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Lazycatsitsonthemat · 2025-04-20T21:29:44+00:00

I am really perplexed about why SF attends all Royal events since the death of the Queen when Andrew is present. She behaves like his wife but she isn’t his wife. What on earth is going on? I cannot think of another situation like this where an ex wife lives with her ex husband and attends all public events with him as though they are still married. It’s bizarre.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 21/04/2025 17:47

And God knows why William's getting a bashing because his one-time aunt went to mass and he didn't. He's not the heir to throne, he's a very naughty boy!

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/04/2025 17:56

MightAsWellBeGretel · 21/04/2025 17:45

One of the reasons he tired of Ann and killed her off was because of her Lutheran tendencies, which he deemed heretic.

None of his beliefs changed, he simply broke with Rome as they would not grant him a divorce (since they'd already granted him a Papal Bull to marry his sister in law in the first place and her nephew was an emperor), pronounced himself Head of State and kept the money he would would have sent to Rome.

What relevance this has to Sarah Ferguson attending a family mass, I don't know.

What a fuss over nothing, though.

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I know!

Thank goodness no one gets burned at the stake or fined for not attending (the right) church in the UK any more.

I subscribe to Elizabeth’s I don’t philosophy of having “no desire to make windows into men's souls”. So long as no one is hurting me I don’t care what others believe or how they practise their faith (or lack of).

Ohpleeeease · 21/04/2025 18:00

smilesy · 21/04/2025 17:26

Again, why though? Why is it “surprising” and “bad optics” when there is plenty of precedent?

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Possibly it isn’t.

I don’t think we can always compare the past with the present though.

My feeling is that the RF is in a more fragile state at the moment for a number of reasons, and anything that demonstrates cohesion is helpful.

I’m not bashing W, far from it, I applaud his commitment to his family because actually in terms of the preservation of the monarchy his most important job is to guarantee the next generation.

But I think there are some set pieces that it would be good to observe as things stand. And I’m entirely satisfied with his choosing to do so in his own way.

smilesy · 21/04/2025 18:22

Ohpleeeease · 21/04/2025 18:00

Possibly it isn’t.

I don’t think we can always compare the past with the present though.

My feeling is that the RF is in a more fragile state at the moment for a number of reasons, and anything that demonstrates cohesion is helpful.

I’m not bashing W, far from it, I applaud his commitment to his family because actually in terms of the preservation of the monarchy his most important job is to guarantee the next generation.

But I think there are some set pieces that it would be good to observe as things stand. And I’m entirely satisfied with his choosing to do so in his own way.

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I do t think they are in a fragile state at all. As pp says, the 90’s were pretty shit for them and they survived that. I think they are in a better place currently than they were then 🤷‍♀️

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 18:40

Welliguessso · 21/04/2025 17:46

Well yes he denied being involved with a trafficked 17 year old who he then paid 12million to so clearly there’s nothing going on and he definitely hasn’t got any kind of weird thing for teenagers. He also can’t sweat you know.

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Even if he did have sex with Virginia Roberts, where is your evidence of his attraction to young women in general? If he had a predilection for very young women, surely it would be more than just one?!

Do you know whether he can sweat or not? Presumably that could have been evidenced one way or the other? I'm not aware of his assertion being tested?

Welliguessso · 21/04/2025 19:02

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 18:40

Even if he did have sex with Virginia Roberts, where is your evidence of his attraction to young women in general? If he had a predilection for very young women, surely it would be more than just one?!

Do you know whether he can sweat or not? Presumably that could have been evidenced one way or the other? I'm not aware of his assertion being tested?

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Oh absolutely no evidence then of him liking young girls if he did in fact sleep with a 17 year old, and as you say there’s no proof and the 12 million means nothing. You’re right as well I’ve never met the man so maybe he really truly can’t sweat !

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:10

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/04/2025 13:06

Well well well, he did go to church. I think some people on this thread probably feel very silly right about now. I wonder if some posters are going to eat humble pie?

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Not me… sorry. This does not change my opinion at all that William is workshy. Nor does it change my opinion that Andrew should not have been there at all, and it’s mad to me that the family allow it yet I’m guessing that Harry would be told to stay away. (Also not a Harry fan, he comes across as a complete helmet too).

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 19:24

Welliguessso · 21/04/2025 19:02

Oh absolutely no evidence then of him liking young girls if he did in fact sleep with a 17 year old, and as you say there’s no proof and the 12 million means nothing. You’re right as well I’ve never met the man so maybe he really truly can’t sweat !

