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Prince William not in black at Pope's funeral

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Yellowdresses · 26/04/2025 19:58

I think William made a big mistake in not wearing a black suit to the Pope's funeral.
I think it was a sign of disrespect, particularly as he's going to head of the Church of England.

I know the invite said dark suits for men, but everyone else - except Trump of course! - knew that black was expected, and it's not as if he doesn't have a black suit.

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TulaOfDarkWater · 27/04/2025 00:48

Yellowdresses · 27/04/2025 00:15

The preferance of Catholics should have been taken into account as it was the funeral of the Pope, and as I said above, William was there representing the people of the UK, which includes millions of Catholics. I don't expect people of other religions to particularly care, but I'm surprised people think it's OK to abuse someone who does care.

It's relevant that William is the heir to the head of the Church of England as to me that means he should have been particularly respectful - King Charles and Pope Francis have both done a lot of work to improve relations between the two Churches, to not wear black makes it seem that William wasn't bothered to follow etiquette for this event, and following the right etiquette at State events is what I expect from the Royal family.

This has been covered internationally in the media, the stories focus on Trump but mentioning that Prince Willian didn't wear black either, I don't think I'm a crazy/sad Catholic for bringing this up.

Can you explain why the Vatican didn’t specify black suits in the dress code then? Why did they deliberately say dark suits as opposed to black? Are they not Catholic enough for you? You really think the preference of SOME catholics should override the direct request from the Vatican itself? Really? If you think you know better, I really suggest you familiarise yourself with the sin of pride.

I’m Catholic and think he was dressed perfectly respectfully and in line with the VATICAN’S dress code. By the way can I ask who appointed you the spokesperson for all Catholics? You definitely don’t speak for me or any other Catholic I know. We watched the funeral in quiet contemplation and reflection, not judging people’s fashion choices.

To be honest OP, as a Catholic do you think this is a thread that reflects Christian values? Even if he made a fashion faux pas (which I don’t think he did), do you think this is an appropriate thread in line with Jesus’ teachings? Do you think Jesus would have started a thread slating a man for wearing a navy suit? Even if you think he was in the wrong suit, he’s not Catholic so shouldn’t you be giving him the benefit of the doubt that maybe it was a genuine mistake or he was just badly advised? Do you really think you’re loving your neighbour here with this thread? As Catholics, shouldn’t we be showing kindness, tolerance, understanding and forgiveness? Do you really think you’re demonstrating Christ like values here?

Considering the significance of today is this really what you’re choosing to focus on? Is Prince William’s choice of suit really what’s important today? With everything going on in the world, is this really what makes you feel let down?

No wonder Catholic’s have a bad reputation and get slated if this is what they choose to focus on, more bothered about appearances and what the international media is saying rather than what’s actually important. Ironically this line of thinking is exactly why abuse perpetrated by those within the church was covered up, people more concerned with keeping up appearances than what is actually morally right.

It’s not enough to just proclaim to be a follower of Christ, you have to live it through your thoughts and actions.

Honestly, do better.

Vitrolinsanity · 27/04/2025 00:54

But I’m saying as a UK catholic, I’m not let down. I thought William looked super smart and frankly, you’re spoiling for a fight. I find that on this particular day, more offending. The Pope was being laid to rest in a profoundly moving and deeply personal way that reflected his personal preference. There’s incredibly moving photos of a nun weeping. He wanted to be buried in the ground. The congregation included people from the walks of life he touched, including prisoners.

Big picture.

AthWat · 27/04/2025 00:54

Christ on a fucking bike.

Find something that matters to worry about, for fuck's sake.

DreamTheMoors · 27/04/2025 00:59

It just occurred to me that I heard recently that Trump has lost a considerable amount of weight.
I can’t tell the difference, but perhaps those closest to him can.
I know he owns a black suit - he wore it during his disastrous, bullying Oval Office meeting with President Zelenskyy.
But maybe the black suit is too big now and he had to wear the blue suit because it fit.
Or maybe he wanted to stand out because he was seated so far back.
Yeah - that’s it. That’s Donald.

EsmaCannonball · 27/04/2025 01:03

Wait till you find out what Henry VIII did. It was so much worse.

Viviennemary · 27/04/2025 01:05

It didn't say black suits it said dark. Can't see the problem.

Mookie81 · 27/04/2025 01:08

Yellowdresses · 26/04/2025 23:34

No issue with Zelensky as he wore black, and he wears military style clothes as his country is at war. If he was wearing khaki, as he usually does, that would have been disrespectful.

He didn't even wear a tie, he was the most disrespectfully dressed person there. Im fed up of his 'I don't need to dress in a suit' shtick he does all the time.

MrsEverest · 27/04/2025 01:08

I didn’t notice so it must be pretty dark. I’m a bit surprised to be honest but it won’t be a protocol breach, he’s got advisors who know all the ins and outs of this.

BemusedAmerican · 27/04/2025 01:11

I am a non-practicing RC. The men in my family always wear dark blue or dark grey to a funeral. The wimen wear dresses or pants in dark colors.

When my mother died, we held the wake in a local funeral home. The room next door to us had a wake filled with mourners in black. The men were in black suits. The women were all in black dresses and scarves. It made us and our guests very nervous as at that time there was a lot of organized crime in the news. We still talk about how uncomfortable we were whenever we stepped out of our parlor.

BTW, William looked great!

EconomyClassRockstar · 27/04/2025 01:14

My favourite part was the list of World Leaders, Family of and Monarchs that attended. William didn't even get listed as a plus one. Ouch Catholic Church! 😂

LadyWiddiothethird · 27/04/2025 01:14

Prince William followed the dress code………dark suit!

