Harry RAVEC decision appeal

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I thought I would start a separate thread to discuss the court case which started today. I for one am still baffled as to why Harry thinks that his treatment has been unreasonable, given that he no longer lives in the UK, but is still given security on a case by case basis when he visits. This seems perfectly reasonable to me 🤷‍♀️

He seems to want access to security data as if he think he can make better decisions on threats than the professionals. Most of his case seems to be window dressing, covering the fact that this is being driven by his paranoia and trauma. Nothing will satisfy him. Even if he gets access to some security data, and why would he, I doubt he has security clearance, but even if he did he would move on to believing that they weren't telling him everything. The problem isn't his security, it's his beliefs about his security.

maybe he wants a secret invisible portal?

Paid for by the taxpayer 😂

I'm feeling weary from H&M overload, my own fault I know. What has come home to me as a result of following bits of today's proceedings is that nothing is ever good enough for them. Staff in the UK and the US, professionals with experience, don't do what they want. Their parents are inadequate - withholding of affection (H of DF), duplicitous (M of DF). The press don't write the articles they want. A £32m wedding with a crowd of hundreds of thousands is 'just for show'. M as a royal wore Givenchy but wanted to wear Emilia Wicksted. The British government gives them bespoke security but they want what Pa and William have. The Queen gives them a five-bedroom home in the middle of a spectacular park but they want a home with nine. Pa gave them a six-figure allowance but M wants to be a billionaire. It is possible to be privileged and conscious of your privilege (as I suspect William is). H doesn't have a clue. M at least has said 'I didn't always live like this'.

Yes, 'principals' don't usually get access to the intelligence. Given how indiscreet Harry is, that's a good thing.

The whole thing is ridiculous. He is 5th in line and his main 'job' appears to be a glorified influencer for a life coaching app. Yes he's the King's son but he's really not that important, and is becoming less so all the time. He's very lucky to have the special security arrangement he has, but Harry seems incapable of appreciating all his completely unearned good fortune.

Totally futile unless he’s charged his mind about how awful the UK is and how they couldn’t get away fast enough?
Wi a bit of luck he’ll lose the case, have another hissy fit and never be seen here again. All rather sad for his father but I can’t imagine anyone in his family ever being able to relax in his company for fear of ending up in the tabloids or their next interview on tv or NF.

It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, although a lot of the evidence tomorrow will be heard in private. I don’t think we will get a judgment for a while though

If he loses this appeal, he'll appeal to the Supreme Court. He's dealing with a government so an out of court settlement is not on the cards.

I’ve said before Harry fell in love with someone who fed his paranoia instead of humouring him. That’s his great misfortune. Folie a deux.

If he loses this appeal, he'll appeal to the Supreme Court. He's dealing with a government so an out of court settlement is not on the cards.

That would be quite unlikely, as the Supreme Court only hears appeals on matters of law that raise issues of public importance. An individual Prince’s challenge to the bespoke arrangements used to determine his security provision is unlikely to meet that test!

He opted out of his job, his role. The perks go with it. He still has security available he just needs to plan ahead like normal people. I wish he'd just bugger off now, so sick of him.

I love the idea of that. How much happier he probably would have been with someone like that. The man never looks genuinely happy. I don’t see his marriage being a place where he and Meghan share belly laughs and genuine fun.

So is this the end of the road ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05nm8d9nd6o.amp. " are you going to speak to your Dad, Harry? " 😬

In terms of legal wrangling: perhaps.

In terms of us hearing allllllll about the pouting, foot stamping unfairness of it: not a chance in hell. Unfortunately.

This is all about wanting exactly what William has. Like how the massive apartment at Kensington palace they were offered wasn't good enough because William and Catherines was bigger. He's clearly still bitter about those extra sausages that William was given lol

Yeah - because the royal residences have actual security and you can't just tramp through with a Netflix crew without clearing it first ....

Funny how some sorts of security are not to his liking 😂

Quite! 🤔

I bet William and Kate are happy not to have Harry, Meghan and the Netflix crew 600m away.

This all seems like a massive waste of taxpayers money, he doesn’t visit the UK (aside from court cases) and has no official role. It will probably be best for everyone if he loses the case and lives a quiet life in the USA with his family. I also wanted to say that I saw him on TV earlier and was surprised how much he now looks like Charles, shame that he didn’t inherit any of his mother’s looks (just the red hair from that side).

Yeah - it's like quitting your job and then whining that they no longer pay you, you don't get to keep the company car, access to the company flat, the corner office, the office staff, the holiday home in the country, the corporate jet ....

I don't think Harry had any idea exactly how much his privileged life in the UK truly cost until he tried to recreate it in the US. At the time of Megxit experts were talking in terms of his security costing £7 million a year - probably much more now.

Well I guess he could try the European Court of Human Rights - I mean it's his birthright to have armed security paid for by someone else 🙄🙄🙄

Shall we club together and send him a packet of Richmond chipolatas if he calls the whole thing off? 😂

Anyone heard stupid boy from dads army when they seen Harry! He had everything....his choice what has happened since...

"are you going to speak to your Dad, Harry?"

His dad is not in the country, so no particular reason why H should be speaking to him this week rather than last week or next week. Pa is currently enjoying some ancient history in Rome, celebrating his 20th wedding anniversary, and probably glad to be away while this is going on.