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Sentebale #5

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glitterturd · 03/04/2025 23:41

As I finished the last one.

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TheAutumnCrow · 03/04/2025 23:48

I don't think I'll ever catch up on Thread #4, @glitterturd! I'll have a quick read of it, and see you soon.

What were your highlights from the latter part of it?

MissRoseDurward · 04/04/2025 00:09

Just checking in so I'll be able to find the thread in the morning.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/04/2025 00:40

Thanks for the new thread @glitterturd

BasiliskStare · 04/04/2025 01:18

Just to ref post from last thread - OK it's Invictus not Sentebale but this from a BBC website last July

"Financially struggling Birmingham City Council said a "new delivery model", developed with partners, required "no financial input" on its part.
Helen Helliwell, chief executive of Invictus Games Birmingham 2027, said the games would be paid for by "central government funding, so we've got a full government underwrite" through the Office for Veterans' Affairs.
But she added "actually, really importantly, I want the money to come from the private sector, so I've been working hard to secure six founding partners".

I don't know any update to this. I wonder if Harry has put effort into finding private funding. I hope Birmingham won't have to pay - equally I don't think to say central gov. will pay is the answer.

Anyway not Sentebale - but connected to Harry and fundraising.

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 03:17

Dinglydelll · 04/04/2025 01:52

Just watched this - found it deeply insighful.

Yes. The panel found her highly credible. One panel member was VERY impressed by SC.

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 03:24

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 03:17

Yes. The panel found her highly credible. One panel member was VERY impressed by SC.

Chase Hughes hates Meghan so I'm not surprised, Scott Rouse also isn't a fan but I do think their analysis is accurate.
On the subject of H&M doing a reality show, are they interesting enough, these type of programmes (I'm thinking of the Osbornes ) usually have big characters with actual personalities, H&M come across as very bland .

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/04/2025 06:56

The problem with this for Harry is that things may settle down for a while but the commission report is going to be hanging over him. It's not a quick process so it will be brought up again and again in the press.

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 07:33

I have seen this on X this morning and think it’s important to share it with you guys. Just in case anyone is thinking of checking out the As Ever website. It looks like a pp on a previous thread was right. It’s all about harvesting data and tracking. Any website related to the Sussexes needs to be avoided.

x.com/BarkJack_/status/1907917492770763112

Weepixie · 04/04/2025 07:49

@MummyJ12 what do they do with the data they collect and track?

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/04/2025 07:50

One of the most interesting things to come out of this debacle for me, is how it's comprehensively destroyed the brand that the Sussexes painstakingly fashioned for themselves after Megxit.

In the Oprah interview, the Netflix doc and countless other interviews, H&M went to considerable lengths to position themselves as Outsiders: brave truth tellers calling out the racist and colonialist old hegemony as exemplified by the Royal Family. Moreover, they were bravely taking on the rabid dogs of war which the old Establishment would unleash to shore up its power, symbolised, in H&M's telling, by the British tabloid media.

The talking heads they chose for their Netflix docu were almost all Progressive scholars and activists whose living is made by 'dismantling' the power structures of the Establishment (or 'white supremacy' as they would have it).

What SC has done is to comprehensively destroy any credibility that that Brave Outsider narrative might once have had for H&M fans. She has shown that Harry remains and wants to remain an integral part of the Establishment, as exemplified by his desire to keep Sentebale as a cosy posh boys' polo club, and also by his tendency to imperious and nasty emails demanding that his will be done.

Meghan too is a part of that Establishment, thoughtlessly throwing charity events into confusion by turning up unexpectedly with an A lister in tow (a logistical nightmare without prior notice, as anyone who's ever organised large scale public events will know), and publicly treating a high-status Black woman like a mediocre functionary onstage.

And both Meghan and Harry are perfectly comfortable unleashing the dogs of war in both legacy and new media - as long as those dogs will do their bidding.

Like many on this thread, I never believed H&M's post-Megxit Outsider positioning. But millions did and it won them countless new fans. Now, that facade has been torn down and a nastier, far less palatable pair have been revealed.

