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Viviennemary · 2025-05-02T16:49:34+00:00

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

wrinklyoldarms · 03/05/2025 09:17

SL2924 · 03/05/2025 09:12

If my life was at risk ever and my parents had any means or say in reducing that risk they would do it in a heartbeat. As would I for my children. No question and no matter of fall outs. Blows my mind that anyone could care so little about their own children. Charles is so privileged and clearly so bitter. What a family. Harry is pretty cringe and clearly lost but hardly surprising when you look at how his father treats him.

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His life is not at risk. He can come to the UK any time- as he has done already for his court cases- and there is security.

He could go to Balmoral or any of the Royal residences without anyone knowing other than immediate family. Private jet, private protection, etc.

No more risk here than when they visit war-torn Africa which fits with their 'charitable image.'

He has security in the UK- just not the type he wants, hence throwing toys out of the pram.

You seem to forget the content of 'Spare' and his appalling behaviour since and before.

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

DeffoNeedANameChange · 03/05/2025 09:18

LizzieSiddal · 03/05/2025 09:09

But what iif you knew that when you spoke to your child, everything you said would be on the front page of every newspaper the next day?

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Then I would be very careful to stick to discussing the weather. But I couldn't go all those years without speaking to them at all. I'd even take a few bad headlines (especially because actually a headline where Charles has tried to meet with Harry, and then Harry's instantly betrayed that meeting, still looks good for the Charles PR machine)

DeffoNeedANameChange · 03/05/2025 09:19

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

I think that's actually mostly just accent.

wrinklyoldarms · 03/05/2025 09:19

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

He only had gravitas because the interviewer lapped up his answers, gave him free rein and didn't ask one probing question.

Had he been grilled by Maitliss, Emma Barnett, or any other feisty journalist the cracks would show.

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 03/05/2025 09:20

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 20:52

William got decent A levels and a degree from a prestigious university, whereas Harry only scraped a B and D, allegedly with 'help'.

I don't think any of the royals are great intellects, William included, and as you say, most of them at least know when to shut up. But Harry is on another level of dimness, and it's obvious which of his parents he got that from.

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I think he has his mother’s tendencies to neuroses without her humour and kindness. This is made much worse by his enormous sense of entitlement from being born into the royal family, by a doting mother and then by a guilty and loving father and grandparents over compensating to try to make up for his bereavement.
Combine this with never being called out for being a wanker because of his wealth and cushioned life opportunities and the result is a deluded and nasty man child.
I already had a low opinion of him but speaking as someone with stage 4 cancer myself I am appalled by his use of his father’s health to try to leverage his own demands.
He still shows no sign of taking any responsibility or having insight into his own conduct which has led to the current situation.
To go on television to try and blackmail your seriously ill father who has always loved you and done his best, even if that best is not perfection in your view, is one of the most disgusting things I have ever watched.
I sincerely hope that nobody in the RF feels compelled to take any notice of this mean, pathetic public tantrum at all.

Serenster · 03/05/2025 09:20

How you misunderstood is unclear.

Just FYI, “pre-cancerous” is a Sussex squad angle. Rhiannon Mills, a royal reporter for Sky news published a report saying Kate had been treated for pre-cancerous cells. People seized on this and asked the Palace for clarification. Palace sources pointed out that the phrase “pre-cancerous cells” had never never used by them, and they would not comment on the Princesses heath. The Sky article was subsequently amended.

Of course, to the Sussex Squad this is proof that Kate is faking her cancer, rather than a journalist with no actual knowledge using the wrong terminology, and changing it once the error was identified.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 09:20

LillyPJ · 03/05/2025 08:22

@GiveMeSpanakopita Re scripted phrases - I agree. The one that stood out for me was instead of saying 'my children' he said 'my father's grandchildren'. He even paused just before he said it, as if he'd suddenly remembered he had to shoe-horn it in.

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Yes. It reminded me of the (now famous) phrase that Alistair Campbell eventually forced a very recalcitrant Queen to say in her unprecedented live broadcast on 5 September 1997, "speaking as a grandmother".

I have zero professional respect for Campbell and nor do the vast majority of my media contacts: he was a bully, a manipulator and completely devoid of anything resembling a moral code. He forced the Queen into doing that broadcast by dangling the spectre of a republican revolution in front of her (it's hard to explain to the young 'uns just how febrile the public mood was in that strange first week of September 1997).

Still, a stopped clock is right twice a day, and Campbell was right to make her to the broadcast and right to add in that phrase, although she never forgave him or Blair for it. It defused the Sun's and Mirror's republican sabre rattling at a stroke.

