Sentebale #5

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As I finished the last one.

I'm not sure the Birmingham rats would want to be associated with markle!

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Oprah is as merciless as they come. She'll do whatever is in her best financial interests.

I can't help but wonder whether Harry feels badly about that interview and the timings of it with the end of his grandparents lives. Familial guilt is horrible. I would love a window into his mind to know what his regrets are and why.

[Oprah] tried to rinse herself clean of the 'bombshell' interview - claimed she had zero clue what would be said etc, caught off guard

Doesn't really make her look any better. Someone of her experience shouldn't be caught off guard. A bit of prior fact checking would have immediately shown up some of M's porkies and must have raised questions about her general credibility.

@MaggieMistletoe I wonder what his answer would be if he was asked the question 'If you could turn back time, would you do anything differently?'

Oprah is as merciless as they come. She'll do whatever is in her best financial interests.
Totally irrelevant but a billionaire still chasing money making schemes is so distasteful. Never enough for some and the wannabe's like markle.
I truly don't believe harry feels any regret or guilt, he is so deluded and empty.

Oh I think they care. I think you're underestimating the extremes to which delusions of a parasocial relationship with a celebrity can go. And the extent to which the sunk cost fallacy will push individuals into insisting ever more forcefully that they are on the right side of history, employing ever more vicious rhetoric and tactics to make their point.

I also think we shouldn't underestimate the strength of the 'legitimate' (ie traditional) PR campaign that Harry is pursuing in this debacle. Using Rayner as his mouthpiece was a disaster, but employing the Tory peer and other unnamed insiders to smear SC as 'dictatorial' and wasteful in spending money on consultants, has undoubtedly gained some traction. It's one of the oldest dirty tricks in the PR book, involving the ad verecundiam fallacy: get someone authoritative sounding to smear your opponent as a person, so that the opponent's arguments won't be taken seriously. And put enough distance between that authority figure and yourself to appear to keep your hands clean.

These are all really nasty, old PR tactics. The kind of thing that Alastair Osborne (a truly sinister and amoral individual) used to employ, and it's been everywhere since last Friday. Not terribly well hidden either, which is what does surprise me - the extent to which Harry is blatantly willing to attack HIS OWN CHARITY AND THE BENEFICIARIES in order to win a PR war. You could make a decent moral case that what Harry's doing is actually several degrees worse than what he accused the Palace of doing in Spare.

If not protecting Meghan from 'racist media'* is morally wrong, then how much worse is launching media briefings that could sink a charity that was set up to help vulnerable people?

It really is one of the most destructive slash n burn strategies I've seen in quite a while. I would almost describe it as warped.

*The British media was NEVER ONCE racist against Meghan and I will die on that hill waving my receipts.

If asked any probing questions, Harry would act like a cornered rat. Attack is the best form of defence and all that. Meghan would easily subdue the interviewer with an avalanche of word salad.

Oh my god, @GiveMeSpanakopita thank you so much for that.
The more I read and hear about how Harry behaves, the more disgusted I am.

Meghan too is a part of that Establishment, thoughtlessly throwing charity events into confusion by turning up unexpectedly with an A lister in tow (a logistical nightmare without prior notice, as anyone who's ever organised large scale public events will know), and publicly treating a high-status Black woman like a mediocre functionary onstage.

@GiveMeSpanakopita I don't know why, but this part of your post is giving me hot flashbacks to the 5 years I spent being chair, secretary, chief events organiser, legal counsel, barkeeper, stock woman, person in charge of all the heavily lifting (actual and metaphorical) and chief clean up officer for my kids' PTA. All roles rolled into one, because hardly anybody else would do any of it. Thank goodness my numerate friends agreed to be the treasurer, otherwise I would have been screwed! I can't count the number of times, after begging for volunteers, the Alpha MM types would turn up on the day (once most of the work was done) to grace us with their 20 minutes of "help", and completely rip up my risk assessment and careful financial planning - and give a tinkly laugh and eye roll about the whole thing and how uptight I was being. The stuff that happened to Sophie Chandauka goes on at a small scale at every level of volunteering. I'm surprised anyone is surprised.

