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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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needmoresheep · 03/05/2025 08:41

Spare 2 is on its way! He has legal bills to pay. He has a vastly inflated opinion of himself, his importance, his version of truth and his reconciliation path.

pilates · 03/05/2025 08:43

NautilusLionfish · 03/05/2025 08:27

I do want this clarified publicly. A national inquiry. Did Charles influence Ravec which in turn influences legal proceedingsand a judge's decision? If he did it has implications beyond Harry.
Imagine if all this brought down the monarchy then all State security withdrawn from each and everyone of them. That would be poetic justice no? But seriously we need an open national inquiry

No we don’t need a national inquiry wasting more taxpayers money over a petulant manchild who couldn’t get his own way. He was offered protection subject to giving relevant notice 28 days I believe. People are sick to death of their bad behaviour and it won’t bring down the monarchy. If anything, it is has the opposite effect.

NewAgeNewMe · 03/05/2025 08:43

The more he complains the less chance of reconciliation, how does he not understand that??

EleanorReally · 03/05/2025 08:43

Charles can't cope with confrontation. It was one of the things that Diana struggled with about him, leading her to dramatic gestures and actions, and also leads to him not taking Harry's calls because he just can't do that sort of thing. And it's easy when you can just get a flunky to be pleasant and friendly but say that you are just not available right now.

Diana was mad though, come on, attention seeking, delusional, and how on earth do we know Charles hate confrontation.

LillyPJ · 03/05/2025 08:43

needmoresheep · 03/05/2025 08:41

Spare 2 is on its way! He has legal bills to pay. He has a vastly inflated opinion of himself, his importance, his version of truth and his reconciliation path.

If there ever was such a book, I wish nobody would buy it.

Lovecatsandwater · 03/05/2025 08:43

Harry is an absolute disgrace. Never seen anything so manipulative.

EleanorReally · 03/05/2025 08:44

at least it has taken away from Nigel Farage being the headlines - although in a couple of papers they share the front page!

upinaballoon · 03/05/2025 08:45

ChevronShoes · 03/05/2025 04:27

Harry doesn’t want security he wants status. He sees security as a proxy for status.

He’s using his kids as a weapon against the RF.

He thinks he was born to be special and hates that he lost his status by flouncing off from the UK for them to go and be rich somewhere else.

H&M have brought out the absolute worst in each other. They are tone deaf, entitled, manipulative bullies.

I don't think Diana was always manipulative but in her interview with MB she said something to the effect that she didn't think that Charles would ever be king and that he might not be suited to it. Sorry, I cannot quote perfectly. She was hurt, she was having her say and she was taking the opportunity to undermine Charles. There are lots of times when people smile in your face while they shoot your kneecaps.
I thought that Harry was doing something of the same when he spoke about not knowing how long Charles has left to live. It sounds quite matter-of-fact and true and perfectly logical. Some people might have said that it was thoughtful or caring to want Charles to see the grandchildren, but it's not unlike the faux concern which is often seen on MN and is a veil for malevolence.
"Ooooh, I don't think he's got long left". Smirking bastardoni.
Edited for punctuation.

MargaretThursday · 03/05/2025 08:47

Serenster · 03/05/2025 08:04

Who on this thread, having the power that Charles has would sit back and allow their own flesh and blood to be in a similar situation( history has already showed us what can happen, when RF members don't have adequate protection, but the RF would probably be relieved if history was to repeat itself).

What power does Charles have? Certainly no more than his mother did, who said to RAVEC that while she would lobby for her grandson to continue to have security, she understood it was a decision for the Home Ofgice to make, not her, and she would abide by it.

The same way she had also abided by the Home Office’s decision to withdraw 25/7 security from her other children and family members some 15 years ago. I don’t imagine she personally liked that decision either. But she is a constitutional monarch, and those decisions are made by the government, not her.

(also what a repugnant statement you ended with there)

It's not just a repugnant statement, it's also clearly rubbish to anyone who was around at the time of Diana's death.

In Diana's last few years of her life she was pretty disliked. Her face sold papers - but people were after the nasty gossip rather than because they adored her. Look at the headlines that had to be pulled on the day she died.
People had sympathy for the RF because of her behaviour and didn't want to see her back. But they loved the gossip of her latest "disgraceful actions".
Her death changed public opinion into suddenly she was a martyr, beloved by all, the People's Princess and the RF were all to blame. Stirred up by Tony Blair who saw an opportunity to place himself at the front as her knight in shining armour (never had done before) and the press who I suspect were feeling guilty and vulnerable.

If she'd lived, her face would probably still sell papers, but she wouldn't have been loved.
I was helping lead a group of teens and I remember one saying "it seems such an ordinary way for her to go." And I think that was part of it. It brought home that if she could die in an accident, so could anyone else.

So the last thing the RF would want is for her son to be martyred in the same way, because currently, in this county, judging by comments in papers, approval rating, things people say offhand, people have sympathy with the RF and think he's being a prat.
They know from Diana, that could easily be flipped on its head if he died in an accident.

