I am glad Kate is feeling much better,however

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Watching the news about the horrendous rubbish problem in Birmingham,this was followed by Kates film clip rambling about Windermere saying we need to connect with nature and couldn’t help thinking it was inappropriate.I bet cancer sufferers in Birmingham would love to do this instead of holding down a job worrying about col doing chores that I bet she never does and have stinking rubbish with rats in the streets. I have no problem with her video but thought the timing was so off. They sometimes need to read the room.

If they had planned to go on a private family visit to Church, why would they plan a walkabout? Especially as they had all three children with them. And as Serenster said above, their special protection would have had apoplexy. Also, it costs money to police a walkabout and it was Easter Sunday. Do you think the local constabulary should have had to rock up to police the crowds?

If that were the case, then the police could have come and told the crowd that Their Royal Majesties were deeply touched by their support, but unfortunately, due to security concerns, they were sadly unable to do a walkabout on this occasion.
That would’ve got top billing in the Daily Mail and an appreciative, if resigned, sigh from the crowd.
But as far as I’m aware — nothing.

Who exactly is managing their PR as a major institution of state?
Seemingly someone with no ability whatsoever.

I’ll do it for peanuts!

QEII said the royals have to be seen to be believed a long time ago. Before 24 hour rolling news and the internet becoming the dominant information vehicle it is now, before smartphones and before social media. @vera99 you talk a load of tosh, and your "concern" for the crowd at Sandringham is risible. I'm sure you will renege on your remarks about William being a lazy atheist though, since he managed to get out of bed and go to church. Or are you taking the credit for that as one of the "malcontents"? Did you go to church this Easter?

Repetition is a key marketing tool. There is a reason even those of us from the era of program TV where we watched a cartoon once a week, can still sing the intro songs years later. The repetition of talking points despite whatever your interviewer or debate opponent is saying is classic political strategy. Smearing the opponent, may not pay immediate dividends but with repetition, you can create narratives...XYZ is "lazy." ABC has a "bad temper."

By examining this board, a pattern emerges in the headlines. 1. William and Catherine's titles are never used. 2. The headline contains a negative spin. Each time you read the title you are being brainwashed by the negative spin on W&C...which was likely one of the objectives of the OP.

A lot of the PR posters repeat talking points along a certain matrix. If the Wales family did not go to church abuse would ensue deploring the lack of faith. Now, that the Wales family was at church, the talking point is oh well it was a PR exercise. There is no good faith in talking points as whatever the Wales family does, they will be attacked by Sussex PR.

The latest talking point is "It is so unfair on W and the kids. They need their privacy and to choose their destiny." It is simply a more sophisticated reworking of H claiming his brother was trapped. But as ever, none of these talking points add up to reality and none of these talking points will help the Sussexes with their Hollywood pursuit of money.

Why would they need an announcement? Presumably everyone else at the service would have left through the normal door, and so would have been perfectly able to tell the assembled crowd that the family had nipped out the back?

Careful @vera99 your bias is showing. William and Catherine don’t need to do a walk about, they’re already the most popular royals, they don’t need to do a walkabout when they’re trying to privately worship, they’re popular enough as it is 🥰

@vera99 , I thought you claimed that William is unpopular and the RF popularity is dying out. Now you think the police should be managing the disappointment of their fans turning up at church. Not so unpopular, then?

I'm a trustee of a Buddhist charity and was at the temple today, since you ask.
Baptised as a baby in the Church of England, I went to Sunday school for 10 years — until I was asked to leave at 14 by the Superintendent, who said my refusal to be Confirmed, and the doubt I was spreading, was infecting the class.
I'll never forget going home and telling my parents, "They've kicked me out."
Which felt surreal, given that one of my earliest memories was making felt pictures of the Nativity.

Sad news about the Pope though — he truly seemed like the real thing.
A King of Kings in the most meaningful sense — not through power or pageantry, but through humility, compassion, and service.

He shunned the grandeur and wealth so often associated with the upper echelons of the Catholic Church, choosing instead to walk alongside the poor, the marginalised, and the forgotten.
He spoke plainly, lived simply, and carried himself with a kind of grace that didn't demand attention — it earned it.

