I am glad Kate is feeling much better,however

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Watching the news about the horrendous rubbish problem in Birmingham,this was followed by Kates film clip rambling about Windermere saying we need to connect with nature and couldn’t help thinking it was inappropriate.I bet cancer sufferers in Birmingham would love to do this instead of holding down a job worrying about col doing chores that I bet she never does and have stinking rubbish with rats in the streets. I have no problem with her video but thought the timing was so off. They sometimes need to read the room.

This isn’t a radical viewpoint, that William is expected to attend the Easter service as one of the most senior rentals and future head of the church.

Not from the posters who seem to have a problem with me taking issue with William.

A small minority are bothered. Yourself included. But why did no one say any thing the times Charles was absent? Because it does not matter! There is no expectation for him to attend because there is no protocol to demand that he attends. Sometimes senior royals have other concerns, like tours or family life. The Princess of Wales has only just recently come out of remission from Cancer. Nor is it our concern how any one, let alone the head of the Church of England, practices their faith. I don’t understand why anyone is bothered why anyone else practises their personal faith unless they are a bigot. It’s not complicated.

But not yet Head of the Church of England. The way he practises his faith is private until such a day.

No issue with William, you just don’t seem
to take issue with other senior royals who have also declined attending royal or religious ceremonies within the past 50 or so years. You are the one who seems to be taking an issue with William…

Additionally, I never set the tone. I stated my opinion which wasn’t quoting others or questioning others opinions.

I never called out others for their opinion or called them names.

It wasn’t…. I don’t agree, I think he’s doing a great job. It was aggressively quoting and asking questions. Why? It’s genuinely not a radical opinion.

People can disagree but this sort of behaviour is usually the MO of the Sussex fans. Pile ons and name calling.

You mentioned Charles not attending. I said he should have attended.

It’s just a healthy debate. You don’t like it because you cannot justify your opinion.

So did you post a message on Mumsnet or whatever about this? Did you write a letter to the Head of the Church of England or the Archbishop of Canterbury? You know, the ones who can make a real difference?

I don’t think anyone has a a problem with you taking issues with William, it is that you are
taking issue for no real substantive reason. You say that it is being reported so it must be an issue. But there is precedent for senior royals not going to the service at Windsor. So William is only doing what Charles has done previously. As pp have said, it’s a bit of a slow royal news time, so the press are shit stirring. It really is a non story

It’s not healthly if youre attaching labels to people @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai

Calling me an obsessed royalist etc

I understand fully that you don’t agree with me and think William should be able to celebrate Easter as and how he wants to, if indeed he wants to. I’m not going to label you because you have that opinion.

I don’t share that opinion, but I also don’t think I should be called names because of it.

It might interest you @AtIusvuethat while many share your opinion and will tut tut about things like this , there will also be many that don't. Scotland eg is totally different . The Church of Scotland is a Presbyterian church and recognises only Jesus Christ as 'King and Head of the Church'. The King therefore does not hold the title 'Supreme Governor' of the Church of Scotland; when attending Church services in Scotland His Majesty does so as an ordinary member.

Again, once you told me you were not a devout Protestant or Royalist, I said I didn’t understand how you came to this point of view without you being either of these. I suggest you reread my posts to try and understand this, as you seem to be confused and upset about the matter. I suggest you calm down and reread the thread? If you think being called a possible royalist or devout Protestant is name calling than I suggest you might be bigoted? Maybe you should work on that?

Perhaps you don’t think I’ve explained myself particularly well or there’s just not good enough reasoning but I have tried to explain my opinion. Repeatedly.

It’s certainly not shared on this thread, but the public does have certain expectations of William. Easter service, which he has attended for decades being one small one. It’s why it’s being reported in the press. Not just by the DM.

I’m saying that as time goes on, I believe the public will start to pull away from William because of this picking and choosing what he does and doesn’t attend.

With what evidence? A few choice comments from the Daily Mail? Anything else to back your opinion?

But you have repeatly used the term. I’ve also explained how you’ve used the term indirectly.

It shouldn’t take me saying stop, for you not to call people names. It’s should have started in the first place.

How is it name calling when I am saying I am not calling you these things? I think you are getting confused, tell me where I have called you these things since you told me you are not?

I’m not making this information up, multiple outlets have reported that he isn’t attending.

There may not be opinion articles attached or Front page headlines, but it is news that they’ve deemed important enough to give some ink to. Why? Because there’s expectations that he would attend.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/norfolk-prince-chapel-louis-wales-b2735272.html

But it’s simply a news story to say they are not attending. No one is frothing at the mouth and demanding blood. It’s a non story. Yet you seem to be taking it personally and I cannot figure out why?

You labelled me obsessed and a royalist. On top of initially using a religious label….that you then went on to indirectly use, even if you were no longer directly using it.

However, you shouldn’t be applauding yourself for no longer using such names. You shouldn’t be doing that when having a ‘healthy debate’ in the first place.

I appreciate what your opinion is, but it just seems rather disproportionate to what William is doing. Especially as he may well attend Church anyway. We don’t know yet. But he absolutely does not have to do so in Windsor, if at all. You seem to be saying that the RF have to parade about for the benefit of the public, even when it’s a private event, because there is an “expectation”. But that does not mean that it is compulsory for someone to perform to that “expectation”. The “expectation” is other people’s problem in this particular case. Just because the family usually gather for this service, does not mean they have to

Yes. That’s precisely my point. If there were no expectations on him, him not attending wouldn’t be news.

But there are expectations based upon his seniority, his future role as head of the church and the decades of precedence. Thats why it’s news.

We also know he is not as religious as his father or grandmother was

But Charles didn’t always attend the service. And the public don’t seem to have a problem with him. Charles did things his own way when he was Prince of Wales and we were constantly hearing that he would never be accepted as king. This was evidently not the case. Now we hear that William is too picky and not doing enough etc. It’s only a variation on what we heard about Charles being “unsuitable” to be king

As are many people in the UK. Perhaps a changing modernised RF means not doing some of the things that were previously done. Perhaps it is a good thing that William is seen at football matches with his son. Perhaps that makes him more relatable. People do not have to continue in exactly the same way as years before. We wouldn't want to be still poking red hot pokers up people's arses now would we!