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The royal family

Sentebale no. 3

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Thedom · 31/03/2025 07:40

The ex lead Patron Its getting plenty of media coverage today.

(ps, my hash key doesn't work )

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glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:24

A kerfuffle over a photo op? 🙄

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:26

That's what you took from such an interview? Wow 😳

MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 16:26

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:24

A kerfuffle over a photo op? 🙄

Talk about minimising.

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/03/2025 16:27

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 16:19

Meanwhile, at The Royal Lodge, the sound of gentle chuckling is heard about the grounds...

Watching Harry over the years I sometimes wonder whether Andrew is silent or silenced. I suspect that he has less money than Harry and finance has been used to achieve his withdrawal from public life. Going by the little we know of his dealings recently, which is pretty awful, I think the fact he isn't careering around embarrassing everyone is proof that someone has leverage.

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2025 16:28

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:22

I agree with sweetgingercat

I am holding my fire from making up my mind completely about this issue until I know the outcome of the official enquiry.

I like to judge things as I find them and not be influenced by three threads about Sentabale full of Royalists virtually rubbing their hands with glee over the possibility that Harry may be “in trouble” again as they interpret it. It’s not a terribly edifying spectacle tbh!

I’m a Republican so no loyalties either way to the people involved.

My thoughts so far are, that I do find it strange how so many people seem to be ignoring the fact that it was far from just Harry who resigned.

Also how Linda Chalker called SC dictatorial in the FT article. Say what you like about Chalker, I don’t share her political views, but she does have a lot of experience on boards and in overseas development and aid.

And from my own observation, from the Sky interview, I didn’t find SC to be a particularly sympathetic personality. I felt that if she really was putting the charity first, and not her own profile, then she would have tackled this in a very different way. And she would have been more professional about a kerfuffle over a photo opp. So there are quite possibly mistakes on both sides, which is a crying shame for the beneficiaries.

I also thought it was rather interesting to see Gyles Brandreth and Camilla Tominey on tv being quite supportive of Harry this morning.

Gyles is friendly with the Charles and Camilla and CT usually takes a very pro-palace line, so maybe BP knows something that we don’t about the situation? Or there are similar issues within some of the RF’s charities that they don’t want to draw attention to?

Edited

If only people had held on for proof when Harry and Meghan were slinging unsubstantiated accusations around!
instead of rubbing their hands with glee and making many threads condemning the royal family for being awful and racist ( just as they always thought!) 🙄

MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 16:29

Thedom · 31/03/2025 14:57

Meghan going out on stage at Invictus opening ceremony in Vancouver was also 'last minute', wasn't planned as she herself admitted in the speech. Did she railroad Harry and the organisers again, she really has form. .

Can Invictus really go ahead in Birmingham now?

Already plenty of criticism about it, but now that its confirmed these charities are bullied by Harry and Meghan into allowing Meghan grandstand and everyone on the committee have only one option, and that is to appease Harry and Meghan or end up getting fired.

It gets worse. What atrocious behaviour.

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:29

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:24

A kerfuffle over a photo op? 🙄

Yes. If I was CEO of a charity, as a fairly anonymous executive, I wouldn’t care where I stood in the line up. I would want the photographer to capture the main most recognisable “players” in the group, to bring in as much publicity for the cause as possible.

MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 16:30

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2025 14:45

And from memory!! Harry did comment that he wanted his children to inherit invictus and I believe sentebale ! , so yes he thinks they solely belong to him !

How colonial and imperialist. Imagining his children can inherit just by birthright, not ability.

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/03/2025 16:30

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:22

I agree with sweetgingercat

I am holding my fire from making up my mind completely about this issue until I know the outcome of the official enquiry.

I like to judge things as I find them and not be influenced by three threads about Sentabale full of Royalists virtually rubbing their hands with glee over the possibility that Harry may be “in trouble” again as they interpret it. It’s not a terribly edifying spectacle tbh!

I’m a Republican so no loyalties either way to the people involved.

My thoughts so far are, that I do find it strange how so many people seem to be ignoring the fact that it was far from just Harry who resigned.

Also how Linda Chalker called SC dictatorial in the FT article. Say what you like about Chalker, I don’t share her political views, but she does have a lot of experience on boards and in overseas development and aid.

And from my own observation, from the Sky interview, I didn’t find SC to be a particularly sympathetic personality. I felt that if she really was putting the charity first, and not her own profile, then she would have tackled this in a very different way. And she would have been more professional about a kerfuffle over a photo opp. So there are quite possibly mistakes on both sides, which is a crying shame for the beneficiaries.

I also thought it was rather interesting to see Gyles Brandreth and Camilla Tominey on tv being quite supportive of Harry this morning.

Gyles is friendly with the Charles and Camilla and CT usually takes a very pro-palace line, so maybe BP knows something that we don’t about the situation? Or there are similar issues within some of the RF’s charities that they don’t want to draw attention to?

Edited

No one would know about any of this if Harry hadn't resigned publically and told the press. It would have been an internal matter that the charity commission was looking into and would have happened under the radar. The ensuing press and interviews only came about because she refused to be smeared by Harry and not complain or explain. He is reaping what he has sowed.

No one knows what the outcome of the inquiry will be, and I doubt there is fault only on one side. But the damage to Sentebele from the publicity has been done and it was done by Harry.

Serenster · 31/03/2025 16:30

Lunde · 31/03/2025 16:00

I can't find the full vid - but this is a short version - first 30 seconds

  • at first it looks like she is meant to be there rummaging in the car
  • then she is challenged and argues defensively with dark haired man
  • then a red haired guy (doesn't look like Harry) comes up and they have words and she backs away like a scalded cat
  • then there is an odd shot of her lingering suspiciously before backing away a second time

Couldn’t help but notice, but after the first 30 seconds, where the footage is of the players and their ponies, every car visible in the background is an Audi…

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 16:30

@TheAutumnCrow raised an interesting question in the previous thread. Wasn't it a major security issue for Meghan and Serena to turn up without prior notice on the day of the event. They had the changed venue, the Netflix crew, Harry & his security, and out of the blue they have to worry about Meghan and Serena. Lots of unnecessary stress for the Sentebale staff.

