Harry and RAVEC #2

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I agree and we are going to get some ridiculous grandstanding by his barrister which is completely not related to the case/over eggs his security risk. Urgh!

I'm not sure Harry is in the UK to hear the result of his appeal. This headline 'Harry to discover legal outcome of battle over security while in the UK' has two meanings: 1. Harry is in the UK for the ruling 2. The ruling is about his security when he is in the UK.

If he was in the UK today, I think the headline would be different: 'Harry in UK to hear appeal court ruling on his security'.

Yes - I'm not sure he is in the UK @IdaGlossop - not that it matters either way - he did not need to be at the appeal.

Even if he's 'won', it would be overkill to be in the UK to hear the outcome. It was bad enough him being here for the hearing.

Maybe it won't go in his favour then , I'm sure he would attend if it had, so that he couldgloat celebrate with his lawyers.

I don't think there is evidence he is here at the moment. The news are running footage from the last time he was in court.

I want to say that he has the option to request permission to appeal to the Supreme (?) court if he loses this appeal, which would be the final end game. But no guarantee that they would accept the appeal (I think, definitely not an expert in this)

You are correct, @ellesar! Harry gets two bites at the cherry to get permission to appeal to the Supreme Court if he loses. First, he applies directly to the Court of Appeal - the same judges who will have just determined against him. If they says no, he can then apply again, directly to the Supreme Court. If they say no, he is out fo options.

Obviously if the Home Office loses today, they would have the same ability to apply for permission to appeal.

The Supreme Court only hears appeals of matters of law that are in the public interest. So it’s not immediately obvious that they would take an appeal brought by an individual in relation to the decisions of a body which has a very limited scope.

You're more than welcome, @BasiliskStare

And that's an excellent piece of timing with your return to the thread, @Serenster

I know nothing about Grok but

Oh 😬

What’s grok?

I'm watching live on BBC and nothings been announced yet. Supposed to be 2pm

Don't know about Grok but the Guardian has just opened live coverage on the announcement and states the judges 'will give their decision at 2pm."

I've no idea!

Grok 3 appears to be AI, and it has splinters in its arse from the look of those answers.

What's all that wailing in the background

Judge is reading out his verdict, so far, I'm not seeing that Harry has won his case

Yup, Harry's case dismissed

Paraphrasing, but while he acknowledged Harry had grievances about his security being changed, that was a human element and not a legal issue.

Case dismissed!

Case lost.

Dismissed

Let's hope he will now have to pay the costs and stop wasting taxpayers money.

"I could not say that the Duke's sense of grievance translated into a legal argument. "

Finally.

Hoo-fucking-ray!
Now maybe he’ll stop wasting everyone’s time and find something constructive to do.