NewAgeNewMe · 04/04/2025 07:58

Thank you @GiveMeSpanakopita interesting.

do you think they will be able to weather it? They do have fans after all to do their bidding and I think Charles may be working behind the scenes to try and lessen Harry’s exposure. I doubt William would tbh.

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 07:59

Weepixie · 04/04/2025 07:49

@MummyJ12 what do they do with the data they collect and track?

They either sell or share with other companies for targeted advertising.

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 08:03

I really hope that SC has the receipts (as they say) there is talk about her pushing her way into being the Chair of Sentebale which doesn't show her in a good light.

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 08:04

Weepixie · 04/04/2025 07:49

@MummyJ12 what do they do with the data they collect and track?

They use it to follow where the user goes next but they also sell it on to other companies. It can make them more money than the products!

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 08:05

Thanks @Profhilodisaster you beat me to it 😊

RanyaJerodung · 04/04/2025 08:07

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 07:33

I have seen this on X this morning and think it’s important to share it with you guys. Just in case anyone is thinking of checking out the As Ever website. It looks like a pp on a previous thread was right. It’s all about harvesting data and tracking. Any website related to the Sussexes needs to be avoided.

x.com/BarkJack_/status/1907917492770763112

Thank you for this.

Tourist29 · 04/04/2025 08:07

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/04/2025 07:50

One of the most interesting things to come out of this debacle for me, is how it's comprehensively destroyed the brand that the Sussexes painstakingly fashioned for themselves after Megxit.

In the Oprah interview, the Netflix doc and countless other interviews, H&M went to considerable lengths to position themselves as Outsiders: brave truth tellers calling out the racist and colonialist old hegemony as exemplified by the Royal Family. Moreover, they were bravely taking on the rabid dogs of war which the old Establishment would unleash to shore up its power, symbolised, in H&M's telling, by the British tabloid media.

The talking heads they chose for their Netflix docu were almost all Progressive scholars and activists whose living is made by 'dismantling' the power structures of the Establishment (or 'white supremacy' as they would have it).

What SC has done is to comprehensively destroy any credibility that that Brave Outsider narrative might once have had for H&M fans. She has shown that Harry remains and wants to remain an integral part of the Establishment, as exemplified by his desire to keep Sentebale as a cosy posh boys' polo club, and also by his tendency to imperious and nasty emails demanding that his will be done.

Meghan too is a part of that Establishment, thoughtlessly throwing charity events into confusion by turning up unexpectedly with an A lister in tow (a logistical nightmare without prior notice, as anyone who's ever organised large scale public events will know), and publicly treating a high-status Black woman like a mediocre functionary onstage.

And both Meghan and Harry are perfectly comfortable unleashing the dogs of war in both legacy and new media - as long as those dogs will do their bidding.

Like many on this thread, I never believed H&M's post-Megxit Outsider positioning. But millions did and it won them countless new fans. Now, that facade has been torn down and a nastier, far less palatable pair have been revealed.

Keep waiting for Oprah to speak…

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/04/2025 08:11

NewAgeNewMe · 04/04/2025 07:58

Thank you @GiveMeSpanakopita interesting.

do you think they will be able to weather it? They do have fans after all to do their bidding and I think Charles may be working behind the scenes to try and lessen Harry’s exposure. I doubt William would tbh.

I don't know. Their core fanbase is very disparate in identity and a good portion of their fans are only fans because they dislike the British RF. That's not enough to parley a good career.

Meghan still has a following among millennial African American women, but they tend to dislike Harry and think Meghan would be better off without him. (And not all AA women like her; many see her as a colorist who was happy to identify as white until it suited her not to be.)

I don't think Harry himself has much of a fanbase anymore, anywhere. When we look at the Sussex marriage, Meghan has been the net beneficiary. Harry has lost. A lot. An unbelievable amount.

His charitable work was about the only positive thing left that any remaining fans could point to. His fight against the tabloids (don't get me started on what I think about that) used to win him support amongst the snobbier hard-of-thinking Progressive Left in the UK, but all that's gone for a burton now that SC has revealed that Harry uses the exact same cruel and underhand media tactics against SC that he's claimed the Palace used against him and his wife.