Like everything else with public finances, whatever they spend will probably be said to have come from "a different pot" which was "ringfenced" for the purpose, though it's still public money and could certainly be allocated differently if the will was there

You're right that Invictus will be the main losers though, but I have to wonder how much that'll matter to Harry any more when he has much graver problems to deal with now

Not terribly well hidden either, which is what does surprise me - the extent to which Harry is blatantly willing to attack HIS OWN CHARITY AND THE BENEFICIARIES in order to win a PR war.

@GiveMeSpanakopita Is he willing to destroy it because he doesn't actually care about the people it helps?* It's just a vehicle to keep his ego inflated and give himself a sense of control over something, and if he can't use it for those purposes, then nobody else can have it. SC said that he was willing to harm the funding stream through briefing against her with sponsors. He'd rather the charity fail in order to wrestle control from her, than let it succeed without him.

*I'm mindful of the little girl he said he would help. I'm sure I read that he said this for PR, but never did go back to help the little girl or even see how she was doing.

I don't see how central government can justify spunking £26m on Invictus when they are demanding the most vulnerable in our society to tighten their belts even more. And that £26m would surely be better spent if targeted to making the everyday lives of veterans better in terms of health and housing, rather than on these games, which frankly don't have enough reach or interest to help more than a handful of those who can afford to self fund to take part.

Plus, Invictus seems to me to have been taken over for the benefit of Harry and Meghan's self promotion.

Oprah has always been racist and she thought she had hit the jackpot.

If you watch The Behavior Panel link above they coem up with a neat possibility. PH will do anything to get rid of SC as his fragile and bloated ego has been piqued - so he is enraged......but he believes that he can set alight to the house but then come in as the white knight saviour. The analogy they give is that he's the arsonist that turns up with the hose.

They also predict that PW or KC3 could swoop in and save the charity - as it was actually founded by the Royal Foundation and then given to PH and the RF still donate. I dont think this would be a good look for PW or KC3 - they could underwrite it financially but not be a patron.

Do we know who 'Brian' is? The person PH wanted on the board?

DARVO - Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender is the classic MO of any abuser when called out on their actions.

I hope Brian is a nickname for the nipple oaf - Alex Wossisname - a most worthy and upstanding fellow no doubt…

I don't see how central government can justify spunking £26m on Invictus when they are demanding the most vulnerable in our society to tighten their belts even more

Clearly they can't justify it by any normal standards, @RandyRedHumpback, but if they want to spend it then I'm pretty confident that's exactly what'll happen

And you're right as ever about the disgraceful PR tactics and the cost to Harry's charities, @GiveMeSpanakopita, but in any contest between someone else's needs and his own I'd always expect the latter to come first - the real pity being that he doesn't appear to possess the wit to understand how this looks and probably wouldn't care even if he did

Not terribly well hidden either, which is what does surprise me - the extent to which Harry is blatantly willing to attack HIS OWN CHARITY AND THE BENEFICIARIES in order to win a PR war

That struck me from the start @GiveMeSpanakopita , even in his statement announcing his resignation. I didn't understand his logic in mass resignation whilst claiming to want to protect the charity. You have explained and clarified things for me on these threads. Thank you.

There is so much of significance in these events. You can see it as a future study unit in many academic fields in the future.

Not terribly well hidden either, which is what does surprise me - the extent to which Harry is blatantly willing to attack HIS OWN FAMILY AND COUNTRY in order to win a PR war when he doesnt get what he wants.

The rage attack and then the flounce - we've seen this all before

@Dinglydelll I have just finished watching the Behaviour Panel. That is very true actually: the arsonist who comes back with the hose is an excellent analogy. He tried to do the same with the RF when he left, didn't he? Thought he could destroy it, then graciously agree to return to show them all the errors of their ways and work for them on his terms. That didn't work, and I don't think he will ever be able to return to Sentebale either after this. He'd absolutely deluded.

Does anyone know who Ian Sexton is ? He seems to be embroiled with the SS. He works for Tickr and I'm wondering if he's responsible for all the alleged bots on MM's instagram

Absolutely - Oprah should have known better than to allow that debacle to go ahead - I'm assuming they don't rub shoulders any longer

Very interesting! Thank you.