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binkie163 · 02/04/2025 08:22

vera99 · 01/04/2025 21:29

Well we can speculate til the cows come home - she no doubt regarded it as a good thing and probably felt she was making a difference. There is nothing in her bio as I see it to suggest a grifter or someone seeking reflected glory from what I have superficially read, clearly the opposite.

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Who is speculating now! For those who are hard of reading, SC is a corporate lawyer for global corporations, I am sure with her experience of governance and law she knows exactly what she is doing and not just having a hissy fit or being difficult! you call a woman difficult to shut her down, we can expect that of men but shame on chalker and other toadies.
If you want to wait until the investigation is finished be my guest, until then this is a public forum 'a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged'
Go start your own thread, this one is on part 4 in as many days!
I for one have learned a lot from others on this thread who are in PR, charity and legal careers. I am an engineer and have been called difficult for the offence of being professional.

IAmATorturedPoet · 02/04/2025 08:23

jeffgoldblum · 02/04/2025 08:13

déjà vu! Is strong here.

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Yes, Isn't it!!

myrtleWilson · 02/04/2025 08:27

Was it Vera who was sock puppeting in the past?

Mightymoog · 02/04/2025 08:29

CoffeeCantata · 02/04/2025 07:24

He’s a mischievous guy and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he has a big heart, and for that, I’ll forgive him almost anything.

O wow! Someone has definitely swallowed the Kool-aid, as so many Sussex supporters like to say. Harry is a spiteful, spoilt, petty and vengeful idiot.

There really is no limit to what some people are prepared to ignore in order to maintain their almost religious faith in Harry and Meghan, is there? One of the reasons I find H & M so fascinating is the psychology of their fans. Anyone who's still standing in that demographic must be doing some serious mental and moral contortion.

TBF you could say that about anyone who likes the royal family

BunnyLake · 02/04/2025 08:33

Profhilodisaster · 02/04/2025 08:09

I just can't get over why Harry thought it a good idea to get his mate to release that awful statement on his behalf. He's a grown man fgs , why can't he speak for himself? I guess it gives him the chance to deny he gave it his approval if (when) it backfires. He really must be unwell,

His mate that calls him H? Has anyone ever heard him being called H before Meghan came along?

It did seem really odd that he ‘gave permission’ for someone to speak for him. Why the heck can’t he speak for himself?

jeffgoldblum · 02/04/2025 08:35

IAmATorturedPoet · 02/04/2025 08:23

Yes, Isn't it!!

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Thought I’d been taken back in time!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/04/2025 08:36

Lunde · 01/04/2025 22:10

TBH Charles should have never sent Harry to Eton given his limited intellectual abilities. Another school would have been a better option and given Harry the opportunity to grow up without relying on William to take care of him.

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I couldn't agree more, Lunde; apart from anything else it was hardly a kindness to Harry to expect him to function among peers so much more intellectually able

Who knows if the struggle might have fed in to his issues and deepened the obvious feelings of inadequacy he must constantly struggle against?

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:39

I self-banned a couple of years ago after a brief suspension—and the realization that I was spending an inordinate amount of time here. I did make a brief return as TheFirmBiscuit but was quickly caught out in some name-changing shenanigans. However, I’ve turned over a new leaf and will now only post under my long-standing username.

That said, I’ve continued reading this board with both pleasure and some consternation, as it now seems to be largely a bash H&M forum. I’ve noticed that when posts start trending and break out beyond this sub-board, a few familiar faces reappear—but most contrarians seem to have left the fray.

I just don’t think most people dislike this couple as much as you imagine. And all of this is fodder for the tabloids, which thrive on keeping the pot stirred. Like it or not, Harry—the prince over the water—and his actress wife are box office gold. For better or worse, in sickness and in health… until divorce do they part (maybe!).

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:39

myrtleWilson · 02/04/2025 08:27

Was it Vera who was sock puppeting in the past?

Turned a new leaf - promises made and kept !

Rhaidimiddim · 02/04/2025 08:41

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:39

I self-banned a couple of years ago after a brief suspension—and the realization that I was spending an inordinate amount of time here. I did make a brief return as TheFirmBiscuit but was quickly caught out in some name-changing shenanigans. However, I’ve turned over a new leaf and will now only post under my long-standing username.

That said, I’ve continued reading this board with both pleasure and some consternation, as it now seems to be largely a bash H&M forum. I’ve noticed that when posts start trending and break out beyond this sub-board, a few familiar faces reappear—but most contrarians seem to have left the fray.

I just don’t think most people dislike this couple as much as you imagine. And all of this is fodder for the tabloids, which thrive on keeping the pot stirred. Like it or not, Harry—the prince over the water—and his actress wife are box office gold. For better or worse, in sickness and in health… until divorce do they part (maybe!).

OK Jan!

Rhaidimiddim · 02/04/2025 08:43

The Times today.

