Sentebale #5

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As I finished the last one.

I still think it's appalling that MNHQ allowed all those Kate threads to stand, with vile things said about both W&C. Couldn't they see that it was a campaign? It was certainly obvious to many of us looking on

@MissRoseDurward I couldn’t agree more; it was utterly sickening and put MN in a very poor light but I guess clicks were more important to MnHQ than demonstrating a modicum of integrity.

I suspect that Harry’s desperate floundering around and getting his mates to do his dirty work or praise his actions will continue as there’s very little else he can do. His reputation is in the mud and Meghan’s sickening drive for self-advancement and pushing herself in where, quite frankly, she’s got no right to be will continue until someone slaps her down once and for all.
It’s astonishing that between the pair of them that there’s absolutely no self-awareness of how they come across to the majority of people.

They see all the criticism when looking at the internet and media posts in their 'war room'. How can they not take some of it onboard?
Must be fabulous to have the hubris that they are so in the right and everyone else is wrong

I've posted this before I think , but here Warren Buffet paraphrasing an earlier usage of the phrase

It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently.

Or have had other people guard your reputation for you perhaps

I actually had to leave the site until it was over!
reports ignored , not enough of us to shut it down, it was awful!

I don’t wish ill of the present King. But I do miss the strength of character of the late Queen.
Charles waited a long time for the job, and since he took over it all seems to be difficult to manage. Obviously, he has health issues and while Camilla is accepted now I doubt few people think of her when they hear the words ‘the Queen’ anywhere.
I doubt Charles would leave the throne, but if he did, I would love to see what William do next.
It would be great to see him clear the decks, and put the grifters out to grass. And obviously Catherine becoming Queen would be pretty iconic.
What are H&M going to be doing in 10 years time? They have absolutely no game plan, they are all over the place. Honestly, Amanda Holden’s QVC range has more depth. Packet crepe mix is not going to make anyone a billionaire.

‘The mass resignation can be seen in one of two ways - either as a tactic to try to force SC out, which is bloody high stakes, or because the resignees know that there exists documentation which might paint their stewardship of the charity in a less than favourable light. ‘

Can I offer a third possibility ? I think that a good many of the trustees just didn’t want ( or think it was worth) the trouble of remaining in office. Associating with Harry is probably not the privilege it originally was, the African charity scene is changing and then the prospect of bad feeling and arguments….no thanks.

An interesting move is William's recent decision to use a different law firm. Someone on Palace Confidential says this new firm has a great reputation for client confidentiality.

There's an interesting parallel to what is happening to Sophie C with the Sussex Squad, and what happened to Sasha Exeter. Exeter was the woman of colour who had the spat with Jessica Mulroney during the height of BLM, which ultimately led to MM breaking ties with her (in public, anyway). Now whether Exeter had any justification going after Mulroney, your would have thought that the SS, made up of many women of colour, would have taken the side of Exeter. This wasn't the case, though. They went after her viciously, and defended Meghan's old friend. The Vintage Read has done some excellent research on the SS, and the beginnings of it - which goes much further back than "Megxit" and originates from before we were told H&M were together, with an account that targeted Princess Catherine.

Edited SPAG

And they immediately took down a thread set up preciselt to discuss the Sussex Squad. I've not seen the poster who started it back here since.

It is no coincidence that Sophie Chandauka worked at Meta (which owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp). The Sussexes actively courted individuals in the social media sector to manipulate online coverage...favorable for themselves and highly unfavorable for any "enemies".

And we know online coverage can be manipulated...Mark Zuckerberg wrote a letter to the House Judiciary Committee stating that he acceded to pressure from the government to censure certain topics. (FYI: The House Judiciary Committee is a sub-committee in the US House of Representatives, the "lower" chamber in the U.S. Congress.)
Zuckerberg says he regrets not being more outspoken about ‘government pressure’

However, Sarah Data and others have had to leave their jobs as their activities were uncovered as they were violating rules around foreign policy. Foreign policy can only emanate from the Office of the US President, and interference in foreign policy, i.e. attacking the ruling family of an allied nation becomes very tricky indeed. I suspect that the Google and Facebook SS squaddies were encouraged to leave to prevent legal issues for the parent companies (Alphabet and Meta respectively).