I think Harry's advisers were trying for something similar. Alas for Harry, the Queen was clever, far-sighted and pragmatic. Harry, on the other hand...

InspectorDefect · 03/05/2025 09:20

AcquadiP · 02/05/2025 23:01

None. He can hire security in the UK but not armed security.

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This. It's all about the perceived extra risk because the police here aren't armed. I believe this is Sparkles main issue. People across the pond, who vehemently defend their rights to bear arms, think the UK is a dangerous place because the police don't. If it was organised pre-booked security, they would, but he wants to just turn up and get that. And he can't pay for armed security for himself because it's not allowed. So IMHO it shows who the person is that's concerned about security. The American one.

MrsLeonFarrell · 03/05/2025 09:21

sualipa · 03/05/2025 09:16

https://archive.ph/kNprW

Liz Jones... very true - ignore this at your peril.

I think this extraordinary, history-making interview is up there with the radio broadcast by Edward, renouncing the throne for Wallis Simpson. But, this time, Harry is clearly declaring his undying love for the Crown.
I believe that his wife Meghan has, with her Netflix show, her peddling of wares, her podcasts talking about her 'busyness' as a ‘Mom’, suddenly thrown his life into sharp relief.

It’s all too shallow, too sunny for him, standing on the sidelines like a waiter, cooing over a brunch party. He wants his life to really matter, as his mother’s did.
You can see the regret etched into his features, and the sorrow. If Charles and William do not reach out to him after this, then they will seem petty and vindictive. And, I believe, the British public won’t look kindly upon them.

I feel for Harry, I really do. His attempt in court to reinstate his official security in the UK, even pay for it himself, was an olive branch. But now I feel he is done fighting. He looks broken.
If the late Queen were still alive, she would be the bigger person and embrace him, her grandson. He is blood, he is family. Charles and William: reconcile with Harry, or I fear the British people will turn against you.

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It was the late Queen who told Harry that he couldn't be half in half out. It was the late Queen who set all the terms of them ceasing to be working royals. Harry does not seem to grasp that his situation is a direct consequence of his own actions. If he wants to reconcile maybe he should start with an apology to his family.

Janiie · 03/05/2025 09:22

'No more risk here than when they visit war-torn Africa which fits with their 'charitable image.' He has security in the UK- just not the type he wants, hence throwing toys out of the pram.'

Yes this is the bit I don't get. He pays for his own security on his faux royal tours so what is the problem with him using his own security in the uk? I doubt anyone would dispute he needs it just not at uk taxpayers expense.

User14March · 03/05/2025 09:22

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

I think this is mainly about money & status, ‘the LOVE of money is the root of all evil’.

How much money does H actually have now, when will he inherit the next tranche & how much does he stand to inherit from PC? High hundreds of millions?

BalloonSlayer · 03/05/2025 09:23

EleanorReally · 03/05/2025 08:43

Charles can't cope with confrontation. It was one of the things that Diana struggled with about him, leading her to dramatic gestures and actions, and also leads to him not taking Harry's calls because he just can't do that sort of thing. And it's easy when you can just get a flunky to be pleasant and friendly but say that you are just not available right now.

Diana was mad though, come on, attention seeking, delusional, and how on earth do we know Charles hate confrontation.

As I said in my post, this was from Private Eye, which clearly has several people on the inside of the RF who give them stories. Of course it is not necessarily true, just someone's opinion who works for them.

EleanorReally · 03/05/2025 09:25

christ Liz Jones!
and Harry, i Am sure, did not apologise for writing the book

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 09:25

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

Agreed, and I think the extensive hostage resistance training all the Royals have had will help too. Takes hundreds of hours of training to get that poker face.

But I also think it's because we the viewer still see him with the patina of senior royalty, which affects our perception of him.

Get AI to run his words through in, say, a Scouse or South Welsh accent (choosing those two at random because they're the accents I and my best friend have, before anyone gets offended) and don't look at 'Harry' on the screen, and I bet you'll interpret it differently.

SanctusInDistress · 03/05/2025 09:26

I love it. Everybody needs a good bit of royal family soap drama from time to time, especially with spiralling cost of living.

[goes to get more popcorn]

thing is, didn’t he have an issue with Megan’s father always giving press interviews and that was the reason for the fallout etc etc?