Proper hatchet job on SC, with figures detailing all the money "she" spent on consultancy and implying that this is what left Sentebale short of money.

People BTL very much swallowing the line that she is a grifter.

Conundrumseverywhere · 02/04/2025 08:44

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:39

I self-banned a couple of years ago after a brief suspension—and the realization that I was spending an inordinate amount of time here. I did make a brief return as TheFirmBiscuit but was quickly caught out in some name-changing shenanigans. However, I’ve turned over a new leaf and will now only post under my long-standing username.

That said, I’ve continued reading this board with both pleasure and some consternation, as it now seems to be largely a bash H&M forum. I’ve noticed that when posts start trending and break out beyond this sub-board, a few familiar faces reappear—but most contrarians seem to have left the fray.

I just don’t think most people dislike this couple as much as you imagine. And all of this is fodder for the tabloids, which thrive on keeping the pot stirred. Like it or not, Harry—the prince over the water—and his actress wife are box office gold. For better or worse, in sickness and in health… until divorce do they part (maybe!).

I don’t think the vast majority of people care one jot about them and don’t follow their antics. Those that do have the full picture. I spoke to someone recently who does follow it all and she takes a very dim view. Most people think they’ve ’escaped to live their best life’ but understand none of the details, so they’re more neutral. I don’t see how any thinking person could have a positive view of them once they know the full picture.

SoNotaRealHousewife · 02/04/2025 08:44

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:39

I self-banned a couple of years ago after a brief suspension—and the realization that I was spending an inordinate amount of time here. I did make a brief return as TheFirmBiscuit but was quickly caught out in some name-changing shenanigans. However, I’ve turned over a new leaf and will now only post under my long-standing username.

That said, I’ve continued reading this board with both pleasure and some consternation, as it now seems to be largely a bash H&M forum. I’ve noticed that when posts start trending and break out beyond this sub-board, a few familiar faces reappear—but most contrarians seem to have left the fray.

I just don’t think most people dislike this couple as much as you imagine. And all of this is fodder for the tabloids, which thrive on keeping the pot stirred. Like it or not, Harry—the prince over the water—and his actress wife are box office gold. For better or worse, in sickness and in health… until divorce do they part (maybe!).

That’s smashing

CoffeeCantata · 02/04/2025 08:44

Mightymoog · 02/04/2025 08:29

TBF you could say that about anyone who likes the royal family

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I was referencing that very trope, usually knee-jerked at royalists by unoriginal critics!

I can assure you, I'm sceptical and capable of critical thinking. I'm also a constitutional monarchist - not the sort to go waving my flag, but largely happy with the status quo.

As long as the RF fulfill what we ask of them and don't do embarrassing things on official duty I'm happy with that. I don't claim they are, or need them to be, angels.

But the behaviour of Harry and Meghan has been appalling over the last few years and I will call them out to my heart's content as long as they court publicity and attention (and God knows, it's oxygen to Meghan). If they bought a ranch somewhere and lived as private citizens they'd get no negativity from me.

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:45

Rhaidimiddim · 02/04/2025 08:41

OK Jan!

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Your memory is better than mine ! But then that's not difficult.

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:50

CoffeeCantata · 02/04/2025 08:44

I was referencing that very trope, usually knee-jerked at royalists by unoriginal critics!

I can assure you, I'm sceptical and capable of critical thinking. I'm also a constitutional monarchist - not the sort to go waving my flag, but largely happy with the status quo.

As long as the RF fulfill what we ask of them and don't do embarrassing things on official duty I'm happy with that. I don't claim they are, or need them to be, angels.

But the behaviour of Harry and Meghan has been appalling over the last few years and I will call them out to my heart's content as long as they court publicity and attention (and God knows, it's oxygen to Meghan). If they bought a ranch somewhere and lived as private citizens they'd get no negativity from me.

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But they need to sing for their suppers—both are accustomed to privileged lives. Harry from birth, Meghan through talent and strategic choices, including marrying well. Given their dependence on the oxygen of publicity, silence was never really an option.

Charles, relatively speaking, is as rich as Croesus and could probably have bought their silence long ago. But he didn’t—or wouldn’t—and here we are. The long hand of infidelity stretches from the grave to the present, and there’s no escaping that.

binkie163 · 02/04/2025 08:52

vera99 · 01/04/2025 22:56

Well, this is the Royal Family board—many here believe H&M have checked out of that "august" institution. Yet, 12 of the top 15 threads are about these hapless individuals who, while certainly no saints, do not deserve the level of vitriol displayed here. Justine is right—it’s unhinged. Surely, a more noble endeavour would be to ignore them and instead highlight the achievements of those currently serving. Or maybe that's the problem.