What an idiotic thing to get worked up about.I am a Catholic,he was dressed appropriately.

Give your head a wobble OP.

DreamTheMoors · 27/04/2025 01:20

Mookie81 · 27/04/2025 01:08

He didn't even wear a tie, he was the most disrespectfully dressed person there. Im fed up of his 'I don't need to dress in a suit' shtick he does all the time.

HIS COUNTRY IS AT WAR.

And as long as they are AT WAR, President Zelenskyy will continue to dress as he sees appropriate. He has made that clear multiple times and the media has reported it multiple times.
This is the second time I’ve posted this on this thread.

Zelenskyy looked perfectly respectable considering Ukraine is under attack by Russia.

You have a think about that - a nice long one.

My2cents1975 · 27/04/2025 01:21

Yellowdresses · 27/04/2025 00:43

The dress code said dark suits, but convention and protocol is for black suits. All the other men in suits - with the exemption of Trump, the King of Jordan and Trump (according to the New York Times) - wore black. Saying 'But the dress code said dark suits' isn't a gotcha, William got it wrong

UK Catholics do have a right to feel let down, even though PPs are telling me that I'm being ridiculous, and some are still cracking jokes about it.

@Yellowdresses should reflect on Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

You claimed that “All the other men in suits - with the exemption of Trump, the King of Jordan and Trump (according to the New York Times) - wore black”

You are straight up lying.

The wide photo on the news wires shows that several other male dignitaries wore navy suits including former US President Joe Biden and UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres and Inda's President Droupadi Murmu.

NattyTurtle59 · 27/04/2025 01:28

Honestly, what boring lives do people lead that this sort of thing needs a threat started about it? Who actually cares!!

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 27/04/2025 01:37

I think William made a big mistake in not wearing a black suit to the Pope's funeral. I think it was a sign of disrespect, particularly as he's going to head of the Church of England.

I suggest you read up on the establishment of the Church of England.

MatLeave · 27/04/2025 01:39

He wore a dark suit, showed up to pay his respects and behaved impeccably. End of discussion!

GoYonSanNiIchi · 27/04/2025 01:44

DreamTheMoors · 27/04/2025 01:20

HIS COUNTRY IS AT WAR.

And as long as they are AT WAR, President Zelenskyy will continue to dress as he sees appropriate. He has made that clear multiple times and the media has reported it multiple times.
This is the second time I’ve posted this on this thread.

Zelenskyy looked perfectly respectable considering Ukraine is under attack by Russia.

You have a think about that - a nice long one.

His country is at war, so he is wearing military style clothing 24/7, so he can what; fight the Russians when they jump out from under a sofa in the oval office or from behind the tabernacle at the pope's funeral?

It is a gimmick so, whatever, but he is maintaining that image at the expense of the dignity of events like the funeral and it is fine to call it out.

wordler · 27/04/2025 01:45

FFS OP.

The one thing the UK senior royals do on official occasions is respect and adhere to protocol. They don't follow their own preferences. They don't go rogue. They don't rock the boat in international diplomatic situations. Anyone officially representing the monarch on the world stage in front of the world press follow the script and the protocol to the letter.

If William was supposed to be in black and ONLY in black he would have been.

LovePeriodProperty · 27/04/2025 01:50

William followed the dress code.
Thats the respectful thing to do.
Im surprised OP you’ve picked up on this.

What about all the women with no head coverings. ?

Cursula · 27/04/2025 01:54

@Yellowdresses the correct dress at a funeral is a dark suit, white shirt and black tie for men, and dark clothing for women. Unless the deceased has requested otherwise. I am a (lapsed) Catholic if that matters, and every funeral I have attended has either followed the above, or has been ‘bright colours only’ which always ends up with a mixture of both as some people, understandably, feel uncomfortable deviating. I don’t know anyone who owns a black suit (unless they are a waiter or butler) and a dark grey or navy is perfectly acceptable.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 27/04/2025 02:01

Yellowdresses · 27/04/2025 00:43

The dress code said dark suits, but convention and protocol is for black suits. All the other men in suits - with the exemption of Trump, the King of Jordan and Trump (according to the New York Times) - wore black. Saying 'But the dress code said dark suits' isn't a gotcha, William got it wrong

UK Catholics do have a right to feel let down, even though PPs are telling me that I'm being ridiculous, and some are still cracking jokes about it.

So you are feeling let down by the Vatican for not stipulating visiting dignitaries wear black suits?

blueleavesgreensky · 27/04/2025 02:42

Reetpetitenot · 26/04/2025 20:53

William was totally appropriately dressed. You'll have to go and scrabble around desperately for something else to have a pop at him about.

His awful facial hair then. Some men can not carry off facial hair. He is one. He looks scruffy and unkempt.

getahhtmapub · 27/04/2025 02:51

If there is anyone who would be well versed and well advised on the etiquette of dress codes it’s going to be the UK royal family main characters.
William didn’t just throw any old suit into a bag to go to the popes funeral FGS! There are butlers and courtiers whose role it is to provide advice and also do the packing.
I doubt very much they said ‘sir you need a black suit and tie’ and he said ‘nah fuck it Jeeves, navy, that will get them all really mad’.

StevesLavaChicken · 27/04/2025 03:22

He’s not Catholic. Why would he wear black? Church of England is not Catholic.

Blackpuddings · 27/04/2025 03:31

I read on a news outlet that William being C of E & not catholic was displaying this affiliation by wearing a dark navy suit, with the black tie (to show a modern interpretation while confirming to mark of respect etc) Esp as he apparently is pretty secular (unlike his dad). Trump’s was much brighter blue, tie included & he got out & chewed gum & scrolled on his phone during the service. Zero respect.

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