In a world where so many leaders cling to status and spectacle, he stood apart by embracing the essence of what spiritual leadership should be.

Have you been at the ChatGPT again? 😆

I write my stuff from my head and my heart, quickly — and I use Chat to proofread and correct, not to write.

Right, so you are not a Christian, or a believer in the Christian faith, but you are judging William for doing something he hasn't done (abandoning/neglecting the C of E) and for not doing performative worship to appease the crowds. And you call yourself a Buddhist despite all your pious judgement. OK then.

@vera99 'Their Royal Majesties' were in Windsor

I never said I was infallible or without sin — who is?
I simply answered the question I was asked, honestly.
Seeing how they treat their tenants on the Duchy of Cornwall tells me all I need to know about the true nature of their hearts.

Oh @vera99 you do make me laugh 🤭

God the smearing of the Waleses would turn me away from ever being a republican & im not a royalist. It’s getting exhausting which I suspect is the point.

Why on earth would we want more instability in the U.K. by getting rid of a constitutional monarchy where parliament is sovereign? I’m beginning to suspect ulterior motives. I’ll probably be deleted but it’s getting ridiculous.

One of my closest friends wisely — and a bit sharply — says, “Why do you care?”
It muddles along, keeps the extremes at bay, so the finer details of the characters are irrelevant.
The real point is: to break it would be a symptom of something more troubling than where we are now.

If the mass of the population finds some comfort, some sense of hope, in all this pomp and circumstance — so be it. Let it be.

Amen. Goodnight ladies it's been fun !

No you are not a Christian, no you did not go to church for Easter, yes you have stood in judgement of a man who is a Christian who has gone to church on Easter Day. For which you would like to take the credit along with a load of press you would otherwise profess was rancid. I'm not sure what Buddhist teaching any of that falls into!

The tenants should take legal action. Residential tenancies are protected by a plethora of legislation that protects them against conditions that are either unlawful under criminal law and/or that breach their tenancy agreements.

You are correct in ulterior motives.

It is quite clear that Russia's goal is to destabilise the West. Russian bots were proven to be involved in amplifying the Where's Kate debacle in early 2024.

I genuinely believe that people do not understand the time, effort and most importantly cost to become a Republic.

Yeah because someone cant handle the truth and asking them to be deleted. It's okay for their posts to stand, I repeat the same thing theyvwrote back to them and mine is deleted as it was repeoted. I just didn't bother reporting theirs cos let it stand so people see what they write.

Funny you say I'm being nasty I'm not the one who continually makes nasty comments about two people I don't know every single time they do something.

The new stick used to beat the Wales has been fascinating to watch unfold. How frustrating for those who were suddenly so deeply invested in William going to church to realise that he did attend. In fact he attended privately on another royal estate, just like the King did when he was Prince of Wales.

But of course the goal posts are now being moved and William is dreadful because he didn't stop to greet the crowds on a private visit to church. Her literally cannot win with some posters and I'm glad that all they have been through in the last year seems to have led them to decide not to try.

And you can apply that to almost everything on the media that gets reported on regulary, whether its other royals, political topics etc. There is also a certain narrative being spun.

I genuinely believe that people do not understand the time, effort and most importantly cost to become a Republic

I genuinely do understand, and I know that the UK will not go down the Republic path for a couple of lifetimes.If at all. It will limp on, in what form, I do not know.

I am for change, and not necessarily a republic because I am a realistic person. And the reasons are, there is not the stomach for it after brexit, no political party will touch it, and it will take a good decade to unravel the monarchy. However that does not mean the monarchy cannot modernise become more transparent and change and that is long overdue.

I don't think the Waleses are lazy because a Russian bot told me to. I think they're lazy because that's what the evidence of many years strongly suggests. We know that Kate in particular has always done the bear minimum and hung around for a decade, never getting a job or doing anything productive, waiting for William to propose. This really isn't a new phenomenon.

MN still have to assess whether your posts broke TG’s @Spectre8 they don’t just delete on request, your ‘truth’ or not.

I have found that some posters are very 'report happy', others like Spectre and me, can't be bothered. And we know that mumsnet operates on the basis of not moderating unless reported.