had he been grilled by Maitliss, Emma Barnett, or any other feisty journalist the cracks would show.

Agree. The interviewer last night was basically fangirling over him.

Would love to see him have the balls to take on Emily Maitliss.

KatherineParr · 03/05/2025 10:02

It's not just what Harry might leak. It's what he might misunderstand/misinterpret/make up on the grounds that:

"Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts."

I wouldn't want to talk to him either.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/05/2025 10:02

Horticula · 02/05/2025 22:33

I wonder why the BBC interviewer didn't ask Harry why he didn't think that the RAVEC approved security he gets currently, where he just has to give a month's notice of coming to Britain, isn't good enough for him and his wife and children to come safely to this country.

It's the question so many have wondered about, but with the pettish response to even the mildest questions Harry's demonstrated before there's every chance he'd have walked out and that would have spoiled the BBC's "scoop"

I'm only surprised, given Harry's attitude about the family wishing to harm him and his comment that his mother was "basically murdered", that he hasn't yet accused them of doing exactly that to Diana

Maybe in a future interview ...

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 10:02

DodgersJammyAndOtherwise · 03/05/2025 09:28

Far more eloquently put than my attempt but yes, 100%. The comment about his father was one of the worst things I have ever heard on the television. It really shows an astonishing lack of ...well, everything really. Decency, sense of occasion, propriety. No wonder his father won't take his calls. I would be hiring a hitman!

When MM was first introduced to us Brits. I was staggered at how rude the press were about her. It was absolutely vicious and I was shocked but now I'm wondering if they could see something.

I really wanted them to go off and live a quiet hippy life in the sun with an occasional interview with flowers in their hair which would have made them no target of any sort. Instead, we have this total shitshow of fame hungry, snot nosed bleating and endless attempts at reinventing themselves. Ugh!

The UK press was positively hagiographic about Meghan and her marriage to Harry until she and he started accusing them of racism. That went down like a bucket of cold sick, because it wasn't true.

Then they preached that hoi polloi should stop flying to save the planet, before promptly hopping on Elton John's private jet to go on holibobs. THAT was the moment that it turned.

The British press knew things about Meghan that the Palace also knew and asked them to keep to themselves, which they obediently did. But when, in journalists' minds, she failed to uphold her end of the bargain by painting them as little better than quislings writing for the Voelkischer Beobachter, they quite reasonably decided the gloves were off. They weren't going to spill the stuff they'd discovered about her behaviour towards Royal staff, or in the run up to the engagement announcement, because the Palace had asked them not to. But they weren't going to treat her with kid gloves anymore either.

Same with Harry. The media obediently spiked the many stories about his, shall we say, less than Royal behaviour over the years, and went with the carefully crated cheeky chappy image the Palace demanded. But now that he's been drgaging them through the courts, they're understandably less keen to toe the line, and since he's not a proper royal anymore, they don't have to fear losing access.

Sure they'll keep Liz Jones and Bryony on the payroll to write the odd sympathetic piece, just in case he has any British fans left. other than that, though, that particular ship has sailed.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 10:03

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 08:11

The fact that you and other avid royalists don't want him here is irrelevant.

There are many people that would delighted to have Harry and his family to come to visit.

Most importantly, this is Henry's s country and he is entitled to come to visit with his children whenever he wants.

By virtue of who he is, is also entitled to life- long security which is not a Royal perk.

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There are many people that would delighted to have Harry and his family to come to visit.

Among the general public? No, really, very few people give a shit.

Most importantly, this is Henry's s country and he is entitled to come to visit with his children whenever he wants.

Who's stopping him?

By virtue of who he is, is also entitled to life- long security which is not a Royal perk.

That's simply incorrect, but facts are petty useless here.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 10:05

sualipa · 03/05/2025 09:56

We got the flag down by popular unrest - here in Kent we remember what the monarch did to Wat Tyler after promises made by the King were broken. Ignore the people at your peril you live in your gilded cages partly as a result of our wills.

It didn't get as far as popular unrest, and Wat Tyler was positively licking Richard ii's arse at the London Bridge meeting.

Tyler was killed by William Walworth after he attacked John Newton, unprovoked, when the King had offered him assurances and safe passage.

Unijourney · 03/05/2025 10:07

They can visit if adequate notice is given. It's Harry wanting his own way as usual. And if he doesn't get it he gives an interview listing his grievances

He says that if he returns for non Royal duties he doesn't get security. Not sure that's the case? He says if he is invited by his family he gets security, if he comes for any other reason he doesn't. He is blaming Charles, who can "step aside" to let the process happen and let his personal risk assessed properly. He is blaming the Royal household for stopping this from happening.