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Come on then - produce this evidence that shows him having an inappropriate interest in young girls other than Virginia Roberts? You can't, can you? You'd rather just make shit up that fits your agenda rather than basing your comments on actual facts!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 19:25

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:10

Not me… sorry. This does not change my opinion at all that William is workshy. Nor does it change my opinion that Andrew should not have been there at all, and it’s mad to me that the family allow it yet I’m guessing that Harry would be told to stay away. (Also not a Harry fan, he comes across as a complete helmet too).

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Harry wouldn't have gone because it would have been too dangerous for him!

smilesy · 21/04/2025 19:29

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:10

Not me… sorry. This does not change my opinion at all that William is workshy. Nor does it change my opinion that Andrew should not have been there at all, and it’s mad to me that the family allow it yet I’m guessing that Harry would be told to stay away. (Also not a Harry fan, he comes across as a complete helmet too).

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How does going to a different church make him workshy? As has been said as nauseam, Charles didn’t go to Windsor at Easter when he was Prince of Wales. Attendance at the Easter service is not part of the “job”. Andrew is, unfortunately, free to worship where he wants and why would Harry even be there? There is a lot of unfounded twaddle and sweeping generalisations being put forward about this church service

ThePoshUns · 21/04/2025 19:32

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 19:24

Come on then - produce this evidence that shows him having an inappropriate interest in young girls other than Virginia Roberts? You can't, can you? You'd rather just make shit up that fits your agenda rather than basing your comments on actual facts!

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What planet are you on? Did you not watch the interview? If you believe a word that comes out of his mouth you really need to have a good look at yourself Sarah/beatrice/ Eugenie.

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:47

smilesy · 21/04/2025 19:29

How does going to a different church make him workshy? As has been said as nauseam, Charles didn’t go to Windsor at Easter when he was Prince of Wales. Attendance at the Easter service is not part of the “job”. Andrew is, unfortunately, free to worship where he wants and why would Harry even be there? There is a lot of unfounded twaddle and sweeping generalisations being put forward about this church service

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Going to a different church doesn’t make him work shy. All fine. Working many fewer hours than his aging relatives makes him workshy.

Re. Andrew. I think the royal family need to stop being visible with him. It is outrageous to me that he is allowed to share these events when others aren’t. As much as I am frustrated with William, and find it weird that anyone cares that Fergie is there, my major issue is Andrew. Why the fuck is he tolerated? I don’t know how to say that more politely.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/04/2025 19:56

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:10

Not me… sorry. This does not change my opinion at all that William is workshy. Nor does it change my opinion that Andrew should not have been there at all, and it’s mad to me that the family allow it yet I’m guessing that Harry would be told to stay away. (Also not a Harry fan, he comes across as a complete helmet too).

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Not going to church, or choosing to worship in a different church, does not make him workshy. You can claim is workshy for actual lack of work (I understand that this is a frustration for some people) but I don’t think this is one of those times.

Spectre8 · 21/04/2025 19:59

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 16:48

I say what I see.

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And you dish it out yourself as well so I say what i see about you too.

Tomatotater · 21/04/2025 20:00

CurlewKate · 21/04/2025 17:38

I can’t wait for the Revolution-but I see no reason why William needs to go to Church if he doesn’t want to.

He should if he wants to be Head of the Church of England ( and it seems he did, even though I heard that he doesn't believe- also fine- it cant be forced) He's not the Head of the Church of Scotland and is still going to be King (barring Independence)

themightysossidge · 21/04/2025 20:02

Yay - lessons have been learnt in the past few days !

smilesy · 21/04/2025 20:02

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:47

Going to a different church doesn’t make him work shy. All fine. Working many fewer hours than his aging relatives makes him workshy.

Re. Andrew. I think the royal family need to stop being visible with him. It is outrageous to me that he is allowed to share these events when others aren’t. As much as I am frustrated with William, and find it weird that anyone cares that Fergie is there, my major issue is Andrew. Why the fuck is he tolerated? I don’t know how to say that more politely.

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I share your feelings about Andrew, as I’m sure everyone does. However, he is not a convicted criminal and he is still a member of the family and as has been said, he is free to attend his family’s place of worship. His daughters were also at church. He has a habit of putting himself in the spotlight when he does appear with his family, which is I believe a reflection of his own self aggrandisement and self entitlement. Fortunately he does not seem to appear in public too often. Short of completely denouncing him, I’m not sure what more they can do. I’m sure they would rather have him within their sight than have him off like a loose cannon

smilesy · 21/04/2025 20:03

Tomatotater · 21/04/2025 20:00

He should if he wants to be Head of the Church of England ( and it seems he did, even though I heard that he doesn't believe- also fine- it cant be forced) He's not the Head of the Church of Scotland and is still going to be King (barring Independence)

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He did go to church. How many more times? 🙄

oh I’ve just notices that you seem to know that. So what is your point?

