Harry RAVEC decision appeal

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I thought I would start a separate thread to discuss the court case which started today. I for one am still baffled as to why Harry thinks that his treatment has been unreasonable, given that he no longer lives in the UK, but is still given security on a case by case basis when he visits. This seems perfectly reasonable to me 🤷‍♀️

I suspect that the main reason he doesn’t want to stay at a royal residence is that he can’t come and go as he pleases. When he stated his unhappiness about the “entrance” to St James’ Palace, he allegedly gave an interview to ITV from the hotel he was staying in. He couldn’t do that in a royal residence 🤷‍♀️

That sounds so accurate that I'm wondering if you've bugged the palace.

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These cases come from Harry trying to create relevance in a country where he no longer has any official role, plus a bit of homesickness for the life he chose to give up.

I believe Harry is only homesick for the elevated position he was in in the uk
and the deference he received from it’s people.

What nonsense. No other royal is seen coming or going from any property! He's just talking rubbish now.

Don't you think a 'bespoke' arrangement, whereby his security needs are under continual assessment and protection will be provided as deemed appropriate, to be fair and reasonable?

Also, as mentioned above, Harry's 'wants' are not relevant to national security.

One reason he sited about not staying in residence was the only exit was visible so that was considered not good enough.

If you're referring to St James's Palace that was yet another of Harry's lies, @Bigcat25 ... yes there's a main gate, but a 5 second google shows there are also several other entrances

Harry with his imperious attitude and these law suits in the UK (all of them) + Meghan with her "buy the essence of me, mediocrity packaged to look expensive" = two people unable and unwilling to accept that they're not important people, and they have special to offer.

99.9% of the world's population fall into that category. But they want and need to be in that 0.1%, and are fighting tooth and nail to make everyone else see them as such and treat them as such despite having nothing to warrant being in that 0.1%.

It's depressing, frankly. The world is on fire, and these two are prattling on about needing armed security to "be safe" and being a girl boss via the medium of jam and dried flower sprinkles.

{I'm a regular poster, just did my biannual name change}.

Yes I do think it's reasonable, I don't agree with Harry in any way. I think he's ridiculous for many reasons.

It doesn't matter what Harry 'sites'. He hasn't got a clue. RAVEC have an excellent record in keeping people safe and he does not get to tell them what to do.

I suspect tge reason he doesn't want to stay in Royal residences is that he would have to submit to being searched and to his phone being confiscated.

He also wouldn't want to have to cooperate with 'them' and let 'them' know his movements in advance and so on.

I think ending the lease on Frogmore was a very smart move. He and his wife are a security risk.

Harry would have no objection to a bespoke arrangement that gave him what he wants. He's throwing his toys out of his pram because he didn't get his own way.

Exactly! On his trips back to the UK has anyone seen him queuing at passport control or at security in departures, carrying a couple of 100ml bottles and putting his belt into a plastic tray? He's hardly been treated like Joe Public, when he and his Mrs have been here they've tended to be on private planes, never saw them on the bus out to the plane!

Things are not going well in H&M Land. Sentebale and the Charity Commission. Appealing Ravec's decision on his security. Launching a global brand on the eve of a global recession.

That's probably what it was, couldn't be bothered to look it up. And yes I'm sure every palace would have multiple entrances. He really is such a liar!

Quite but only the bits he likes!

It was all very tedious this morning - lots of references to pages and skeletons. Harry was looking at his phone at times with Megs saying " you go babe" while shitting herself at the same time of the prospect of having to visit the UK ( she won't) or letting H take the kids to the UK. Hmmmm...

Ok I did look it up and remembered wrong. It's that the entrances are visible to the public, not that there's only one.

He will have had IPP status in the past when travelling as a representative of the head of state. As I said upthread, he thinks he's entitled to things that are normal in his family, and can't understand that his family members get them because they are heads of state!

Well he’s an even bigger idiot then !
hotel entrances are visible to the public, even the back ones have people hanging around.🙄

Yes. I suspect she won't have the children in the UK as she scared either the Crown (being paranoid) or Harry (if the relationship breaks down) won't come back with them.

FWIW I don't think that would ever happen, the King and POW would not watch the children separated from their mother and would probably read Harry the riot act if he wanted to try it.

I think she would come to the UK, and she would allow the children to come to the UK if she would get something out of it, money or a PR bump.

But when has Harry traveled solo representing the head of state?
the only time I’m aware of was the Australia visit with Meghan , and that apparently wasn’t the stonking success we were told!
how would that have given him the idea he had IPP status?

This is annoying. Costing taxpayers with all
this stuff.

Simply representing the monarch does not grant IPP status. Sure, the country being visited would provide security for the duration of the trip, but no other country would be obliged to do the same, as would be the case if an individual has IPP status.

As I mentioned above, even in Britain Harry never belonged to RAVEC's "Tier 1" category whereby he would be guaranteed security regardless of risk assessment, so foreign countries definitely wouldn't be obliged to provide him with security any time he rocked up on their shores.