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Sentebale #2

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Words · 29/03/2025 12:59

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Thedom · 31/03/2025 07:54

Oh yeah right,, the same sources who asked Sophie to come out and defend Meghan Markle,

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LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 07:55

A very simple way to put all this controversy to rest and attract new investors would simply be to prove that the board had no reasons for being concerned with her management style when it comes to fundings and efficiency in money allocation.

I believe these expenditures are/ should be audited, so what is the issue?
Even in a normal workplace, when questioned about our efficiency and ability to do the job, we may have to provide clear examples and in some cases actual figures to prove that yes, we are doing our jobs efficiently and that we are the right person for that specific position.

Serenster · 31/03/2025 07:56

What I am highlighting is that there were apparently concerns around the expenditures of the charity and the efficiency of money allocation within the organisation.
This is what apparently prompted a whole board to resign and this is not being addressed.

Funnily enough when a whole board resigns, they have abdicated their responsibility, and given up their authority to investigate any issues that arose. So they need to hope that any allegations they wish to make about that are also investigated by the Charities Commission.

Makes you wonder why they took the nuclear option of resigning and just telling the press rather than acting in line with their responsibilities and investigate.

CorrectionCentre · 31/03/2025 07:56

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 07:44

As stated in previous posts, I am not arguing with this approach which I believe could be healthy for the charity.

We are not in disagreement here.

What I am highlighting is that there were apparently concerns around the expenditures of the charity and the efficiency of money allocation within the organisation.

This is what apparently prompted a whole board to resign and this is not being addressed.

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But it can't be addressed "simply".

It took the Charity Commission 2 years to investigate the expenditure of the Captain Tom charity and that was pretty obvious. No one is suggesting that SC has spent the charity funds on a swimming pool in her back garden!

Accounts and spending are publicly available. The figures alone won't be an answer to anything.

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 07:58

ShamedBySiri · 31/03/2025 06:49

Here’s how it was at Sentabale polo in 2023 when it was in Singapore.
I wonder how much dealings SC had had with Meghan before she rocked up to the polo in 2024? She must have been fuming to suddenly find herself treated like the office junior.

Look what happened in July 2023, in between that picture and the match where Meghan presented the trophy.

They just happen to want to start replicating everything W&C do. They’re basically pretending to be Royals in California

Bontonbonbon · 31/03/2025 08:01

NewAgeNewMe · 31/03/2025 07:47

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Exactly. The absolute loops these people are going through to make this okay are astounding. Yet during the ‘where’s Kate’ saga these would be the same people mocking a woman with cancer.

Imagine thé mental gymnastics you have to do to make that okay. Looks like a cult, smells like a cult. It’s a cult.

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 08:02

SC didn't appear to be unhinged, so she must have pretty solid evidence to come out and make the claims she has , I doubt very much that she would risk her professional reputation otherwise.

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 08:03

Profhilodisaster · 31/03/2025 07:30

SC did back her argument with facts- the fact that they lost out on a polo venue due to Harry trying to bring a Netflix crew along, the fact that they lost sponsors, the fact that trustees had been on the board for far too long.

This

Dr C was highlighting how Harry used this actual charity to wield special favours and create self promotion. From a governance POV that’s a big problem because you’re really not supposed to do that. The Charity Commission have oodles of guidelines because people before have used charities effectively as a shell company to promote themselves and pull favours for others. It’s a conflict of interest and any Chair should be seriously worried about conflicts of interest.

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 08:06

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 07:44

As stated in previous posts, I am not arguing with this approach which I believe could be healthy for the charity.

We are not in disagreement here.

What I am highlighting is that there were apparently concerns around the expenditures of the charity and the efficiency of money allocation within the organisation.

This is what apparently prompted a whole board to resign and this is not being addressed.

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Perhaps be use to get out the bank statements to show to Sky News would be illegal?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/03/2025 08:09

If you had no solid proof of misconduct then issuing the statement H did was pretty damn irresponsible and dare I say a form of public bullying ...

Quite right, @BreadInCaptivity, and I'll say the same about Harry as I have about Ms Chandauka: "He'd better be able to prove it"

The difference, perhaps, is that he has a lot of known form for making accusations without proof and expecting others to take them on trust, and AFAIK there's no evidence of the other doing the same

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 08:09

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 07:55

A very simple way to put all this controversy to rest and attract new investors would simply be to prove that the board had no reasons for being concerned with her management style when it comes to fundings and efficiency in money allocation.