KilkennyCats · 03/05/2025 09:26

IBelieveinSomething · 02/05/2025 22:15

i had a lot of sympathy for Diana back in the day. I remember at that time having conversation about dodi al fayed. I remember saying she needs that because he is rich and can provide security. Obviously i was wrong about that. But anyone inside the royal family is relatively safe. Once outside it is a bear fight. As we know for diana. Open to anything in the world. Harry has made it worse for himself and family and needs to accept that. But i sympathise for him. For the small boy who lost his mother and for the actual disregard for any sort of human feeling by our ‘king’.

Why is the “little boy who lost his mother” still being used to excuse this man’s nonsense?
William was only slightly older when he also lost his mother.

Genevieva · 03/05/2025 09:27

SuperTrooper14 · 03/05/2025 09:03

Because they'd get it anyway for any Royal-related visit, I've alway thought the crux of his case implied that they want to come to the UK to NOT see the family. Given they need to earn independently now but need their Royal connection still, I suspect that, privately, Harry is being driven by a need to return to the UK to maintain and further the Sussex brand with business opportunities and they can't do that with their current set-up. He spouts about 'history repeating' and 'the establishment cover-up' because he can't say 'we want to come over to broker Meg's jams getting stocked in Fortnum & Mason'.

I'm glad King Charles is holding firm about keeping his distance. The Queen might not have been the best hands-on mother but she did prepare her son to be King and has instilled in him the same determination to protect the constitution. Harry knows that and has always known that and his utter lack of respect for his father's position, evidenced again in this interview, is appalling.

Harry must be desperate though: he knows when Charles is dead and William is King, it's game over. He HAS to reconcile before that happens and he's cast out for good. But I doubt William will even invite him to his coronation.

I think you are probably right, but they could still do those things without private security. There are many more high profile visitors to the U.K. and even U.K. private citizens who manage well pleura private security and without the added benefit of continuous taxpayer funded background monitoring of threats against them (which Harry still has). If the Met felt there was a threat worthy of armed police protection then they would provide it, even in a private visit.

They have visited countries that are not as safe as the U.K. without this protection and Diana’s car accident (a) didn’t happen in the U.K. and (b) didn’t involve an intelligence threat. It was just that - an accident.

This seems mostly to be a case of an irrational feeling of being snubbed )after doing the snubbing). There’s some element of pride and self-esteem that he clearly gets from having taxpayer funded 24hr worldwide protection. It means you come with a professional entourage wherever you go, which allows you to be fast tracked through airports, crowds and traffic jams.

He isn’t capable of it, but the only way for Harry to rescue his situation is to make an unreserved public apology to all the people he has verbally abused these last 5 or 6 years. Family, friends, the British public etc. He then needs to vanish into a private life of good works without glitzy recognition and do it for years, shoring real dedication. Profumo did this. He volunteered at Toynbee Hall. Initially he did cleaning and really hands-on work, but he then used his skills to raise funds for them and, in his own small way redeemed himself. He didn’t do this so that he could return to his old life. That wouldn’t have succeeded in repairing his reputation. His dedication gave him a new esteem in a new context.

DodgersJammyAndOtherwise · 03/05/2025 09:28

GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 07:18

Yes, I mean this is why he (both of them actually) need good PR counsel. The lack of self-awareness in grandly proclaiming that he's forgiven his family and the sheer entitlement in demanding the attention of the Prime Minister, who has far more pressing matters to attend to, both come off really badly.

Plus, the Sussexes are supposed to have a JOINT brand. There's no need for them as individuals; their public interest lies purely in the romantic story of their uniquely powerful love, their brave escape from the Evil Colonialist RF, and their renewed dedication to a 'life of service'. But this week we've been treated to the sight of a petulant, dishevelled prince spouting Russell Brand-esque conspiracy theories whilst his wife giggles and squeals in dopamine-fuelled joy as an unknown podcaster tells her how wonderful she is.

Oh yes, and he basically told the world that Charles probably doesn't have long left - something that anyone who thinks carefully about these things would doubtless have realised, but still, not something that's been publicly acknowledged.

If I was living with an incurable cancer in my dotage, and one of my DC did that to me, that'd be it, as far as taking their calls was concerned.

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Far more eloquently put than my attempt but yes, 100%. The comment about his father was one of the worst things I have ever heard on the television. It really shows an astonishing lack of ...well, everything really. Decency, sense of occasion, propriety. No wonder his father won't take his calls. I would be hiring a hitman!

When MM was first introduced to us Brits. I was staggered at how rude the press were about her. It was absolutely vicious and I was shocked but now I'm wondering if they could see something.