What the RF would probably like more than anything is for him to go back to his home. Keep quiet except when he's doing something sensible or sending a polite, not loaded birthday greetings etc. And then, without announcing it to everyone, reach out with an apology. I suspect then they would equally quietly be prepared to start rebuilding a very careful relationship until they were sure he wasn't going note down, twist it and inform the press.
It would take years to repair the relationship, but that way they could get back to some sort of speaking terms.

I've been in the situation where two people felt able to publicly say lies about me, either twisted versions of reality or sometimes completely made up from nothing. The only way I could protect my mental health was by completely blocking them, because otherwise every interaction you are wondering what they're going to make out of that. I get a strong physical reaction to even seeing their names.
If you've not been in that situation you may not be able to understand how it can become necessary to completely block someone.

NotSmallButFunSize · 03/05/2025 08:48

If he was that bothered about reconciliation he would pay for his own bloody security so he felt "safe" to be here and see his family.

Not like he can't fucking afford it!!

DeffoNeedANameChange · 03/05/2025 08:51

BalloonSlayer · 03/05/2025 08:21

I read in Private Eye a few years ago, when Prince Phillip was unwell that for years the Queen had done all the state stuff and Phillip had dealt with all the family stuff. With Phillip being incapacitated, PE claimed she had delegated the family stuff to Charles, but this was really not working because Charles can't cope with confrontation. It was one of the things that Diana struggled with about him, leading her to dramatic gestures and actions, and also leads to him not taking Harry's calls because he just can't do that sort of thing. And it's easy when you can just get a flunky to be pleasant and friendly but say that you are just not available right now.

If this is true, she'd have been wiser to delegate "family stuff" to Anne. Harry's always got on well with Zara - this feels like the most likely path to reconciliation.

(Although, as an oldest daughter myself, I'm a bit tired of dealing with all the family stuff! In my family, though, I can just put up with the whiniest ones a few times a year then bitch about them behind their backs, as is the proper British way, and I don't have to worry that it's going to end up on netflix/in court!)

MyKingdomForACat · 03/05/2025 08:51

He was determined to marry Meghan. No doubt the RF told him their thoughts and he chose to ignore them. The couple then had a spectacularly beautiful wedding that was enjoyed by millions and seen as Harry’s happy ever after. Once Meghan realised life inside the Royal Family wasn’t going to be all about her; in fact she came way down in the pecking order, she imagined it must be because she’s mixed race. That kick started the whole Megxit and then the estrangement from Harry’s family. She was determined to do it her way and now she has. Harry seems to have got caught in the crossfire and, desperate not to have his family say “we told you so” he continues to blame them for all the ills in his life and knowing his interview will be poured over and scrutinised endlessly he can’t resist taking a dig at his father. What a bitter man his wife has made him

BunnyLake · 03/05/2025 08:57

needmoresheep · 03/05/2025 08:41

Spare 2 is on its way! He has legal bills to pay. He has a vastly inflated opinion of himself, his importance, his version of truth and his reconciliation path.

And not an ounce of self reflection. I can hardly believe this is a forty year old married father of two. He is a toddler wearing adult clothes. Meghan can’t possibly find him attractive.

BobbleHatsRule · 03/05/2025 08:58

The 'Royal household' (grey suited string pullers? KC or William?) were pissed at H&M not doing as instructed and taught them a lesson by lowering their security risk. H&M didn't respond to that manipulation in the way they expected and so security pulled even more. H&M upped and left.

He obviously feels that security was used to bring him into line and has chosen not to toe the line. His family have washed their hands of him.

The RF are pretty disgusting supporting a paedophile, exhalting an adulterer and being disingenuous in claiming cancer rather than the read truth of pre cancerous...to woo public sympathy. Pre cancerous is still terrifying so why she had to inflate it is beyond me. (Perhaps her husband and her stopping any pretence at 'work' would t sit so well?) The sycophantic public lap it up and so the RF trudged on exploiting the public...let them eat cake....

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 08:59

I wonder if he still sees Beatrice and Eugenie? Perhaps they could broker peace between Harry and the wider family.

I think when everyone turns against you then maybe you are the problem.

andjustwhatfreshhellisthis · 03/05/2025 08:59

oh god, when will this odious man shut the hell up? it's always 'poor me' stories isn't it? He's never done anything wrong has he...never washed his dirty laundry via Ophra interview, never written a crappy little book, never exposed all in a Netflix series... oh hang on....

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 09:00

BobbleHatsRule · 03/05/2025 08:58

The 'Royal household' (grey suited string pullers? KC or William?) were pissed at H&M not doing as instructed and taught them a lesson by lowering their security risk. H&M didn't respond to that manipulation in the way they expected and so security pulled even more. H&M upped and left.

He obviously feels that security was used to bring him into line and has chosen not to toe the line. His family have washed their hands of him.

