Harry's new interview

[Viviennemary]

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

why is an american woman interviewing him?

The latest 2 page statement from Harry is disturbing in that he appears to have learned nothing except how to continue spinning lies - though I guess his "devastation" at learning who was "responsible" might give him material for another book

Even those born into a position where they theoretically need protection only get protection when there is evidence it is needed.

That's why Beatrice and Eugenie lost theirs in 2011 when at the time they were 5th and 6th in line to the throne.

It's why none of the late Queen's children got/get security when they weren't on active royal duties once it was decided by those looking at evidence that they didn't need it.

I mean that statement must have gone through his lawyers….but yikes

Because that is not how the provision of security works.

Only a very small number of people are guaranteed security because of 'who they are'. Harry is not among that group. This was outlined in court documents. He is in the group whose security is assessed on a case by case basis, and protection will be provided as deemed necessary.

Being born a prince does not guarantee lifetime security. Only the King, Queen and Prince and Princess of Wales are guaranteed security.

You can't help but wonder on the role that stress played, given that it was also a couple of years after the Queen died that they got ill.

It's becoming like a tragedy that Shakespeare didn't write.
King Lear all over again.
The 'thankless child'.

Let me get this right,you’re blaming Harry for Kate and Charles getting CA. Risible
Disputed Accusation in a book don’t cause cancer

He’s in the us I think (not that they’re aren’t British people there - but assume that’s one of their us correspondanta)

I also think, obviously, that he is a stupid twat, putting in a book his ‘kill’ rate and that makes him a target more than anything else. But he was born as a son of a current monarch makes him a target as well. He is an absolute gob shite obviously. And his book, which i never read, absolutely trashed his family. I think that he is seriously damaged for a number of reasons. His mother’s death, his upbringing, his stupidity. Him being the monarchs son needs to be a reason for him getting security. Possibly at a level below normal since he is living in California. But maybe just in uk. That particular ‘issue’ is definitely not his own fault.

Him being the monarchs son needs to be a reason for him getting security.

Why does it 'need to be'?

The previous monarch's children, other than Charles, did not automatically get security either.

Why do you believe RAVEC, who are very highly regarded, have got this all wrong?

whats the reference about Meghan not getting security when she joined the family??

That was not what I was commenting on. My point was theological.

I've actually been wondering this exact same thing for a while. They have the lifestyle of people with hundreds of millions in the bank but they don't actually have that level of wealth.

I've been wondering if they've been assuming that once a few years have passed and temperatures have cooled, they could "graciously" deign to return to the UK to live under the wealth umbrella of the royal family with Harry perhaps doing some royal duties again. I'm sure Meghan would dislike it but if her business ventures come to nothing I'm sure she would grit her teeth and do it - she likes a nice lifestyle and she's a realist if nothing else.

However, any back-up plans they may have had about "magnanimously" coming back to the UK are definitely dwindling.

Doing the interview was a smart move. Should another "unfortunate accident" ever happen, it will be on the record that Harry fought tooth and nails to be provided with security( unlike what happened with Diana, they won't be able to spin it as "oh but she did not want Royal security").

As mentioned in the interview, the fact that he is not a working royal is irrelevant.
Former PMs (yes lettuce Liz Truss included) despite having served for X years are still entitled to life long security. He did not choose this position and he should be entitled to security.
I simply believe that his family do not care whether he lives or dies( his innocent kids included).
I wish he can finally come to terms with this realisation and enjoy the rest of his life with the love of his life and his beautiful children.
I wish him and Meghan well and hope they can finally close this chapter and live a happy life.

I think his stupid book, talking about killing Taliban and keeping a score of his kills, is so unprofessional and put the whole of the British military in the firing line, so thanks for that Harry.

The reason given for Charles not forcing Andrew out f his home was because he wanted Sarah to have some stability while she was recovering from breast cancer and melanoma.
I am sure A will have to move in time, as he can't afford to pay for the upkeep, but Charles was considering S.

I'm not sure what is more silly. The tired old 'he didn't choose to be royal' non argument, or comparing the CHIMPO to a former PM.

I think the disgrace is that he and his wife and children do not have security, the question surely is why ?

Harry is very unwell mentally. He needs to keep his mouth shut and build bridges behind the media. He needs to realize his mistakes and stop with any more gossip. Until he grows up and realizes that he won't be taken back. Never air your dirty laundry....

There is a subtext to this which is very clear.

• in the interview he says he wants reconciliation. This is the first time they have said that. I think it’s clear that without the Royal glow their financial future is uncertain.
• In which case he can then use this case to write Spare 2 about the greater injustices done to him. So if I am not allowed in I will do more damage.
• in the written statement he suggests subtly they would have continued to be royals abroad had the security been kept and could have served the UK. This is a return to the line in their departure statement where they wanted to collaborate with the Queen. In the documentary they talk about the freedom flight and how wonderful California is away from toxic Britain. But now suddenly he wants reconciliation and really wanted to serve the Queen/King and country.
• the mention in the interview of ‘other countries’. I think it’s fairly obvious that the RF didn’t pick up the phone and ask others not to protect him. What he lost was tax payer funded security in Canada a Commonwealth country. I suspect this is what he’s alluding to and the loss of IPP status. What he’s saying is that if Britain doesn’t consider me a VVVVIP then others won’t and waaaaahhh, but I am so important.

I said it before. This is all for optics. They have been trashed in the press. This is to regain sympathy, to go back to the ‘evil RF and poor H&M’ strategy of the Oprah interview and an attempt to keep HIM relevant when his wife has been hogging the limelight.

They live in California, so maybe take it up with the relevant authorities there.

However, they are provided with appropriate security on their visits to Britain.

He can pay for his own security. It's within his means.
He chose not to be a working Royal. He chose to move to the US.
You can't cherry pick which perks of the RF you want when you are no longer part of it.

The laugh is he moved to have privacy. What a joke.
Since then all he's done is court publicity and put himself and family in the spotlight, unfavourably.

he wants to have his cake and eat it
he wants to come over to uk when it suits him and he wants optimum security

It has never been clearer the man just cannot comprehend facts and is a uncontrollable personality disorder - they must be thanking their lucky stars he’s stuck in California

I always thought he left of his own accord but I’m starting to think he was cleverly managed out like a turkey voting for Christmas

Dont let the door hit you on the way out 👍