Futurehappiness · 21/04/2025 20:09

HufflebuffsAreOn · 21/04/2025 19:47

Going to a different church doesn’t make him work shy. All fine. Working many fewer hours than his aging relatives makes him workshy.

Re. Andrew. I think the royal family need to stop being visible with him. It is outrageous to me that he is allowed to share these events when others aren’t. As much as I am frustrated with William, and find it weird that anyone cares that Fergie is there, my major issue is Andrew. Why the fuck is he tolerated? I don’t know how to say that more politely.

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This. I don't know for sure if Andrew is guilty of what he is accused of; but the visuals are terrible.

His interview which, far from clearing the air, just made him look shifty and at which he failed to show any empathy towards Epstein's victims. Did he know they were being exploited, or did he just see them as 'staff'?

His apparent failure to submit to interview by the FBI; he provided 'zero cooperation' according to the prosecutor in charge of the case. His paying off his accuser with millions. Most of all his retaining his friendship with Epstein after his conviction for sex trafficking.

Yet apparently the RF have no problem with any of this and want us all to forget too.

themightysossidge · 21/04/2025 20:11

@Futurehappiness your last sentence - you don't know that. You are speculating .

themightysossidge · 21/04/2025 20:13

Spectre8 · 21/04/2025 19:59

And you dish it out yourself as well so I say what i see about you too.

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God it's like a flipping pantomime in here at times 🙄

CathyorClaire · 21/04/2025 20:16

Are you content that they apparently attended church local to their home?

I think it's odd very few mainstream press outlets have picked up on the story given the furore.

It seems only to appear in a magazine that openly touts itself as an 'official royal rota' mouthpiece and is using stock photos and there seem to be some inconsistencies in the report IMO.

https://royalclub.hellomagazine.com/about

As I said above I don't doubt they were there but the whole thing smacks of a hastily put together PR push again IMO.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/04/2025 20:17

CathyorClaire · 21/04/2025 20:16

Are you content that they apparently attended church local to their home?

I think it's odd very few mainstream press outlets have picked up on the story given the furore.

It seems only to appear in a magazine that openly touts itself as an 'official royal rota' mouthpiece and is using stock photos and there seem to be some inconsistencies in the report IMO.

https://royalclub.hellomagazine.com/about

As I said above I don't doubt they were there but the whole thing smacks of a hastily put together PR push again IMO.

Sounds like you doubt they were to be honest…

wordler · 21/04/2025 20:18

Futurehappiness · 21/04/2025 20:09

This. I don't know for sure if Andrew is guilty of what he is accused of; but the visuals are terrible.

His interview which, far from clearing the air, just made him look shifty and at which he failed to show any empathy towards Epstein's victims. Did he know they were being exploited, or did he just see them as 'staff'?

His apparent failure to submit to interview by the FBI; he provided 'zero cooperation' according to the prosecutor in charge of the case. His paying off his accuser with millions. Most of all his retaining his friendship with Epstein after his conviction for sex trafficking.

Yet apparently the RF have no problem with any of this and want us all to forget too.

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I think he sees everyone that’s not in his inner circle as staff. It wouldn’t surprise me if he really believes he’d never met Victoria G before in his life because he simply doesn’t see any of the women in situations like that as individuals.

I was at university with someone whose father was quite high up in the army and who had a lovely home overseas - apparently Andrew would just call and say I’m coming with a few friends for a weekend break and take over the whole house and treat the actual family who lived there like staff. All free to him because he expected they were thrilled to be able to host him.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 21/04/2025 20:18

I think I started the William church controversy on this thread, and I do stand by my opinion that he needs to attend major religious events as future head of the church. However, I was not aware when I posted that he actually had attended, and I don’t think it matters that he wasn’t with the king, so long as he went to a church.

I’m not very keen on Will’s we’re just another ordinary family schtick. They aren’t an ordinary family and there’s no point in fighting it. So the insistence on privacy is fine up to a point, but I think he really hates the press/publicity and that’s not good in his position either. Both the Queen and Charles seemed to have an easier relationship with their public life than William. If you insist you want to be left alone people might start thinking what’s the point of a future monarch who seems to look on his role as a massive ballache? Charles actually looks like he loves being king.