Sentebale #4

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Harry

The racial slurs which are being hurled at Trevor Phillips by Sussex fans, are some of the worst I have seen, some of them I had never even heard of before.

Harry and Meghan have an awful lot to answer for..

Oh I completely agree. It used to be a right pain before they fixed it. But accidentally forgetting to change your name back to the one you had started posting with on a thread, and deliberately changing your name to confuse/ support yourself and admitting you did this are two entirely different things. And to suffer no consequences for doing so when MN issues bans and deletions on this board left, right and centre for minor matters is pretty galling for the rest of us who make an effort to mind how we go and observe the posting guidelines. As a previously banned poster, I am not sure why the mods treated this poster with such leniency for such a flagrant and serious infraction of the guidelines. Perhaps they thought she was just a bit mischievous?

It was a brief suspension for suggesting ulterior motives—such as a professional engagement in supporting the RF—something I now regret. I’ve already apologized to MHNQ and, belatedly (now), to Serenester.

Forgiveness is a Christian virtue. Hopefully, both the current and future heads of the Church of England will bear that in mind.

Ironically, H/Haz/Harold/Harry might have been better off at Gordonstoun. It didn't suit Charles (although I don't think Prince Philip sent him there out of cruelty)

At a previous school the founder, Kurt Hahn, included this in the statement about the ethos he wanted to create.

"Free the sons of the wealthy and powerful from the enervating sense of privilege."

Might have helped.

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That's awful. Hasn't he always stuck up for MM? They have very short memories, these squaddies. He's certainly not the first to be on the receiving end, and a number of journalists are finally speaking openly about the SS and their activities (eg doxxing, threatening with violence). I hope Sir Trevor does so too.

At Trevor! But not long ago he publicly supported Meghan ! ( which dropped him in my opinion slightly!)
why is he getting abuse?

Right, so having been told that by MN and banned, you went on to break the guidelines again with sock puppeting. What are you trying to prove here?

This is why the monarchy should really only stay in their lane & not be given enough of a platform or any other real involvement in political/global/corporate affairs because despite presenting a veneer of being humble, noble public servants - they patently are not. They don’t have the intelligence (well Harrry & others most certainly don’t - Andrew for eg) nor the experience, restraint or diplomacy required to operate in any way other than figureheads who support & represent charitable causes etc but who are given no real scope to interfere/run things. Hence why the less they do or say anything publicly that’s not been scripted for them the better (as with the Queen). Harry was the spare & so has probably had less training & grooming of this kind than William but even he I doubt would have the skills required to either, with both appearing pretty hot headed & lacking in much restraint (Harry more so than William). Which is why their demands for autonomy & refusal to play by any established rules & accept their station in life (& their own shortcomings) is being so excruciatingly drawn out at every turn & causing the car crashes that we are all so unable to disinvest from!

@AtIusvue?? Can you bump the Sophie news article where she’s been hounded off twitter?
I need to post it on another thread as apparently they need proof!

As I’ve said before, I got carried away and resorted to less-than-salubrious methods to make my arguments. On the thread that led to my suspension (not a ban—that seems reserved for truly heinous offenders), I was criticizing Andrew—something we can probably all agree on.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14558071/prince-harry-boss-sentebale-charity-shuts-social-media-trolled.html

Yes - I think that Harry would have done better at a school that was less of an academic hothouse and where he felt compared to William/other more academic kids. Gordonstoun might have been an option or that posh school in Wales (Atlantic College) where the European Royals send their kids that has lots of outdoor activities and charity work on the curriculum.

As Harry was one of the oldest in his school year (he turned 13 just a couple of weeks after Diana's death in that September. They could have taken that year to decide where to send him if he wasn't coping rather than throw him into Eton and expect William (with his own grief) to be a parental figure and look after him.

Harry must have been aware that he was not University material compared to the other boys - Eton even had to resort to cheating to get him through a 2nd A-level (Art) so that he could meet the minimum entrance requirements for Sandhurst.

This has echos of the racists who stabbed to death Stephen Lawrence being described as 'lovable rogues' by thier apologists.

Forgiveness is a Christian virtue. Hopefully, both the current and future heads of the Church of England will bear that in mind.

If you read the Bible, forgiveness comes after repentance.

Rousette is still here under a new name. MrsMax - gone but I always believed they were Omid Scobie ejoying the bantz whilst writing his book.

They didn't "throw" him into Eton. They thought it best to go to school with William, and it's near to Windsor Castle.

I remember those days with a shudder. There was some bizarre moderating going on.

I did nothing of the sort these are your aspersions based on nothing that I have posted.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14558071/prince-harry-boss-sentebale-charity-shuts-social-media-trolled.html

SC is indeed a highly experience high level executive and corporate lawyer. She has also responded to the accusations in a professional manner and has been hounded for her role. However, none of this automatically means she did a good job chairing board, the direction she steered the charity was the best one, or that she is expert in charity law. She should not have commissioned expensive consultants without the approval of the rest of the board. If she did convince the board then that level of spend, whilst it may seem cheap to a multinational conglomerate, is disproportionate for a smallish charity.

We come back round to the fact that we do not know enough of what happened to make judgements on Sentebale’s management and the role SC, H and others played. If the CC investigate they would have a narrow focus on this that would be interesting to read. H, however, does seem to be busy handing out shovels to as many people as he can to dig himself into an ever growing hole. This has now gone well beyond actual an management and trustee issue and if nothing else has been a PR disaster for him.

Mrs Max was always going to leave I seem to remember - both were class acts !

"bloody difficult woman" was also said of Theresa May by her colleagues.

When I say "throw" they sent him to a school that they knew he was academically unqualified for and where he would never have got a place if he wasn't the son of the Prince of Wales.

Despite such a prestigious education he only scraped a second A level because Eton cheated and forced the Art teacher to do his written work - but because he was a prince his way was smoothed into the army.

I'm not sure why the proximity to Windsor Castle is important for a boarding school. Harry's father did not live at Windsor but spent his time at Clarence House in London and Highgrove in Gloucestershire. At the time the Queen mostly lived at Buckingham Palace but spent weekends at Windsor. By all accounts it was only William who was invited to tea so that she could mentor him 1:1. Surely seeing William getting individual attention would have been worse for Harry than being at a school somewhere else playing rugby at the weekend?