This is Dan Wooten's investigation on the Sussex Squad. I can't stand the bloke, but he has some interesting findings and personal experience.

That's interesting @Rhaidimiddim . MN let the threads started about the ByLine Times investigation of Dan Wooten stand. They were the ones who joined with Sara Data (allegedly) to go after Dan Wooten with allegations that he had acted criminally. The police investigated and found there was no case for DW to answer. I believe he's received a settlement from the Guardian for defamatory stuff they printed about him off the back of the Byline times articles.

BTW, the above video covers Data, Boozy and Sexton.

It really has a feel of the Will Smith and Jada marriage, Will Smith trying to prove to the world how much he is devoted to his wife by slapping Chris Rock in the face while Jada looks impassively on, it screams of someone who is deeply insecure in the marriage and I think Harry feels like that, although he is dim he must realise Meghan holds all the cards and could destroy him in an instant if she so chooses, therefore he has to be her defender in chief, look Meghan, look how much I love you. It didn’t work for Will and it won’t work for Harry either.

Maybe....but if that were the case then they'd stagger their resignations, be involved in the replacement search and do handover periods.

Resigning all at once is dramatic and intended to be a damaging statement...for all they knew, it could have pushed the entire charity over the edge.

If the world of charity boards is anything like the private sector world I know, they were all well over their maximum nine year term which doesn't suggest that high standards of governance and best practice were something that kept them up at night until SC got the chair.

Which is why I tend to see it as either an act of all out war, or a rush for the exit before the big bad Charity Commission hung them out to dry.

No. They'd know that every minute would be recorded in some way in case she needed more money do had to write a book.

Thanks @RandyRedHumpback . I'm not a Dan Wooton fan either but he's certainly got a lot of info and receipts.

It beggars belief that adult humans who allegedly have careers can be so positively invested in two people who couldn't care less about them, to the extent of this behaviour. Their motives are very strange and with the persecution of SC and Setebale the fig leaf that they are somehow opposing racism has thoroughly fallen.

The former trustees are under Charity Commission investigation along with the current, new trustees. They are still in the frame legally for what happened on their watch. If they resigned en masse thinking they would escape, it just shows they weren't taking their responsibilities as trustees seriously. Linda Chalker, at the very least, must understand this. If there has been financial impropriety, they will be very worried at the moment.

Those Kate threads were unbelievable. And to think prior to all that I had a post deleted… because I suggested Harry had had a hair transplant 🤷‍♀️

I wonder whether the Charity Commission is looking to investigate whether Harry was a shadow/de facto trustee (i.e. someone in accordance with whose instructions the board of trustees tended to act)? Could make things interesting if so, as it would mean he can’t step away from this on the basis he was “just” a patron

And on the Kate threads - something that bemused me at the time, and still does, was how many longstanding posters joined in on them along with all the new posters/new names - and then they all just disappeared entirely once the cancer announcement came out. The long-standing posters too. It was just really odd.

They were absolutely vile. One after the other. The most lurid and offensive posts.
I can't believe you were deleted for that! There's just no comparison.

Although the common line is that Chelsey Davey and Crrssida Bonas broke made Harry a Haz-been, I think there was another reason: they understood how emotionally needy he is and were mature enough to see that being married to him would be very, very hard work. Brother Wills looks as though he has his moments, raging and needing Catherine to soothe him, but he comes across as quite self-contained and able to manage himself emotionally. Harry by contrast is emotionally incontinent.

I do wonder if there's a bigger agenda, with a lot of these people (probably finding some joy in being part of a community, even a heinous one) being useful idiots within the campaign for online censorship by the people pulling their strings. Which would tie in with the aims of the Aspen Institute and the Parent Network, Harry's Anti First Amendment (which he does not understand at all) interest groups. It's all quite fascinating and a bit tin foil hat, but then you see what was revealed in the Twitter Files and you think, well maybe the dots can be joined.

Interesting. Is the Charity Commission able to do that? Without trustee status, there would presumably need to be evidence that Harry personally broke the law ie using charity funds to fund his and Meghan's lifestyle.