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Sentebale no. 3

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Thedom · 31/03/2025 07:40

The ex lead Patron Its getting plenty of media coverage today.

(ps, my hash key doesn't work )

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Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:17

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/03/2025 13:58

Agreed again, MrsLF

I hadn't realised though that the upcoming Ravec thing was so soon and thought it was slated for late summer (though maybe I'm getting mixed up with the Mail case) and if that too fails to deliver everything Harry wants I doubt he'll be a happy bunny

Just too many court cases ....🙄

IAmATorturedPoet · 31/03/2025 15:17

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:14

I wonder if Prince Lesotho from Santabale will be a guest and give us some insight in how to run a successful charity.

🤣🤣

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:19

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/03/2025 14:01

It occurs that the more imperiously he behaves the less support he'll get from the more republican press sources who have been trying to be positive up until now.

I think it also becomes difficult for the left of centre leaning press that the object of his attacks is a well-educated, professional black woman.

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 15:19

@AtIusvue You've forgotten the dozens of copies of "The Bench" used to prop up laptops.

Mightymoog · 31/03/2025 15:19

sweetgingercat · 31/03/2025 14:40

@AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta

... are you saying that Sophie Chandauka should've put up and shut up about her claims of mistreatment and bullying but that Meghan was right to speak out about her claims of mistreatment and bullying within the BRF?

No, I'm not saying that, not at all. I don't know what the circumstances are behind all of this, there are always two sides to every story and we should wait until the Charity Commission's investigation is complete.

What I am saying is that for the benefit of Sentebale, which will now be looking for new patrons, trustees, board members, funders etc, she should not have toured the TV studios this weekend airing the organisations' dirty laundry, whoever was at fault. What she should have done is managed a positive spin on the situation so that the organisation's reputation didn't suffer.

I have no doubt that the polo incident was infuriating. But she didn't need to talk it. She could have used the opportunity to talk about how she wanted to move the organisation forward in a new direction, to find African support that empowers the African communities it helps. But she didn't do that and now the story is about mud flinging between her and Harry, and worse, her and Meghan, (two African women who both want to empower women seemingly at war). That's the worst outcome of all for Sentebale and the young people it helps. It's like teachers fighting in the playground.

Net result: Sentebale suffers.

Meghan is an African woman?
Wasn't she born in la?

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:20

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:17

Just too many court cases ....🙄

I read it’s the 8th of April, same day as Megs Podcast launch.

They're nothing if not efficient!

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 15:21

A piece about African Parks www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harrys-other-charity-nightmare-the-racist-and-colonial-african-parks/

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2025 15:21

Onlyonekenobe · 31/03/2025 15:14

What I am saying is that for the benefit of Sentebale, which will now be looking for new patrons, trustees, board members, funders etc, she should not have toured the TV studios this weekend airing the organisations' dirty laundry, whoever was at fault. What she should have done is managed a positive spin on the situation so that the organisation's reputation didn't suffer.

No. HARRY should not have put a statement out to the press about his heartbreak over what's happening at the charity, implying all sorts about the charity's management and its future. All SC is doing is saving the charity's reputation from accusations of mismanagement, by saying "this account is false and this is why, we remain focused on a locally-led organisation serving local beneficiaries first and foremost and here are the steps I've taken to ensure that happens as best I can".

This was not a "when they go low, you go high" moment that SC messed up. This was Harry putting a damaging - to the charity and to SC - press release out there and SC trying to wind back some of that damage.

Indeed!!! Why is it everyone else has to go high , while clearly Harry and Meghan are allowed to go low?

they have been slinging unsubstantiated mud at everyone and their mother for years now! But apparently that’s fine and everyone else should smile and be quiet! 🙄

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2025 15:22

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:14

I wonder if Prince Lesotho from Santabale will be a guest and give us some insight in how to run a successful charity.

🤣🤣

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 15:23

I'm ashamed to admit that most Americans are really bad with geography. Also history. The schools really collapsed in the 1990s. Every state sets its own standards. I could tell you horror stories...

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:24

IdaGlossop · 31/03/2025 14:17

Speaking as an ex PR, I hope so. What they need now is an agency specialising in
crisis PR. An in-house team is not best placed to deal with a crisis on this scale. It's quickly turning into a global character assassination. You need to be able to talk through the issues and approaches with a variety of colleagues to get different points of view. You need to be able to give robust advice without fear of being sacked.

Edited for typo

Edited

Question is whether anyone will agree to work with a couple that refuses to take advice - they have already burned their bridges at 2 PR agencies - Sunshine Sachs and William Morris Endeavour.

MyCatIsTheHeadChef · 31/03/2025 15:24

Indeed. And Harry and Meghan have a bit of a track record of behaving imperiously and apparently bullyingly to people who can't answer back - staff and the Royal family and making malicious accusations that they cannot reply to.

Dr C isn't accepting that. I expect the fact she is out there and vocal has come as a complete shock to them.

If she can provide evidence for her claims (and I am sure she can) then bring it on.

Mightymoog · 31/03/2025 15:24

TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 31/03/2025 15:12

God I hope that gets published, it’ll be interesting!

I know. I've already commented on it but I would be so excited!

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:28

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 14:30

Started the job 3rd March. Today is her ‘ Happy 4 week anniversary!’……. I wonder if Meg made her a cake?

So she started a couple of days before the "with love Meghan" fiasco and 4 weeks later she is in the middle of the Sentebale debacle.

Baptism of fire ....

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 15:28

Mightymoog · 31/03/2025 15:24

I know. I've already commented on it but I would be so excited!