He does seem to enjoy being the "most at risk", he mentioned QE2 having a lower risk than him. That feels narcissist as I suspect his behaviour (such as parties etc) caused higher risks.

He also mentioned that he wanted an official role , after leaving, but it was rejected by the "household"..it was the Queen who rightly saw he would milk the brand for cash.

He says "from disclosure some people want history to repeat itself, which is pretty dark" He won't say who they are "at this point". Another threat for Spare2?

He said his family "not only didn't keep me safe but signalled to every other government around the world not to protect us"

This is yet another damming interview to add to his previous "truths". It is in no way offering an olive branch and I can imagine his family are glad they are NC.

dutchyoriginal · 03/05/2025 10:10

Serenster · 03/05/2025 08:04

Who on this thread, having the power that Charles has would sit back and allow their own flesh and blood to be in a similar situation( history has already showed us what can happen, when RF members don't have adequate protection, but the RF would probably be relieved if history was to repeat itself).

What power does Charles have? Certainly no more than his mother did, who said to RAVEC that while she would lobby for her grandson to continue to have security, she understood it was a decision for the Home Ofgice to make, not her, and she would abide by it.

The same way she had also abided by the Home Office’s decision to withdraw 25/7 security from her other children and family members some 15 years ago. I don’t imagine she personally liked that decision either. But she is a constitutional monarch, and those decisions are made by the government, not her.

(also what a repugnant statement you ended with there)

Absolutely agree with this

Serenster · 03/05/2025 10:18

He says that if he returns for non Royal duties he doesn't get security. Not sure that's the case? He says if he is invited by his family he gets security, if he comes for any other reason he doesn't.

I imagine this probably is true though? The bit he has deliberately not said is “If I return for non-royal duties I get the same deal as my aunts and uncles and cousins”. Which is the way it works (unless in the 28 day notice period RAVEC identify a higher threat level which requires more security).

No-one else in his family other than Charles, Camilla and the Wales family get anything more than that (unless they are on royal duties). If the extended family is with the King, or at one of their residences, they are under the same security blanket as the King then, but not otherwise.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/05/2025 10:19

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 07:57

It is not about being an H&M supporter.
It is about humanity, decency.

Who on this thread, having the power that Charles has would sit back and allow their own flesh and blood to be in a similar situation( history has already showed us what can happen, when RF members don't have adequate protection, but the RF would probably be relieved if history was to repeat itself).

What about the kids? Do they not deserve to come and visit their father' s country of origin? Do their lives and safety not count?

Is one thing to be estranged from family, but this is an entirely different ( darker) scenario.

Would people that are defending this do the same to their flesh and blood( grandchildren included) if being in Charle's s shoes?

By that sentiment, then surely Meghan should find it in her heart to forgive her father and allow her children to meet their maternal grandfather before he dies?

After all, her love language is feeding people and making them feel welcome.

Surely she needs to do the decent thing and extend an olive branch?

SuperTrooper14 · 03/05/2025 10:20

The Royal photographer Arthur Edwards has nailed it:

'When Harry was a full-time royal he lived in the most secure place in the country. It was his choice to give all it up to move to a country where gun crime is rife. The truth is Harry does have security because he has employed an ex-Met officer to protect him — but the Duke has to pay his wages.'

That's the issue in a nutshell. Harry, who no longer pays taxes in the UK, wants UK taxpayers to fund his lifestyle choice.

JSMill · 03/05/2025 10:22

I think it’s unacceptable that the BBC just allowed him to spout a lot of untruths and misleading statements without any challenge. It is the job of news journalists to do exactly that. Anyone watching that interview without knowing anything else about the case would think H and his family were being thrown to the wolves.

Baital · 03/05/2025 10:23

MrsFinkelstein · 03/05/2025 10:19

By that sentiment, then surely Meghan should find it in her heart to forgive her father and allow her children to meet their maternal grandfather before he dies?

After all, her love language is feeding people and making them feel welcome.

Surely she needs to do the decent thing and extend an olive branch?

Yes, it's double standards. H&M can say what they want to the media and the RF should forgive them.

But Thomas Markle is excluded because he spoke to the media.

It isn't a consistent approach...

shuggles · 03/05/2025 10:27

@Viviennemary Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear.

"I don't know how much longer my father has." does not mean "My father is dying soon." It means that he does not know how much longer his father has.

In other words, the standard of communication is so poor that Harry has no idea whether Charles could be around for 2 more years, or 20 years.

Baital · 03/05/2025 10:31

In other words, whatever Harry is told might be sold to the media, so tell him nothing.

That's because of his actions

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