Harry's new interview

[Viviennemary]

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

I read in Private Eye a few years ago, when Prince Phillip was unwell that for years the Queen had done all the state stuff and Phillip had dealt with all the family stuff. With Phillip being incapacitated, PE claimed she had delegated the family stuff to Charles, but this was really not working because Charles can't cope with confrontation. It was one of the things that Diana struggled with about him, leading her to dramatic gestures and actions, and also leads to him not taking Harry's calls because he just can't do that sort of thing. And it's easy when you can just get a flunky to be pleasant and friendly but say that you are just not available right now.

Didn’t Harry actually say that his father didn’t talk to him about “the security stuff” rather than they weren’t on speaking terms at all?
No. He said Charles does speak to him because of this security stuff. Do not distort what he said whether you dislike him or not.

You haven’t answered why you don’t think Harry will be safe here, given that he will, in fact, be given security if he gives notice. Which is a reasonable request given that it takes time to organise said security, since Special Protection have other things to do besides waiting around for Harry to rock up

Most importantly, this is Henry's s country and he is entitled to come to visit with his children whenever he wants

Of course he can visit and he would be provided with security, so why hasn't he? I'm sure his friends in the UK would love to meet his children , as would his father.

@GiveMeSpanakopita Re scripted phrases - I agree. The one that stood out for me was instead of saying 'my children' he said 'my father's grandchildren'. He even paused just before he said it, as if he'd suddenly remembered he had to shoe-horn it in.

So I was a bit confused but I think after reading a lot that if he comes over in an official capacity or gives 28 days notice he will have full protection. What he doesn’t have is the ability to fly in tomorrow and get full protection. Is this right? Can he come on a pre arranged private visit and stay in a hotel and get full protection as long as 28 days notice is given?

Lost the post I meant to quote but Harry is really not going to bring down the monarchy. William and Kate look much better in comparison to Harry's continual dramas and loss of credibility. They may not do a lot but they also don't go around publicly moaning about how unfair their lives are. They may very well be as entitled and petulant as Harry for all we know, but they're clever enough not to show it. In a way, despite the unwelcome press attention and dramas, Harry has solidified William's position.

Potentially, yes. It would still depend on a risk assessment as to the level he would get, I presume

I’m not a royalist. A constitutional monarchist. I’d be happy for a republic if it could be properly thought out. The problem for Harry is he actually likes being royal and can’t understand that it’s his own behaviour that has alienated his family and the U.K.

That was my understanding of it. He’ll have protection if he gives adequate notice.

I do want this clarified publicly. A national inquiry. Did Charles influence Ravec which in turn influences legal proceedingsand a judge's decision? If he did it has implications beyond Harry.
Imagine if all this brought down the monarchy then all State security withdrawn from each and everyone of them. That would be poetic justice no? But seriously we need an open national inquiry

Can people not grasp the fact that Harry IS entitled to security for himself and his family if they deign to grace us with their presence?
No one is denying him the security he needs as long as he gives notice of his intention to visit and then a risk assessment of the current threat level will be done and the appropriate level.of security provided free and gratis.
Most people, Harry and the press included seem too thick to grasp this truth. Harry is implying he gets no security at all. And people are frothing at the mouth over yet another half truth and lie spun by Harry and his anti establishment paranoia.

Come on Meg's what do you say

Spare us from her opinion please.

Hahahaha! Harry’s whinging isn’t going to bring down the monarchy 🤣

William and Catherine are too popular in their own right. Today’s newspapers are tomorrow’s chip paper and all that…

The evidence indicates that the Queen intervened to ask if they could pay for Harry to have ongoing protection and that this was refused. If they influenced Ravec at all it was in Harry's favour.

oh don't talk nonsense. Harry has zero evidence of any interference. He wouldn't be able to keep his gob shut if he had and it would've all poured out in that interview yesterday .
He has besmiched the judicial system and questioned the integrity of the judges concerned.publicly and ranted like a madman about his own family.
He has insulted his country of birth and managed to alienate everyone within his orbit and now he wants the PM or Daddy to go against the laws and institutions of the land because he didn't get the answer he wanted.

Prince William seems less than impressed with Harry's behaviour, maybe Harry wants to see his Father, maybe he wants to get back in before William takes the throne. I can't see Harry being welcomed back by his brother.

Well if she could find a spare £12 million quid down the back of the sofa to pay for Andrew's problem to go away (it didn't) then doing the same for her beloved grandson wouldn't go amiss.

By virtue of who he is, is also entitled to life- long security which is not a Royal perk.

@LipglossAlly apologies as I forgot to add that is not the case as seen by the downgrading of security for the Yorks, Prince Edward and Princess Anne while their mother was still Queen, unless they were on official royal duties ie representing the crown.

Harry will get security but he has to give notice. That’s the bit he doesn’t like. He needs to stop telling porkies unless he really doesn’t understand the position.

edit: spelling

I agree with this.

The grey rocking and icing out of Harry has really helped the profile of the RF especially William and Catherine. Harry has scored a spectacular own goal.

Harry is an absolute disgrace. In total agreement. This is an incredibly manipulative entitled ignorant and indeed malicious act.

Doing the interview was a smart move. Should another "unfortunate accident" ever happen, it will be on the record that Harry fought tooth and nails to be provided with security( unlike what happened with Diana, they won't be able to spin it as "oh but she did not want Royal security").

Why the quotes for “unfortunate accident”? Do you think it wasn’t unfortunate, or it wasn’t an accident?

As mentioned in the interview, the fact that he is not a working royal is irrelevant.

Do you think Andrew should have full-time security then, as a child of the monarch, non-working royal and ex-military who fought in a war? And his daughters? At least they live here, where the UK police have jurisdiction.

Former PMs (yes lettuce Liz Truss included) despite having served for X years are still entitled to life long security. He did not choose this position and he should be entitled to security.

Former PMs have made decisions that affect millions of people, for better or worse. They are also privy to state secrets and intelligence that would, in the wrong hands, imperil the nation. Keeping them safe is about what’s best for the country. This is not the case for Harry. Plus ex PMs do not have the option of staying in a royal residence, with the built-in security that it provides.

I simply believe that his family do not care whether he lives or dies( his innocent kids included).

QE2 did actually write a letter asking for Harry to be kept safe, if you remember. But she and now Charles quite rightly have no say in the security that he receives at our expense, it’s a governmental decision. The monarch does not get to choose how our money is spent. Who knows if any of them want him dead (I doubt it) but if they did it would be irrelevant.

She asked to pay and RAVEC refused the offer! So she did do the same.

I'm not sure what level of security Harry wants , each visit would be risk assessed and if it was deemed necessary I'm sure he would be provided with armed guards , tanks and barbed wire around him .
If the risk was deemed low then it must be better and less intrusive to have a discreet officer walking nearby.

Catherine has been seen on a few occasions, walking down the high street with discreet security.