Harry's new interview

[Viviennemary]

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

I love that posters are arguing that a 1,200 year old British institution should be ended because one spoilt prince and his wife can’t have their own way.

The level of ignorance and misinformation is astounding. And the fact that Harry is adding to all the bullshit lies just goes to show why he isn’t trusted to be part of that institution any more.

The crown and the state are inexorably linked. You cannot insist on merching and self promotion while representing your country in a diplomatic capacity.

What he is asking for us Trumpian levels of self centred, reputation damaging special treatment.

He and Trump and Prince Andrew are peas in pod. Entitled, self deluded man babies.

They need money & they want high status, how to make it & achieve otherwise? Inheritance/hand outs will diminish need & let them happily waft in flowers & sunshine in designer clothes.

Agree 100%

Agree but how to they sustain & improve status & financial wealth?

I don’t have strong feeling either way for Harry but he chose to leave and he did properly do one on them.
I had a quick read about the recent case and wow does Harry look terrible .
I find it really strange he is interested im coming back I thought everyone had closed that door .

Yes loosing his grandparents and now his dad and brothers wife with cancer is a reality shake.
He surely just have had some thought process about this when he chose to leave the royal family and the Uk.

My guess is things aren’t as peachy at home and he can’t leave his wife untill he knows he can secure his kids here .

Thats the one reason I’d have never left knowing my wife if ever to be and ex would keep my kids .

Wouldn’t it be something if the vicar at the King’s Sunday service chose the parable of the Prodigal Son? One can imagine Charles, as Head of the Church of England, glancing down the pew and gently reminding William about the Christian principles of forgiveness and grace.

“It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.”

I agree, definitely to do with getting IPP status. When they announced their half in half out plan and revealed their Sussex Royal website there was a link to finances it was removed later but stated at the time.

The provision of armed security by The Metropolitan Police is mandated by the Home Office, a ministerial department of Her Majesty’s Government, responsible for security and law & order. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are classified as internationally protected people which mandates this level of security. As stated on gov.uk, “No breakdown of security costs is available as disclosure of such information could compromise the integrity of these arrangements and affect the security of the individuals protected. It is long established policy not to comment upon the protective security arrangements and their related costs for members of the Royal Family or their residences.” (From Town and Country magazine. 15th Jan 2020).

People immediately questioned how this would be funded and many were not happy with the idea of funding their lifestyle.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-who-will-pay/

Which is lunacy as Chas made it clear that he was going to slim down the RF. This is why he's tried to get Air Miles Andy out of Frogmore and etc.

I'm still slitty eyes about having Andrew and Fergie with them at the church at Easter. It seems like a really odd decision and they can't realise how easy it is to cheapen the whole thing?

Surely that is their problem. They chose this through their own actions. I am now totally convinced that they were leaking stories about other family members and were caught doing it. So when they asked for half in half out the family knew that they couldn’t be trusted to abide by family protocol.

It is so obvious that he is miserable being shut out but he has not learned the lesson. Shut up about your family. Stop selling stories to who ever will pay you. Perhaps learn that no one wants to deal with someone with no discretion, especially not big Hollywood producers. My husband works in film and the NDAs are iron clad. Who would trust him now?

He’s blown up his own life and he not even clever enough to see that.

Yes. And Is it an 'unfortunate accident ' if you get hurt or worse when you're not wearing a seat belt and the driver is drunk?

I don’t see how Harry thinks this is any different to what he father in law is doing? Especially at the beginning. It’s such a bad idea even if intended well

Re: reading the interview transcript again, this comment jumped out at me.

'There have been so many disagreements, differences between me and some of my family. This current situation that has been ongoing for five years with regards to human life and safety is the sticking point. It’s the only thing that’s left.'

Does he seriously thinking this is the only sticking point left as far as his relatives are concerned?! That once he gets the security he wants which I don't think the Supreme Court will approve anyway in his next appeal Charles, William, Kate and Camilla will be all 'Oh goody, now we can be friends again and forget all the horridness of you branding us racists, bullies and unfeeling monsters on a global stage!'

The delusion is real.

what happened in 2016 that he referred to?

Harry may sign that but I doubt his wife will give up the potential of a lifetime of 'revelations' based on her short time in the RF so it would be pointless.

Private security in this country can not carry guns.

@JudgeJ

Didn’t she make a veiled threat in The Cut interview that she had never signed an NDA so could say whatever she wanted.

She is so classless.

@SuperTrooper14 and he said some of his family wouldn't forgive him for Spare . Some?!

The problem is, he chose to leave and not to represent the country on an official basis as a member of the Royal Family. It would not really play well at a time of particularly massive inequalities for the taxpayer to help fund massive security costs for someone who made those choices. It would spark no end of negative publicity about sponging royals who do nothing, or even do harm, but cost a lot. If he can’t afford to pay for his own security, then he has to accept the terms of those who are providing his security (which are that you actually have to stay and act a part if you want the protection). It’s not exactly not his fault he doesn’t feel adequately protected. I do feel sorry for him, though - it’s a toxic situation all round.

That should be everything he claims you said, knowing that you will not be able to contradict his version of events. Remember, recollections vary. If I were a member of the RF I would make sure that I had a recording device in my pocket every time Harry said Hello.

Because it's the truth! He's an elderly man with cancer!

Has anyone noticed also how she harps on about the stress and strain of being a working mum without acknowledging that Harry is a stay at home dad?

All his life he’s fought against the “spare” label and identify. That you don’t matter as much as the other person in your own right. This latest crusade is part of that fight.

She’s relegated him to the same position in their marriage. His role is to quietly keep up the image to get the money and make her look good.

If he was truly fulfilled in his home life he wouldn’t be pursuing this mission which let’s face it is all about status and recognition and validation. He’d be happily saying you know what, nothing is perfect but we got the big things right let’s make the most of it. If life has really been that bad we’d have known about it before she came along.

I’m not saying she’s the only problem, I’m saying that he thought she was the solution and it’s far from it

It's one of those statements designed to shock but the truth is that none of us know how long we have left, whatever our age or health issues. I'm sure his Mother planned on having breakfast on 1st September.

Liz Jones ? Seriously ? I cannot believe anyone is holding her up as the voice of reason !

@Walkaround

I think the problem is that he didn’t really want to leave. Someone had convinced him that he could
move abroad, giving up most of his royal duties and still have all the perks.

Whoever is was (and I have my suspicions) knew nothing about constitutional monarchy or the job of a working royal.

He was sold an idea and he is still clinging to it for dear life. He’s like a toddler who cannot let go of the thing they want that doesn’t exist.

Well he has no evidence that Charles has stood in anyone's way has he ? If he had he would be trumpeting about it by now. He basically said the judges were corrupt in that they were ' leaned on ' by the Royal Household and others who.basically want him to be at risk.

The Queen asked back.in 2020 if she could pay and the answer from RAVEC was quite rightly no.
Harry continues to get protection paid for and so would his family. He just needs to give notice.
What he doesn't get is armed security on permanent standby in case he fancies dropping by. BUT he would get it if the risk level was sufficiently high so as to warrant it. .This is in line with all other Royals except C and C and W and C.
It seems to have worked well for Anne, Edward and Co who were also children of the monarch so why does H think he warrants more? .
And there seems to be some implication in his outburst yesterday that he expects security elsewhere as well.