Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Sentebale no. 3

1000 replies

Thedom · 31/03/2025 07:40

The ex lead Patron Its getting plenty of media coverage today.

(ps, my hash key doesn't work )

OP posts:
Thread gallery
37
Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:48

Mightymoog · 31/03/2025 14:31

even worse, it was apparently Willaim's car

That video of her going through the car was hilarious - especially when she was busted and backs away like a frightened rabbit.

Conundrumseverywhere · 31/03/2025 15:49

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:48

That video of her going through the car was hilarious - especially when she was busted and backs away like a frightened rabbit.

Could someone post a link ?

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 15:51

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 15:46

Out of interest, how did she get in the trunk? Can she pick locks? 😁 Sloppy security if the car was unlocked.

I think the boot /trunk was already open

binkie163 · 31/03/2025 15:52

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 15:46

Out of interest, how did she get in the trunk? Can she pick locks? 😁 Sloppy security if the car was unlocked.

As the polo crowd all know each other, private estates, there was no need to lock cars.... until madam came along.

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:53

Serenster · 31/03/2025 15:39

I saw on twitter, so forgive me if this isn’t sourced - someone else may have the detail? - that a supporter of Harry had countered the allegation made on Sunday by SC.

That’s when SC said that Harry was basically bullying the charity by announcing to the world’s media with no notice at all to the charity’s management that he and Prince Seeiso had resigned as patrons in support of the trustees . The supporter had posted that SC knew this was coming, because Harry (or at least, his lawyers) had written to her to let her know that if she was successful in a gaining an injunction to prevent the Board from sacking her, that he would resign.

The poster clearly thought this made Harry look better. I thought it made him look way worse. If true, not only was he clearly taking sides in a dispute between two different factions of the Board that was already being litigated, but he was personally threatening an individual who claimed to be a whistleblower that he would take action to trash the reputation of the charity (and by extension her reputation) if she took steps to seek a remedy from the courts to protect herself from illegal retaliation against a whistleblower.

I think the former trustees and Prince Harry (who was clearly a shadow trustee here!) would do well to get some training about their obligations around whistleblowers. Harry might like to consider how trying to undermine the whistleblowing regime at Barclays fatally damaged the career of Jes Staley, its Global CEO back in 2018 - a man with more power than Prince Harry has ever had

TBH it looks like he is attempting to bully her into silence with hints of blackmail

So doesn't really help Harry's case

Uricon2 · 31/03/2025 15:53

There is a very real and hypocritical dissonance between the " I am Enlightened and have mended my ways (since leaving the horrible racist backward RF and it was all their fault anyway)" and the frankly colonialist, misogynist bullying of an African woman that is seeping out in the articles and interviews.

SC is a lawyer and appears anything but stupid (unlike Harry) She's not saying these things without proof. Asking her to "explain herself" for her quite proper refusal to act like a Sussex Squad cheerleader. The damned nerve. It really couldn't be worse for him. Sentabale imploding with a white man in SCs role would have been bad, but if he is too dumb and arrogant to see how horrible the optics of this are (all matters of morality and rightness aside) there is seriously no hope for him.

TheAutumnCrow · 31/03/2025 15:54

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:00

The place is currently experiencing major issues with rodents because of the bin strikes. How can they justify spending millions on these games to the people of Birmingham.

This is all because Johnny Mercer sucked up to Harry.

Invictus in Birmingham was always a fucking stupid idea.

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 15:56

Conundrumseverywhere · 31/03/2025 15:49

Could someone post a link ?

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 15:59

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:24

Question is whether anyone will agree to work with a couple that refuses to take advice - they have already burned their bridges at 2 PR agencies - Sunshine Sachs and William Morris Endeavour.

@Lunde I almost added that point to my post. If I were running an agency, I would be tempted by the brief and fee income but would give it a miss if I were approached both because I wouldn't expect my agency's advice to be taken and because I would want to protect my staff.

A more interesting question is what advice one would give them. Something along these lines to get them through the next few months: no more drip-feeding to the press supportive comments from friends; no more quasi-royal tours; stop calling Backgrid; issue a concise statement saying no press interviews from Harry or Meghan while CC investigation into Sentebale ongoing; publish a programme of solo engagements for Harry in support of African Parks to show he is driving the ongoing investigation, publication of findings and steps to address them ie without Meghan; stand down from Invictus in recognition of reputational issues caused by Sentable situation; rev up Archewell activity, focusing on the funding of existing US long-term projects in areas where clear outcomes can be shown eg child poverty, food poverty, mental health, with steady flow of communication based on reach and impact and no H&M visits; 'business as usual' communications for Meghan - Lemonada podcast release dates and guests, prices and availability date for RRO, forward plan for ShopMy; invite Thomas Markle to stay in Montecito; agree with KCIII a short Summer 2025 stage 1 reconciliation visit to Balmoral with M, A and L once RAVEC issue is concluded.

I would expect all of this to be ignored.

