Harry and RAVEC #2

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To me , he made it sound as if he only gets it if he has an invitation from the RF , so another fib then.

Because, significant affordability issues aside, the kind of security he wants (armed, privy to police information) is only available in this country from the police and they aren’t for sale. He can have private security here, but not with guns. I believe the only armed security allowed other than the police is for the US President and Harry just isn’t in that league.

You would think there would have been a family memo at this point.

"Dear members of One's family

Don't do interviews, you will make a great tit of yourself and cause more problems than you solve.

Sincerely

The monarch

His childhood friends would have been establishment. His army friends fairly 'select' as well given the regiment. All drawn from a relatively small circle who believe in the monarchy.

Then it's reported that Meghan objected to the blood sports common in those circles.

For all Charles Spencer's big - occasional - speeches I don't get the impression he delivers as an uncle.

I doubt Harry has many old friends left.

Harry said in his BBC interview earlier: "I have had it described to me, once people knew about the facts, that this is a good old-fashioned establishment stitch-up, and that is what it feels like."

It strikes me, @Choux, that this is another of Harry's "plausible deniability" statements

Predictably many are already claiming that Harry himself insisted it was an establishment stitch up, where in fact he said that's how it was described to him

We've heard variations of this "I didn't say that, the media did" before, but sometimes I wonder if he really is as stupid as some of his comments make him appear

Well he has admitted to a failure to grasp his own family's history...

He either lies all the time or genuinely doesn't understand anything so contradicts what he's said.

This is my uninformed guess as to what the situation is.

If Harry comes to Britain for an official engagement, such as the Jubilee, or to visit Charles, he will be provided with full security even if he arrives without notice.

However, if he comes over to hang out with whatever friends he has left, or to 'visit a charity', he has to provide advance notice and cooperate with RAVEC as regards his travel and accommodation arrangements. Also, the security provided might not be full RPP level. Harry thinks he's too important for this, hence the toys from pram.

To repeat, this is just a guess. But it sounds more plausible than the self pitying nonsense Harry is coming up with.

Serving the public bollocks more like!!! 🙄

Wasn't he the one who recreated the Paris tunnel chase?

Yes.

Whilst I think Harry is a massive div, part of me , on a human level, feels sorry pity for him . He is so isolated now, like a pp said, no real friends left, a self centred wife, not in his own country , a global laughing stock. He really is his own worst enemy and he needs someone to talk some sense into him before this destroys him.

The problem is there is noone to do that now.

He is completely isolated from everyone who cared about him and might have been a restraining influence on him. Now all he has is his wife.

Classic controlling relationship.

Yes, that makes sense to me.

Omg that’s so funny. It’s amazing how people twist themselves in knots to keep defending H.

The thing is, I've met people like this.

They can often enjoy surface level relationships which don't challenge their world view. But anything else is utterly dependent on entirely subscribing to their world view.

If you agree, you're good in all ways. If you disagree, you're bad in all ways.

How on earth do you know his children are gorgeous?

He does in California - it is a significant cost that even with his wealth is potentially unaffordable in the long term. In the UK private security cannot be armed (obviously) and nor would they have access to the sort of intelligence used by RAVEC

It might be that if he visits dad or his bro then he gets caught in their protection, which is the level he wants. But if he gives 28 days notice RAVEC will provide security relative to his risk which won’t be at a level he thinks counts.

The BBC has a duty to challenge this. They ought not to broadcast any of his wild claims and bizarre conspiracy theories. It's not anywhere near a decent standard of journalism.

The BBC's original brief was to 'inform, educate and entertain'

I think they've managed to fulfil all three obligations while highlighting how the royals (any) play us.

Thank you, Henry for a republican masterpiece 😂

My understanding is that he can give 30 days notice of any visit to the UK and his security needs will be assessed. He doesn't have to wait to be invited. Yet again, he is trying to mislead. And yet again, he doesn't join up the facts. He chose to attend the Court of Appeal hearing last month and had his own security and the Met, plain for all to see. The Met didn't land there unbidden like telepathic fairies from the heavens.

Harry is obsessed with what happened to his mother, understandably. If he had really learnt from her experience, he would have seen the risks of leaving and of losing his security. But the claw of Meghan is strong and he left because she was unhappy in the UK. The wilder accusations in today's interview are no doubt the product of discussions with her, with them winding themselves up to crescendo pitch - there are people who want us dead, they signalled to other governments we shouldn't have security, it's an establishment stitch-up, my father should intervene and sort it, RAVEC needs looking into, get the PM involved etc.

If only he had the wit to understand this! He's such an ultra royalist!

This is a really interesting point.

Meghan does it too. Someone told her to publish the Bench, a friend suggested they approach NF etc. It's all bollocking bollocks, but they think they are building in plausible deniability, they really aren't.

Thinking back on the interview it is striking that he appears to want to reconcile without realising that just maybe he needs to apologise first. Everything is from his point of view, as if the rest of his family, the courts, the government etc are dummies that exist only to do what he wants. Extreme main character energy in other words.