Harry RAVEC decision appeal

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I thought I would start a separate thread to discuss the court case which started today. I for one am still baffled as to why Harry thinks that his treatment has been unreasonable, given that he no longer lives in the UK, but is still given security on a case by case basis when he visits. This seems perfectly reasonable to me 🤷‍♀️

Well, he won't do anything without some sort of press attention.

But he does get protection when he's in the uk .

Uh huh.

My heart bleeds.

I really don’t get why people do nt understand this

Like I said, they need to read the thread, which has been very well informed and has kept to the topic.

Or maybe ignorance is bliss?

So yesterday in Court his barrister is plugging away "Harry's life is in danger in the UK"

Today he's off to an active War zone

... wonder if the barrister feels stupid now

Might I refer you to earlier on in the thread when the remarks of the KC for the home office were posted? In a nutshell, he said that Harry has a bespoke arrangement to reflect the fact that he doesn’t live permanently in the UK. He does receive security on the odd occasion he is here. He is just required to
give notice of his visits. Does that not seem a reasonable arrangement to you? Also, you say he cannot help the family he was born in to. Neither can the Princess Royal or the Duke of Edinburgh. They do not have 24/7 security 😊

Actually an agreement was made when Diana died that the paparazzi would leave the boys alone. The press also left William alone at Uni and agreed on a media blackout when Harry was in Afghanistan

And he was born into it - so what. Some children are born into poverty, or foster care. They have to burden the effects of that and find a way to muddle through - Harry is at an advantage because he’s immensely wealthy.

Also he does get security when in the UK. As would his wife and children. He isn’t suing because he has no security. He’s suing because he doesn’t want a case by case risk assessment, he’s suing because he wants the same as his brother (who always has high level security be wise he’s a future monarch, he actually lives in the UK and the threat is seen as high enough to warrant high level security)

I thought the same. The irony of him coming to the UK to sue because he’s apparently not safe enough in a war free country, then to have a fly by visit to a war zone

But RAVEC should decide HOW high the risk is. They’ll have information you’re not privy to to assess this. Why should they get more taxpayer funded security than what they need?

Because they’re naive and have bought into the strong implications that daddy took his security away. Charles couldn’t do this if he wanted to; and it hasn’t been taken away

Exactly

There's also the fact that Harry and his wife are just not that important.

Taxpayer funded security is a scarce resource and is allocated not just on the basis of individual risk, but on an assessment of the impact an attack would have on national security. Harry is the King's son but he plays no official role and doesn't even live in the country. He simply does not meet the criteria for automatic security at all times.

So it was too dangerous to go to a friend’s wedding in Chelsea but ok to go into an actual war zone ?
I need a drink .

You couldn’t make it up!
Enjoy🍷

I knew he was going to turn up in Ukraine one day. I know he cares about soldiers but it feels like a photo op he couldn't resist.
Sophie Wessex went to Ukraine last year and Charles and William are close to Zelensky.
I'd love to see the Invictus accounts.

Exactly.

It's even worse given that the King and Queen are currently on a state visit to Italy.

The Foreign Office will likely have laughed at the 'tours' but I don't think they'll be happy about this latest stunt.

He’s not the future King. Of course his risk is lower.

I think he did care about Invictus, and I think he does care about wounded soldiers.

However, he doesn't care as much as either of these, as he cares about his wife needing to be front and center of both of them and of him when he's at the games.

For goodness sake when is the man child Harry going to wake up - “I need top notch security but will happily skip off to a war zone for publicity”. Can he please just go back to Montewhateveritis and stay there for the quiet life of privilege he was so desperate for.

He didn't ask to be born into this family and received no privacy as a child after his mother died
It's true he didn't ask to be born into such a high profile family, he decided he didn't like it and left. So why then , has he carried on as if he is still in said family, courting publicity and drama wherever he goes?

The visit is irrelevant to the case. The case is not about whether he is at risk but about whether he was treated fairly by Ravec ie it's about process. He argues he wasn't by definition treated fairly because a bespoke process was applied, not the same one used for other VIPs and celebrities.

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No matter how many times it's said!

They are published by the Charity Commission so you can.