I really wanted them to go off and live a quiet hippy life in the sun with an occasional interview with flowers in their hair which would have made them no target of any sort. Instead, we have this total shitshow of fame hungry, snot nosed bleating and endless attempts at reinventing themselves. Ugh!

Janiie · 03/05/2025 09:28

SisterTeatime · 03/05/2025 09:17

Watching part of the interview I was struck by how good Harry’s media training must have been.

That he’s of well below average intelligence has become increasingly obvious, but he still presents like a person with gravitas and authority. It makes me reflect on the enduring power of class, education and ‘establishment’ in the UK, although not in the way he’d like me to.

Both Harry and Meghan are starting to come across as deranged. You can’t demand reality conform to your wishes. I dread to think what will happen as the money really starts to run out. I can’t blame KC for staying out of contact - what else can he realistically do?

Yes his sense of entitlement is absolutely staggering, matched only by his massive lack of self awareness.

Thomas Markle/Harry. Both exactly the same. Gossiping then expecting reconciliation 🙄.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 09:28

SanctusInDistress · 03/05/2025 09:26

I love it. Everybody needs a good bit of royal family soap drama from time to time, especially with spiralling cost of living.

[goes to get more popcorn]

thing is, didn’t he have an issue with Megan’s father always giving press interviews and that was the reason for the fallout etc etc?

Hey, don’t you understand it’s do as he says, not as he does 🤭🤦🏼‍♀️

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/05/2025 09:28

AgnesX · 03/05/2025 08:02

Not as hurt? I don't know about that. Harry's feelings about being a "spare" must make him feel uncomfortable at best.

Sibling relationships are strong and maybe Harry feels that once Charles dies the whole ballgame will change.

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Sorry typo was ment to say probably MORE hurt/ angry than the king.

Genevieva · 03/05/2025 09:28

Genevieva · 03/05/2025 09:27

I think you are probably right, but they could still do those things without private security. There are many more high profile visitors to the U.K. and even U.K. private citizens who manage well pleura private security and without the added benefit of continuous taxpayer funded background monitoring of threats against them (which Harry still has). If the Met felt there was a threat worthy of armed police protection then they would provide it, even in a private visit.

They have visited countries that are not as safe as the U.K. without this protection and Diana’s car accident (a) didn’t happen in the U.K. and (b) didn’t involve an intelligence threat. It was just that - an accident.

This seems mostly to be a case of an irrational feeling of being snubbed )after doing the snubbing). There’s some element of pride and self-esteem that he clearly gets from having taxpayer funded 24hr worldwide protection. It means you come with a professional entourage wherever you go, which allows you to be fast tracked through airports, crowds and traffic jams.

He isn’t capable of it, but the only way for Harry to rescue his situation is to make an unreserved public apology to all the people he has verbally abused these last 5 or 6 years. Family, friends, the British public etc. He then needs to vanish into a private life of good works without glitzy recognition and do it for years, shoring real dedication. Profumo did this. He volunteered at Toynbee Hall. Initially he did cleaning and really hands-on work, but he then used his skills to raise funds for them and, in his own small way redeemed himself. He didn’t do this so that he could return to his old life. That wouldn’t have succeeded in repairing his reputation. His dedication gave him a new esteem in a new context.

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Apologies - with private security and without Met security, which is what other famous people do.

wrinklyoldarms · 03/05/2025 09:29

InspectorDefect · 03/05/2025 09:20

This. It's all about the perceived extra risk because the police here aren't armed. I believe this is Sparkles main issue. People across the pond, who vehemently defend their rights to bear arms, think the UK is a dangerous place because the police don't. If it was organised pre-booked security, they would, but he wants to just turn up and get that. And he can't pay for armed security for himself because it's not allowed. So IMHO it shows who the person is that's concerned about security. The American one.

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There are many private security companies in the UK that will have armed protection. Not sure why you think it's not allowed.

Former SAS etc work for these companies and he could access them.

Serenster · 03/05/2025 09:29

If the late Queen were still alive, she would be the bigger person and embrace him, her grandson. He is blood, he is family. Charles and William: reconcile with Harry, or I fear the British people will turn against you.

Liz Jones has a poor knowledge of history. The late Queen wasn’t notably seen to embrace her uncle, Edward VIII, let alone reconcile with him. Her first and only visit to him and the Duchess of Windsor was for 15 minutes in the month before he died, as she happened to be in Paris at the time and poor health was well known (i.e. she didn’t travel just to see him).