The RF are pretty disgusting supporting a paedophile, exhalting an adulterer and being disingenuous in claiming cancer rather than the read truth of pre cancerous...to woo public sympathy. Pre cancerous is still terrifying so why she had to inflate it is beyond me. (Perhaps her husband and her stopping any pretence at 'work' would t sit so well?) The sycophantic public lap it up and so the RF trudged on exploiting the public...let them eat cake....

How did you get some intimate knowledge of Catherine’s health?

LizzieSiddal · 03/05/2025 09:00

If Charles decided to see his son, he’d be absolutely terrified to say anything about anything he’d done/planned to do, including anything to do with William or Kate due to a fear it would end up in Harry’s next book. It’s never ever going to happen.

needmoresheep · 03/05/2025 09:01

A forty year old who has been ‘serving the public for 35 years’. He has no idea!

Yes, he has provided entertainment for some years.

We are going to have years of him whinging and whining

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 09:01

BobbleHatsRule · 03/05/2025 08:58

The 'Royal household' (grey suited string pullers? KC or William?) were pissed at H&M not doing as instructed and taught them a lesson by lowering their security risk. H&M didn't respond to that manipulation in the way they expected and so security pulled even more. H&M upped and left.

He obviously feels that security was used to bring him into line and has chosen not to toe the line. His family have washed their hands of him.

The RF are pretty disgusting supporting a paedophile, exhalting an adulterer and being disingenuous in claiming cancer rather than the read truth of pre cancerous...to woo public sympathy. Pre cancerous is still terrifying so why she had to inflate it is beyond me. (Perhaps her husband and her stopping any pretence at 'work' would t sit so well?) The sycophantic public lap it up and so the RF trudged on exploiting the public...let them eat cake....

Complain Good Morning GIF by South Park

Cry me a river

NautilusLionfish · 03/05/2025 09:01

flapjackfairy · 03/05/2025 08:36

oh don't talk nonsense. Harry has zero evidence of any interference. He wouldn't be able to keep his gob shut if he had and it would've all poured out in that interview yesterday .
He has besmiched the judicial system and questioned the integrity of the judges concerned.publicly and ranted like a madman about his own family.
He has insulted his country of birth and managed to alienate everyone within his orbit and now he wants the PM or Daddy to go against the laws and institutions of the land because he didn't get the answer he wanted.

He doesn't want Charles to intervene. He wants him to step aside and let the experts do their jobs

Mylovelygreendress · 03/05/2025 09:02

pilates · 03/05/2025 08:43

No we don’t need a national inquiry wasting more taxpayers money over a petulant manchild who couldn’t get his own way. He was offered protection subject to giving relevant notice 28 days I believe. People are sick to death of their bad behaviour and it won’t bring down the monarchy. If anything, it is has the opposite effect.

Agree .
And all those saying he ( eventually) offered to pay for his own armed protection, apart from the fact that Met Police cannot be bought , what are they supposed to do the rest of their time ? Sit around in case the Sussexes decide to pop over ?
Clearly he wants IPP status which he isn’t going to get!

DeffoNeedANameChange · 03/05/2025 09:02

MyKingdomForACat · 03/05/2025 08:51

He was determined to marry Meghan. No doubt the RF told him their thoughts and he chose to ignore them. The couple then had a spectacularly beautiful wedding that was enjoyed by millions and seen as Harry’s happy ever after. Once Meghan realised life inside the Royal Family wasn’t going to be all about her; in fact she came way down in the pecking order, she imagined it must be because she’s mixed race. That kick started the whole Megxit and then the estrangement from Harry’s family. She was determined to do it her way and now she has. Harry seems to have got caught in the crossfire and, desperate not to have his family say “we told you so” he continues to blame them for all the ills in his life and knowing his interview will be poured over and scrutinised endlessly he can’t resist taking a dig at his father. What a bitter man his wife has made him

This is such a misogynistic trope, though. Evil witch destroys Prince Charming.

Of all the bad things that have happened in Harry's life, I don't think that marrying Meghan is the worst. I think she's given him permission to drop that cheeky chappy persona that we all loved, but I think was always a mask.

His new approach hasn't won him any fans (!) but I do hope it might in some way bring him some genuine inner peace. I hope they are happy together, and that we only get to see the worst bits (ie the funerals and court cases). And I hope he has an actual qualified counsellor, not just TV interviewers.

BunnyLake · 03/05/2025 09:03

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/05/2025 09:00

How did you get some intimate knowledge of Catherine’s health?

That poster seems to have an over active imagination.

Uricon2 · 03/05/2025 09:03

He is not being refused protection in the UK and never has been. The statement is full of not so veiled accusations as to who's behind him not getting armed security free on tap, ostensibly the Royal Household but the implication is that its Charles, at least that's how I read it, why else would he be so "horrified" at what he's "discovered". The fact that Harry says it doesn't make it true, though.

In my opinion this is all about getting IPP status and has been since the beginning, nothing much to do with the UK at all. The level of security he is currently paying for in the US is very, very costly and I think he knows he can't afford it long term, long term being potentially decades. It may well also be tied up in his mind with status, "because William".

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