If I were advising Harry I'd tell him to take a year off and spend it in Botswana, helping build a school and integrating with a local community rather than just being a white saviour. Learn the language PROPERLY. Be in receive mode for a year and just LISTEN. No cameras. Just make himself USEFUL. Rather than poncing around dispensing platitudes that no one believes any more. Get PROPER therapy, DBT ideally. Also spend 12 months without a drink or a spliff. Then decide what you want to do next.

I wouldn't ever advise Meghan, not even for an eye wateringly whopping retainer. If Jason Knauf couldn't do it, then no one can. If I had one piece of advice for her? Keep flogging that fruit spread, girl!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/04/2025 08:18

BasiliskStare · 04/04/2025 01:18

Just to ref post from last thread - OK it's Invictus not Sentebale but this from a BBC website last July

"Financially struggling Birmingham City Council said a "new delivery model", developed with partners, required "no financial input" on its part.
Helen Helliwell, chief executive of Invictus Games Birmingham 2027, said the games would be paid for by "central government funding, so we've got a full government underwrite" through the Office for Veterans' Affairs.
But she added "actually, really importantly, I want the money to come from the private sector, so I've been working hard to secure six founding partners".

I don't know any update to this. I wonder if Harry has put effort into finding private funding. I hope Birmingham won't have to pay - equally I don't think to say central gov. will pay is the answer.

Anyway not Sentebale - but connected to Harry and fundraising.

With Harry's credibility in the toilet I'd be amazed if there's much private funding to be had for this now, and even more amazed if Birmingham council were capable of sourcing it

Their entire ethos tends to be that money comes from "somewhere else" - usually the public - which leads me to think Harry may be an ideal employee if everything else dries up for him Wink

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 08:24

Personally, I don't think even the SS really care that much about them , they are just a useful vehicle to hide behind and an excuse to viciously troll others.

NewAgeNewMe · 04/04/2025 08:34

Thank you @GiveMeSpanakopita

PullTheBricksDown · 04/04/2025 08:45

Reports about Birmingham council's financial situation and the bin strike and so on have not been good. As things stand I don't see how they can contribute funding towards anything like Invictus, even though it's a good cause, when they don't have money to run core services. Likewise it would look terrible for central government to pay for this when they're cutting disabled people's benefits and more. It's another timing / image problem, with everything else going on, and sadly it's Invictus that will suffer.

Dinglydelll · 04/04/2025 08:48

Tourist29 · 04/04/2025 08:07

Keep waiting for Oprah to speak…

She wont - she is busy keeping her eyes on her long term investment - she will get MM divorce interview $$$. OW has no moral compass just a commercial one.

The day after HMTLQ death she saw the way the world responded and she scheduled a one off interview with her mate Gayle King where she tried to rinse herself clean of the 'bombshell' interview - claimed she had zero clue what would be said etc, caught off guard (it wasnt live! and was heavily edited - so she chose what to include!) - she took the opportunity on the morning after the Queens death to clean her own reputation and talk herself to preserve her $$$$ once she realised she was on the wrong side of history by backing the wrong horse. The OW interview was broadcast when Prince Phillip was in the final weeks of his life on end of life care - it must have been horrific for the Queen and her children to endure that global onslaught from their grandson at that time.

Dinglydelll · 04/04/2025 08:54

PullTheBricksDown · 04/04/2025 08:45

Reports about Birmingham council's financial situation and the bin strike and so on have not been good. As things stand I don't see how they can contribute funding towards anything like Invictus, even though it's a good cause, when they don't have money to run core services. Likewise it would look terrible for central government to pay for this when they're cutting disabled people's benefits and more. It's another timing / image problem, with everything else going on, and sadly it's Invictus that will suffer.

Can you imagine if they funded it and then, MM, As Ever, hijacked it as her HNW lux fashion show for her brand / commerical gain as she has done to date - with rats running around the streets?

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