Conundrumseverywhere · 31/03/2025 15:59

TheAutumnCrow · 31/03/2025 15:54

This is all because Johnny Mercer sucked up to Harry.

Invictus in Birmingham was always a fucking stupid idea.

Considering the city is bankrupt and the bins haven't been emptied in nearly two months, how it can afford to host such an event is beyond me.

Lunde · 31/03/2025 16:00

Conundrumseverywhere · 31/03/2025 15:49

Could someone post a link ?

I can't find the full vid - but this is a short version - first 30 seconds

  • at first it looks like she is meant to be there rummaging in the car
  • then she is challenged and argues defensively with dark haired man
  • then a red haired guy (doesn't look like Harry) comes up and they have words and she backs away like a scalded cat
  • then there is an odd shot of her lingering suspiciously before backing away a second time

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGhjmlVoocI

sumor · 31/03/2025 16:00

PullTheBricksDown · 31/03/2025 15:47

Those children would have been in line to inherit a share of palaces, country houses, gardens and land, and jewels. Plus the ongoing deference of a nation and the absence of any need to work for a living.

Now, they get a ruined charity and an Instagram brand.

Wow.

They probably would have needed to work.

Princess Margaret kids do - Princess Anne do - I think the York sisters did a few things - Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh say they are bring their kids up to work.

I'm not saying they'd have been working down the supermarket - and I think they'd would have got places to live on royal estates - plus Harry fortune would have stood a higher chance of being intact to inherit - but I think this descrpition is a littely rosy about their prior prospects though I do agree their future life would be easier if their parents had stayed part of RF.

Friday I was reading all about this terrible chairwoman who won't leave and sound dodgy as fuck and since Dr Sophie Chandauka round of interviews - I know she did the reporting to charity commission and it sounds like a pattern of poor behavior from Sussex's has continued. So I think she did well and stopped the smear campaign in it's tracks.

TheAutumnCrow · 31/03/2025 16:02

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:19

I think it also becomes difficult for the left of centre leaning press that the object of his attacks is a well-educated, professional black woman.

… and described by arch-Thatcherite Baroness Lynda Chalker as ‘difficult’. The BBC and Guardian are very Down With This Sort Of Thing.

Conundrumseverywhere · 31/03/2025 16:03

Lunde · 31/03/2025 16:00

I can't find the full vid - but this is a short version - first 30 seconds

  • at first it looks like she is meant to be there rummaging in the car
  • then she is challenged and argues defensively with dark haired man
  • then a red haired guy (doesn't look like Harry) comes up and they have words and she backs away like a scalded cat
  • then there is an odd shot of her lingering suspiciously before backing away a second time

Why on earth would she do that? It's so brazen!

QueenOfHertz · 31/03/2025 16:03

These royals. I mean. If it’s not one generation then it’s another.

Sentebale no. 3
Serenster · 31/03/2025 16:03

Just musing - I wonder if the Board of Trustees at Invictus are debating whether they should be discussing Harry’s toxic brand and its impact on their own fundraising and general reputation at their next board meeting. And nervously looking around their number wondering if anyone will report them to the Charity Commission if they don’t…

Oh to be a fly on the wall! 🤣

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 16:07

Serenster · 31/03/2025 16:03

Just musing - I wonder if the Board of Trustees at Invictus are debating whether they should be discussing Harry’s toxic brand and its impact on their own fundraising and general reputation at their next board meeting. And nervously looking around their number wondering if anyone will report them to the Charity Commission if they don’t…

Oh to be a fly on the wall! 🤣

Harry would do well to step down voluntarily, before he's pushed and to show he has at least some understanding of how poor his reputation is.

My2cents1975 · 31/03/2025 16:09

ArtTheClown · 31/03/2025 15:44

her and Meghan, (two African women who both want to empower women seemingly at war).

No-one in Africa will see Meghan as African, at all.

Being classified as a Black woman is very different in the US versus sub-Saharan Africa. This is a bit of a long post but hope it helps.

The US uses the "one drop rule." If you have some black ancestry, you can claim that you are black even if you do not have stereotypically African features. The US has certain racial categorizations such as quadroons (1 of 4 grandparents was African), octoroons (1 of 8 great-grandparents was African)
PBS explains one drop rule

Within African Americans there is the issue of colorism. Lighter skinned slaves, often progeny of the master, more often worked in the houses, had access to basic education to perform tasks and better food. Darker skinned slaves, worked in the fields with no access to literacy or good quality food. Compounding the literacy dividend head start over the generations has resulted in lighter skinned African Americans tending to have more wealth vs their darker skinned cohorts. This created an unfortunate association that lighter skin meant you were somehow "better". So, you have some individuals who are proud of being a lighter shade of Black or "passing" for White and are excited when their progeny have "blue blue blue eyes."

Africans have a far different understanding of race than Americans. In sub-Saharan Africa, you need two Black parents to be classified as Black. In Zimbabwe, where Sophie Chandauka is from, M, due to her mixed heritage would be classified as "Coloured" (0.5% of Zimbabwe’s population) and not “Black”, (98% of Zimbabwe’s population), so from a Zimbabwean point of view, M is not a fellow black woman to SC.