Can you make FOI requests to the Charity Commission? Surely she would give this document as evidence to back up the undue influence and governance mismanagement allegations.

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 15:29

Mightymoog · 31/03/2025 15:24

I know. I've already commented on it but I would be so excited!

DrC is a better woman than me, I would have to sit on my hands to stop me publishing the message.

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:32

Uricon2 · 31/03/2025 14:23

Harry's USP was that people really liked him, or at least the him that was visible to the world pre marriage, that seemed warm, funny and engaged. He has plentifully tarnished that reputation over the last 5 years and now put a ton of dynamite under the remains of it. All done by himself.

He was very expertly PR packaged by the palace as the "cheeky, chappy, military veteran Prince"

But they seem to have covered some of his less attractive traits plus I don't think living in an LA echo chamber has helped him.

BasiliskStare · 31/03/2025 15:37

@BemusedAmerican "He's not the prince of my realm or her realm. That is one of the reasons he doesn't matter in the US."
I'd venture to suggest that whilst Harry is actually a Prince of the Realm here , to a lot of people in the UK nowadays he is "that chap who happens to be KCIII's younger son "

Serenster · 31/03/2025 15:39

I saw on twitter, so forgive me if this isn’t sourced - someone else may have the detail? - that a supporter of Harry had countered the allegation made on Sunday by SC.

That’s when SC said that Harry was basically bullying the charity by announcing to the world’s media with no notice at all to the charity’s management that he and Prince Seeiso had resigned as patrons in support of the trustees . The supporter had posted that SC knew this was coming, because Harry (or at least, his lawyers) had written to her to let her know that if she was successful in a gaining an injunction to prevent the Board from sacking her, that he would resign.

The poster clearly thought this made Harry look better. I thought it made him look way worse. If true, not only was he clearly taking sides in a dispute between two different factions of the Board that was already being litigated, but he was personally threatening an individual who claimed to be a whistleblower that he would take action to trash the reputation of the charity (and by extension her reputation) if she took steps to seek a remedy from the courts to protect herself from illegal retaliation against a whistleblower.

I think the former trustees and Prince Harry (who was clearly a shadow trustee here!) would do well to get some training about their obligations around whistleblowers. Harry might like to consider how trying to undermine the whistleblowing regime at Barclays fatally damaged the career of Jes Staley, its Global CEO back in 2018 - a man with more power than Prince Harry has ever had

Lunde · 31/03/2025 15:40

sweetgingercat · 31/03/2025 14:40

@AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta

... are you saying that Sophie Chandauka should've put up and shut up about her claims of mistreatment and bullying but that Meghan was right to speak out about her claims of mistreatment and bullying within the BRF?

No, I'm not saying that, not at all. I don't know what the circumstances are behind all of this, there are always two sides to every story and we should wait until the Charity Commission's investigation is complete.

What I am saying is that for the benefit of Sentebale, which will now be looking for new patrons, trustees, board members, funders etc, she should not have toured the TV studios this weekend airing the organisations' dirty laundry, whoever was at fault. What she should have done is managed a positive spin on the situation so that the organisation's reputation didn't suffer.

I have no doubt that the polo incident was infuriating. But she didn't need to talk it. She could have used the opportunity to talk about how she wanted to move the organisation forward in a new direction, to find African support that empowers the African communities it helps. But she didn't do that and now the story is about mud flinging between her and Harry, and worse, her and Meghan, (two African women who both want to empower women seemingly at war). That's the worst outcome of all for Sentebale and the young people it helps. It's like teachers fighting in the playground.

Net result: Sentebale suffers.

I disagree.

If the charity is to recover then potential sponsors need to understand what caused the current issues. The fact that Harry's statement and that of former trustees labelled her "difficult" with vague hints of financial impropriety was designed to deter sponsors and sabotage the charity IMHO.

It wasn't just about the polo incident - SC has reported Sentebale to the CC for failures of governance involving the board that resigned. There is a current CC investigation. SC had maintained her silence about everything until Harry went on the attack.

binkie163 · 31/03/2025 15:41

Mylovelygreendress · 31/03/2025 13:22

Was it not William’s car ?

It's a few years back but yes you are probably right, Williams. I doubt there would have been such a fuss if it was Harry's car.

ArtTheClown · 31/03/2025 15:44

her and Meghan, (two African women who both want to empower women seemingly at war).

No-one in Africa will see Meghan as African, at all.

BemusedAmerican · 31/03/2025 15:46

binkie163 · 31/03/2025 15:41

It's a few years back but yes you are probably right, Williams. I doubt there would have been such a fuss if it was Harry's car.

Out of interest, how did she get in the trunk? Can she pick locks? 😁 Sloppy security if the car was unlocked.

PullTheBricksDown · 31/03/2025 15:47

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 14:53

Meg also said she wants the kids to inherit As ever in the People article the other week.

They’ll be nothing for them to inherit

Those children would have been in line to inherit a share of palaces, country houses, gardens and land, and jewels. Plus the ongoing deference of a nation and the absence of any need to work for a living.

Now, they get a ruined charity and an Instagram brand.

Wow.

NewAgeNewMe · 31/03/2025 15:47

MyCatIsTheHeadChef · 31/03/2025 15:24

Indeed. And Harry and Meghan have a bit of a track record of behaving imperiously and apparently bullyingly to people who can't answer back - staff and the Royal family and making malicious accusations that they cannot reply to.

Dr C isn't accepting that. I expect the fact she is out there and vocal has come as a complete shock to them.

If she can provide evidence for her claims (and I am sure she can) then bring it on.

A taste of their own medicine. A very brave woman to stand up to the Sussexes.

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