Who says they don't deserve the level of vitriol?
Is that the same Justine that called them 'disaster tourists'
I would wager Sussex supporters online trolls are far more vitriolic, you don't see us clutching our pearls. Dr C has been forced to close her online social media due to hate speech. That will backfire spectacularly and bolster Dr C claims of bullying and racism. Also as H&M apparently fight online injustice but totally silent when it is their attack dogs doing it, that definitely has a stink to it!

jeffgoldblum · 02/04/2025 08:54

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:50

But they need to sing for their suppers—both are accustomed to privileged lives. Harry from birth, Meghan through talent and strategic choices, including marrying well. Given their dependence on the oxygen of publicity, silence was never really an option.

Charles, relatively speaking, is as rich as Croesus and could probably have bought their silence long ago. But he didn’t—or wouldn’t—and here we are. The long hand of infidelity stretches from the grave to the present, and there’s no escaping that.

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What???
I haven’t missed your random posting style.

tattychicken · 02/04/2025 08:55

The phrase "difficult woman" makes me think of this...

Weepixie · 02/04/2025 09:04

Ohpleeeease · 02/04/2025 07:35

He’s a mischievous guy and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he has a big heart, and for that, I’ll forgive him almost anything.

This sounds like a “ boys will be boys” mentality. I despair when I hear grown women coming out with this stuff. It’s naive and dopey and allows dangerous and/or incompetent men to gain power.

Yes! It sounds exactly as you’ve said - a boys will be boys mentality. I couldn’t quite put my finger on how it was coming across till I read your post.

BasiliskStare · 02/04/2025 09:05

@Thedom "They have removed the racism, misogny, Meghan jealousy and pariah comments." Which would seem to indicate even Harry realised his helpful friend hasn't been as helpful as he thought or People realised it on his behalf.

@LemonLeaves " am baffled by how unlucky the DoS is with her timing - every time she does something, it seems to encounter a hurdle. Some of which are avoidable (such as trademarking issues), but others which are beyond her control, such as the Cali wildfires and now this."
I don't think the accusations of racism and pressure from Harry are completely beyond her control. At one of their date lunches or post work catchups she could have said to Harry - please don't ask SC to put out a statement in defence of me. She could not have tried to get herself front and centre for a prize giving which had no doubt been choreographed , which led to Harry's missive. She could have suggested to Harry getting his friend to speak up in the way he has would not be helpful. So I'm a bit on the side of "you make your own luck" here.
If they just stopped putting their foot in it for an extended period of time it would have given her the space to launch her brand without it being overshadowed.

binkie163 · 02/04/2025 09:07

And therein lies the problem. When boys will be boys and those difficult women won't just ruffle their pretty little fringe, do a tinkly laugh and defer to those misogynistic twats. Shame on women who keep that subservient thinking going. Christ makes you wonder why the suffragettes bothered.

Mountainfrog · 02/04/2025 09:08

Even if SC was a tough chair, even if she was very direct and put people’s noses out of joint, even if she lead the board towards consultancies and projects which hoped to raise funds but ultimately wasted money. Even if she insisted on a transparent recruitment process which allowed her opportunity to interview. None of these things make her a bad or even incompetent person.

Then you slot in the racist comparison to an African dictator, the last minute plan changes to the polo match including a camera crew, the bossy treatment of her by Meghan, the rude and pushy behaviour of Harry demanding she defend Meghan, the irregularities of board appointments, you get a sense of what she was standing up to. And then latterly the press leaks, being represented as woke, incompetent, angry and jealous, the racist overtones of his friends intervention, the horrible online abuse by the Sussex squad.

but of course it’s Harry who is hurty heartbroken. SC has remained calm and factual throughout despite everything she’s had to contend with. She’s clearly a strong dignified woman.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/04/2025 09:08

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:50

But they need to sing for their suppers—both are accustomed to privileged lives. Harry from birth, Meghan through talent and strategic choices, including marrying well. Given their dependence on the oxygen of publicity, silence was never really an option.

Charles, relatively speaking, is as rich as Croesus and could probably have bought their silence long ago. But he didn’t—or wouldn’t—and here we are. The long hand of infidelity stretches from the grave to the present, and there’s no escaping that.

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Harry himself said that he didn’t expect to be “ financially cut off” nor did he expect his 24/7 security would cease.
Rather than get jobs and live within their means they decided to sell stories about the RF .
I agree that Harry was used to a lifetime of wealth but not Meghan who has been dependent on men to provide for her for 40+ years.

Ohpleeeease · 02/04/2025 09:12

vera99 · 02/04/2025 08:03

Absolutely not—the utter opposite. A truly vile creature in every respect. My point is this: having lurked here in times past, I noticed plenty of mischief in speculating about Trump turning on Harry over his visa and drug use. An uneasy ally at best in this so-called war, I’d say.

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Fair enough. I haven’t joined in that particular line of discussion as I think it’s a distraction.

But my point remains, mischief is not a
good thing. It’s disruptive and in Harry’s case an abuse of position. Andrew was considered “mischievous” and to my mind they are cut from the same cloth. Actually with the revelations about Virginia Guiffre Andrew has the edge.And I never thought I’d say that.