SatinBall · 31/03/2025 16:32

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:40

I disagree.

If the charity is to recover then potential sponsors need to understand what caused the current issues. The fact that Harry's statement and that of former trustees labelled her "difficult" with vague hints of financial impropriety was designed to deter sponsors and sabotage the charity IMHO.

It wasn't just about the polo incident - SC has reported Sentebale to the CC for failures of governance involving the board that resigned. There is a current CC investigation. SC had maintained her silence about everything until Harry went on the attack.

Exactly.

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 16:32

She’s launching As ever this week

Sentebale no. 3
MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 16:33

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:00

The place is currently experiencing major issues with rodents because of the bin strikes. How can they justify spending millions on these games to the people of Birmingham.

They can't. It's just the Sussex Show, with Meghan's Fashion thrown in. They're using it, unsurprisingly, for their own selfish ends.

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 16:34

‘Easy to make’ ‘fuss free’

Yes because it’s UPF packaged crap.

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 16:34

There's at least 5 different brands of lemon ginger tea in my local fruit stand.

Serenster · 31/03/2025 16:35

A change of venue one month out from your flagship event would be a logistical nightmare for a charity! Quite apart from all the contracts having to be re negotiated and re-signed, and the attendees being advised about the filming, there’d be re-checking everything around access, car parking, power supply, facilities, security as BemusedAmerican says, having to rewrite your risk register, notify the insurers, deal with guest communications….

The amount of work Harry casually landed on the small charity team because he wanted to use the event for Netflix is quite extraordinary.

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 16:35

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:53

TBH it looks like he is attempting to bully her into silence with hints of blackmail

So doesn't really help Harry's case

I think part of this message has got a bit confused. SC's issue with Harry during the Trevor Philips' was that he had given her no warning about making his resignation public. That doesn't preclude him having stood down privately before the press statement. Dr C was not planning to talk to the press. She had already referred the charity to the CC.

MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 16:35

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:31

Leading the Veterans Parade in flappy shorts and sliders.
Why is she leading anything at Invictus?!

sumor · 31/03/2025 16:35

My thoughts so far are, that I do find it strange how so many people seem to be ignoring the fact that it was far from just Harry who resigned.

I wondered about that but subsequently that many of them are long standing friends/family friends of the two Princes who set up the charity and thus inclined to take their part plus have been there a while and possibly dislike change.

I don't know Sophie Chandauka but suspect she may be one of those "diffcult" people that takes no prisoners and gets things done.

It was clearly Harry who put this all out in the public domain to start with - not Sophie Chandauka who come out in defence of herself and the charity. Plus from what I've read this is classic Harry and Meghan behavior - so many reports from differing sources saying similar.

So maybe there is more to come out - guess we'll see but I really think this is last thing Harry and Meghan needed.

Thedom · 31/03/2025 16:35

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:29

Yes. If I was CEO of a charity, as a fairly anonymous executive, I wouldn’t care where I stood in the line up. I would want the photographer to capture the main most recognisable “players” in the group, to bring in as much publicity for the cause as possible.

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I doubt she cared, she said the International media reported on it and then SM went haywire about how they felt she was treated .

She never said a word about it at the time or up until that interview, , even in her interview she wasn't critical of what happened. She said it was just awkward choreography.

it was Harry and Meghan who cared, who really, really, really cared, they cared enough that Harry make some very unprofessional overtures to the chair to come out in support of Meghan over something so silly.

It wasn't the choreography that was the issue, the issue was Harry admonishing her and threatening her because she wouldn't do their bidding.

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CorrectionCentre · 31/03/2025 16:36

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:29

Yes. If I was CEO of a charity, as a fairly anonymous executive, I wouldn’t care where I stood in the line up. I would want the photographer to capture the main most recognisable “players” in the group, to bring in as much publicity for the cause as possible.

Edited

The issue wasn't with the awkward "choreography" on stage, it was about the subsequent request that SC should release a statement in support of Meghan. SC declined.
A Sentebale spokesperson has cofirmed that after SC declined, PH contacted her directly to follow this up. It has been said this follow up was a demand she "explain herself" . Now we don't know that for certain but the existence of that communication has been confirmed.

Uricon2 · 31/03/2025 16:36

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2025 16:28

If only people had held on for proof when Harry and Meghan were slinging unsubstantiated accusations around!
instead of rubbing their hands with glee and making many threads condemning the royal family for being awful and racist ( just as they always thought!) 🙄

Totally this. It seems only one black woman is allowed to speak publically about being bullied, racism and misogyny in the H&M universe and it isn't Sophie Chandauka.

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:38

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/03/2025 16:30

No one would know about any of this if Harry hadn't resigned publically and told the press. It would have been an internal matter that the charity commission was looking into and would have happened under the radar. The ensuing press and interviews only came about because she refused to be smeared by Harry and not complain or explain. He is reaping what he has sowed.

No one knows what the outcome of the inquiry will be, and I doubt there is fault only on one side. But the damage to Sentebele from the publicity has been done and it was done by Harry.

I’m not sure that is true tbh. I think when the entire board of such a high profile charity resigns in unison, none of it would have gone un-noticed by the press. And the number of people resigning meant that news was more likely to leak out.

Especially when Harry and Meghan are the focus of so many news stories atm. They can’t blow their noses without a journalist commenting on whether they are doing it correctly or not!

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