Apartheid was not only present in South Africa but was present in most of colonial Africa, from Kenya to Zimbabwe featuring racially segregated hospitals to be born, racially segregated graveyards to be laid to rest and racial stratification of life in between (schools, elevators, offices, prisons, etc.).

M would be classified as “Coloured” in Eastern & Southern Africa and “Half-caste” in West Africa. Coloured children were whisked from their families as soon as an authority spotted then and were raised by the state. The State then punished the parents with prison time. Trevor Noah in his book "Born a Crime" detailed how his mother's family hid him, and while outside his mother pretended to be his nanny so the South African state would not take him. Born a Crime by Trevor Noah

As you can imagine children raised in government orphanages did not have the best start to life as they were routinely neglected and ignored. To this day, social studies by race in former colonies such as Kenya or Zimbabwe show that the Coloured population is over-represented in crime, alcoholism, drug abuse, etc. Unfortunately, as a consequence, the Black African population looks down on the Coloured population as having no culture and no roots and views any marriage as bringing in problems to the family.

Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood (One World Essentials) - Kindle edition by Noah, Trevor. Humor & Entertainment Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood (One World Essentials) - Kindle edition by Noah, Trevor. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while rea...

https://www.amazon.com/Born-Crime-Stories-African-Childhood-ebook/dp/B01DHWACVY?ref_=ast_author_dp&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.of0YaftzYzyq3BTklTkJB-6D8p4_iNm7yrAhMgAMc0KUTaBdS6Vb2DxTNXQcPG40oKNZbwrW-S8KJatIN0zMlPYAxVGnzBt2ykBqoFEKeIrU0ddCpwUhGC4mhCP5DAO1GzXblW3oJ_mpgKKffBRRwyocMCllFHvNfVazYuCKbU0PExcG2Jvq7wuRB8gdeRH_LaB8QlNZvE3Wkfge-sYaUo0BYo7ENazdhTHXJ5RvY3w.jMnVMjjyDtCFKsQM_sHhwjyKocR18LY66OmrhYZAq0w&dib_tag=AUTHOR&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-the-royal-family-5305394-sentebale-no-3

ArtTheClown · 31/03/2025 16:16

Beyond that, MM will very firmly be seen as a privileged Westerner/American. She's not culturally Coloured per the southern African cultural/ethnic group, either.

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:17

QueenOfHertz · 31/03/2025 16:03

These royals. I mean. If it’s not one generation then it’s another.

You should know that everyone on MN has a poo stick / knife 😂

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 16:19

Meanwhile, at The Royal Lodge, the sound of gentle chuckling is heard about the grounds...

Thedom · 31/03/2025 16:21

Harry said this about his wife : “My wife is not visibly Black, but that’s who she is,”

Harry said this about his girlfriend at the time : "Its not like she is black or anything".

so enlightened 🙄 and now bullying an accomplished black woman.

OP posts:
Mylovelygreendress · 31/03/2025 16:21

The DM have two interesting articles online - one about Chelsy and one about Cressida !!!

Whatdoweknowsofar · 31/03/2025 16:22

I agree with sweetgingercat

I am holding my fire from making up my mind completely about this issue until I know the outcome of the official enquiry.

I like to judge things as I find them and not be influenced by three threads about Sentabale full of Royalists virtually rubbing their hands with glee over the possibility that Harry may be “in trouble” again as they interpret it. It’s not a terribly edifying spectacle tbh!

I’m a Republican so no loyalties either way to the people involved.

My thoughts so far are, that I do find it strange how so many people seem to be ignoring the fact that it was far from just Harry who resigned.

Also how Linda Chalker called SC dictatorial in the FT article. Say what you like about Chalker, I don’t share her political views, but she does have a lot of experience on boards and in overseas development and aid.

And from my own observation, from the Sky interview, I didn’t find SC to be a particularly sympathetic personality. I felt that if she really was putting the charity first, and not her own profile, then she would have tackled this in a very different way. And she would have been more professional about a kerfuffle over a photo opp. So there are quite possibly mistakes on both sides, which is a crying shame for the beneficiaries.

I also thought it was rather interesting to see Gyles Brandreth and Camilla Tominey on tv being quite supportive of Harry this morning.

Gyles is friendly with the Charles and Camilla and CT usually takes a very pro-palace line, so maybe BP knows something that we don’t about the situation? Or there are similar issues within some of the RF’s charities that they don’t want to draw attention to?

SatinBall · 31/03/2025 16:24

Lunde · 31/03/2025 16:00

I can't find the full vid - but this is a short version - first 30 seconds

  • at first it looks like she is meant to be there rummaging in the car
  • then she is challenged and argues defensively with dark haired man
  • then a red haired guy (doesn't look like Harry) comes up and they have words and she backs away like a scalded cat
  • then there is an odd shot of her lingering suspiciously before backing away a second time

That looks so sus. What was she looking for? Super creepy.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.