Sentebale #2

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Second thread .

Excellent @Puzzledandpissedoff! Many thanks , a second viewing elevated it for me ! 🤣

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You're very welcome, @jeffgoldblum

While we're on the subject of the Telegraph article, and in light of the many comments that Ms Chandauka's was a voluntary role, I was surprised to read the quote below
There is of course nothing wrong with payment being made and it's hardly the main issue here, but I just wondered why the "voluntary" bit has been so widely accepted

Separately, there were disagreements about Ms Chandauka’s remuneration for what was, essentially, a voluntary role

One side claimed that the trustees and Prince Harry offered to reimburse her for her efforts, initiating the discussions and asking her to put together a business case

A source close to Ms Chandauka said she asked for “a very small sum”
However, another source told The Telegraph that she was offered a pro rata salary of £150,000 salary, for her part time work but that she “didn’t take that very well” and asked instead for £2,000 a day, capped at £300,000 a year

I initially assumed wrongdoing on the part of Dr Chandauka on the basis that Prince Seeiso had resigned from his role with the charity, but these details are making me question that. Possibly he's just been swayed by his long friendship with Harry?

I said on the previous thread, I might discount most of what Harry says, but Prince Seeiso is a different matter. Lesotho is his country, and he has experience in government and diplomacy. I wouldn't expect him to come out in support of Harry purely because of their personal relationship without looking at all sides and thinking everything through carefully. Will be interesting to see if he makes any further statement.

Obviously the ins and outs of the whole situation are unclear, but Harry requesting the Meghan “clarification” seems to ring very true. Her being placed front and centre at Invictus and those “royal tours” where Harry was manoeuvred out to the side or back of official photos are there for all to see. And when she gets in the middle of groups to avoid being cropped out. Once and it could be argued that no, didn’t happen. But it’s at every public appearance!

Just seen someone suggest that maybe SC leaked the initial story to the Times. That hadn't occurred to me, stupidly, but it certainly explains why the Sussex side were a bit behind the story.

Neither side are covering themselves with glory, frankly. I think it could have been dealt with very differently and I sense there is far more to this than meets the eye on both sides.

As noted at the end of the last thread in the FT article she rows back from implicating the princes in the racism etc allegations. I think that is highly significant.

The sad thing is it's the intended recipients who are likely to suffer. I doubt many serious donors would be willing to give to this charity until this whole mess on stilts is resolved. By which time the charity may well be done for.

For good or ill, SC has detonated a bomb under it by going public in this particular way.

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surely she has receipts?!

I picked that up'too @Puzzledandpissedoff . Same figures.

The source DM I think hinted at a bust up over money. V carefully worded. Suggested she decided to carry on without payment. I wonder what thé truth is.

How did she row back on the racism allegations?

From FT

Chandauka added that during her time as chair she experienced “disrespect, bullying and intimidation” and “misogyny and misogynoir (misogyny directed at Black women)”, allegations that have been vehemently denied. There is no suggestion that Princes Harry or Seeiso were alleged to have behaved in this way.

Maybe that is the FT covering itself actually, but still

@Thedom

One side claimed that the trustees and Prince Harry offered to reimburse her for her efforts, initiating the discussions and asking her to put together a business case
A source close to Ms Chandauka said she asked for “a very small sum”
However, another source told The Telegraph that she was offered a pro rata salary of £150,000 salary, for her part time work but that she “didn’t take that very well” and asked instead for £2,000 a day, capped at £300,000 a year

Wonder if this is to get ahead of Harry's expenses being disclosed, won't look so bad if they are claiming their chair wanted a 300k. salary

Anyway, I think Sentebale have denied this, saying her family were the 3rd largest donors to Sentebale. It is more than strange to go from turning down a 150k salary to taking nothing as a salary.

She is being undermined.

A charity chairperson (or NED chairperson of a board) would normally be on a pro-rata salary or 'allowance', plus reasonable expenses.

These should be public, i.e. transparent, agree by the board, and published in a timely fashion.

No-one should be doing it for nothing except for titled, privileged and honorary and founding patrons.

Final point: was Sophie Chandauka put in the position, after the resignation of the Sentebale CEO and many others, of being effectively a chairperson doing the job and workload of a CEO, to her own detriment?

I sense there is far more to this than meets the eye on both sides

IME there very often is, @Words, and meanwhile - as you rightly say - the real losers are the recipients they're supposed to be helping

It's sad, but it's also not the first time it's happened and I doubt it'll be the last

She is being undermined

I agree, @Thedom

What did he do to Princess Anne? Cant imagine her taking it lying down tho. Lol

I don't think so. From the website's news section for Dec last year there seems to have been a smooth transition from the previous CEO to the current interim one Carmel Gaillard.

This was the part of her original statement, she never mentioned Harry or Seesio, so I don't see her rowing back on anything to be fair.

“ is the story of a woman who dared to blow the whistle about issues of poor governance, weak executive management, abuse of power, bullying, harassment, misogyny, misogynoir – and the coverup that ensued. I could be anyone.

Yes, several times the average annual salary for a 'voluntary' part time position with a charity?

I suspect there is fault on all sides and Sentebale does sound like a rather bloated organisation. Its beneficiaries are in Lesotho, its head office and many senior staff are in London, and its founder is in California, with an increasing focus on American donors. It seems like a rather wide spread across continents and time zones for what is really a relatively small charity.

Sorry that was for @TheAutumnCrow

God, I hope they really were roasting a chicken in the real sense because she phoned her friend just before he proposed and said something along the lines of, this is it, it’s going to happen now.

....and its founder is in California

Co-founder. It was always Harry and Seeiso's project. And I wonder if Harry was brought on board because he was known and liked worldwide and could attract publicity and funding. Now of course he's become a liability.

What did he do to Princess Anne?

Any man who takes on Princess Anne and Angela Kelly is either very brave or very foolish.

She is being undermined

You could well be right, @Thedom, but I'd still like to know where the truth lies

I'm also interested in where the confirmed $500k on "consultancy" was spent.
It's a hell of a lot of money for a relatively small charity to pay, but is yet another thing we'll probably learn more about in time

It’s so disappointing, when he left the royal family this was exactly the kind of project I imagined him getting involved i

If SC asked for and received unauthorised payment as a trustee she may regret arousing the interest of the Charity Commission.