Harry RAVEC decision appeal

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I thought I would start a separate thread to discuss the court case which started today. I for one am still baffled as to why Harry thinks that his treatment has been unreasonable, given that he no longer lives in the UK, but is still given security on a case by case basis when he visits. This seems perfectly reasonable to me 🤷‍♀️

Harry is famously tight, so I very much doubt he ever sincerely 'offered to pay'.

It was a PR move put out to counter the public distaste at being asked to fund this expat's security, but it didn't really work. The idea that a rich expat could pay for scarce, highly sensitive public resources made him look even more stupid, entitled and out of touch. In the scheme of things, Harry really isn't that rich so if he were allowed to pay, then any number of dodgy businessmen way richer than him could presumably do the same.

Daft idea.

Incorrect. He has been prepared to do that all along and has said so several times.

Not incorrect. Harry’s offer to pay came only after he had already issued his lawsuit against the Home Office seeking tax payer funding, and the offer was made to make his position more palatable to the public.

Harry sued the Mail on Sunday for defamation when they reported on this, but withdrew his claim and paid their costs after the judge at the preliminary hearing looked at the evidence and said the Mail on Sunday would be able to prove what it wrote was true.

Absolutely! The second nation to realise they're 2 greedy entitled bags of uselessness!! I recall that they had some UK security who had to leave their families at home to work in Canada and were often sent out for Costa / Starbucks style Coffees for the lazy tenants!

Hiring a police officer might be a good way to increase funding to the force. It could be called C.R.A.P - Celebrity Rent A Policeman. I'd happily take the job of taking bookings.

I wish there was a 😲 button!

I once saw William zoom past. It is probably not just the security aspect H is keen on, but also the outriders that stopped the traffic (including me) to allow William to go straight across each junction without stopping. Must be quite a come down to go from that to getting caught in a traffic jam.

In his younger days he definitely had to be restrained from starting fights in pubs and clubs quite a lot.

He also tried to hit his protection officer once and wrote about it in Spare

Why won't he bring his US ream?

She used to, 40+ years ago, my daughter running round a store like a maniac knocked him flying coming round a corner, PA was quite amused.

He's a rich, white, able-bodied, heterosexual, actual Prince, who still manages to take up airspace, time, money and public resources whining about not having enough. He's a bore who needs to bugger off and have a good think about himself in a darkened room. So much entitlement when there are people in the very country he's a Prince of, who can't afford to feed their children or heat their homes - or even work for a living. (Penny to a pound his little brain wouldn't understand needing to be able to afford to work.) Idiot man.

They can’t carry guns in the UK and Harry thinks that US security wouldn’t be briefed in the same way that Met protection would be.

*Apparently it's a thing where countries pay for each others' VIPs while there, presumably trusting the others to only grant IPP status where it's genuinely needed.

It makes sense. We would only want known UK protection officers and police carrying guns in the UK and wouldn’t want to divulge security secrets to foreign regimes and vice versa.

@Profhilodisaster ... you know the rules ... diagram
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Didn't one of the Obama daughters live in London for a while? Without any hullabaloo. Children of former presidents only get Secret Service security until age 16.

@Lunde - I have a LOT of judgements about Harry, all bad to be finest, but actually able to punch someone 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's a wet lettuce leaf when sober and not snorting whatever he can find

Yes, she did. It's funny how some people manage to live under the radar..

The police liaise with reputable security firms. And as mentioned above, his situation is under continual review so should the police believe there is any threat to Harry then of course they would step in. He may not be as important as he likes to think but he is still the King's son and nobody wants any harm to come to him or his family.

How does he manage without his security team having access to intelligence in California? He spends at most a few weeks of the year in Britain so surely his focus should be on where he and his family actually live? The whole thing is such a farce.

Never mind the "foreign regimes" for a moment; it's more Harry learning the exact details of security that would worry me, given how indiscreet he is

A slight curveball I realise, but do we actually know that they have a US "team" who protect them?
I'm aware that H&M have been seen with security folk at events, but it's possible to hire them by the day/occasion and I'm talking about the kind of permanent people who'd be on the payroll ...

So Harry has gone from a court room claiming his “life is at risk” in the U.K. to Ukraine which (pardon my ignorance) seems much more war torn and a risky place to be?!

Well. He can’t be too bothered about security. Apparently he has popped up in Ukraine! Fuck knows who he is representing 🤷‍♀️Sorry I can’t archive atm for some reason

See here

Yes, going to Westminster Abbey in a limousine is far more dangerous than a visit to Ukraine.

So now we know why he came to London. It was just an appeal so there was no need for him to be there. It was a stop off on the way to Ukraine. So much for 'security'.

What we need next is for Harry to be deemed a vexatious litigant. Then he'll have to get permission from the courts if he finds other causes he can make the British public fund him to argue in the courts. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vexatious-litigants Let's start a petition: Make Prince Harry a vexatious litigant.

What a fool he is. He has nine bathrooms when some people in the nation he claims have high regard for him have none because they are homeless. He's made a spectacle of himself this week, after tripping himself up over the Sentebale fiasco two weeks ago. He walks into court surrounded by heavies, runs scared of a woman sitting in court who claims to support him and who may have been an H&M plant, and writes a load of saccharine nonsense for his barrister to conclude her evidence with. And all this when even if the court finds in his favour, he may end up with just the same security arrangement as he has now when Ravec reconveneds to discuss his case.

And to conclude this rant, he's made a 'secret' visit to Ukraine, a war-torn land, and lived to tell the tale.

The thing is, though, I don't think he's really worried about terrorists or assassins. He wants the security to keep the paparazzi away.

From his “spokesperson” 🙄

This is all about the PR.

news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-visits-war-victims-in-ukraine-spokesperson-says-13345925