I believe these expenditures are/ should be audited, so what is the issue?
Even in a normal workplace, when questioned about our efficiency and ability to do the job, we may have to provide clear examples and in some cases actual figures to prove that yes, we are doing our jobs efficiently and that we are the right person for that specific position.

If you worked with a perpetual liar, who has spent his life shitting all over others with his lies including his family, and he came for you or someone else, would you “wait for the investigation”?

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:10

I d like to Clarify that mismanaging money does not necessarily equate to money laundering or even to pocketing the money. It may simply have to do with how efficiently the funds are managed(please note that we are talking about a charity, so the more money goes to the intended recipients, the better). Efficiency is the key word here.

I personally would have done the same thing.
I am sorry, but after highlighting the concerns that I had and not being listened to, I would walk away and would not want my professional reputation to be linked to something I am not comfortable with, yes it's a pity, but there is no reasons to go down professionally with what could potentially be discovered in the future and frankly to be part of something I do not feel comfortable with.

Wildflowers99 · 31/03/2025 08:10

It feels like Harry and co wrung the charity out for all the publicity and self promotion it could offer and when it became clear this wouldn’t really continue, they blamed Dr S and jumped ship. I get the feeling Harry doesn’t really have time for Sentebale any more anyway, but quitting to concentrate on Netflix wouldn’t be seen as an authentic reason, so a change of management seemed a good time to quit.

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 08:11

JandamiHash · 31/03/2025 07:58

Look what happened in July 2023, in between that picture and the match where Meghan presented the trophy.

They just happen to want to start replicating everything W&C do. They’re basically pretending to be Royals in California

Was meant to attach a picture with this

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MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 08:12

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:10

I d like to Clarify that mismanaging money does not necessarily equate to money laundering or even to pocketing the money. It may simply have to do with how efficiently the funds are managed(please note that we are talking about a charity, so the more money goes to the intended recipients, the better). Efficiency is the key word here.

I personally would have done the same thing.
I am sorry, but after highlighting the concerns that I had and not being listened to, I would walk away and would not want my professional reputation to be linked to something I am not comfortable with, yes it's a pity, but there is no reasons to go down professionally with what could potentially be discovered in the future and frankly to be part of something I do not feel comfortable with.

What if you were a Black African woman and you felt bullied and harassed by a privileged white prince?
Wouldn't you want to speak out?

Baital · 31/03/2025 08:17

StrawberryWasp · 31/03/2025 07:11

All this is certainly making me reflect on what a self serving sham it is being rich and privileged and setting up a charity.

You get to feel all sanctimonious and claim philanthropy while all you're really doing is organising posh events for you and your posh friends.

This type of philanthropy is the ultimate privilege. You get to believe you are a Good Person because of your good works without realising your good works are all part of your privilege.

I guess I've always known this but this story about the Polo matches is really making it stink.

Genuine philanthropy has to be done very carefully and guarding against hubris and self service.

Maybe the royals manage this role because it's a job so there isn't any pretence that 'I do this because I'm such a great person'.
Which is where H^M fell down at the start and continued with all their word salads.

They believe they are super special and compassionate, and that's why they are 'philanthropists' not because they are privileged or had a job to do.

Well, you don't even have to.organise the event yourself, or take the responsibility of being a trustee.

You do the tiny proportion you enjoy, and have other people do the actual work - and then take the credit.

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:18

I, on the other hands, get the feeling that had this woman taken a different approach we wouldn't be at this point.

No I am not talking about showing confidential documents to the camera. It would have been as simple as stating X is the proportion of money that goes to the children,and I have documentation to back this statement up'.

This would have put the mind of future investors to rest, cleared her name, prove that she was unfairly attacked. Engaging in idle gossip is certainly not going to attract the Bloombergs of the world is it?
I am not sure how this is Harry's responsibility.
He and the Prince of Lesotho ( who by the way provided a joint statement with PH , but is not being discussed from some strange reasons) as well as the board raised their concerns, and then walked away when not being listened to.

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:19

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:18

I, on the other hands, get the feeling that had this woman taken a different approach we wouldn't be at this point.

No I am not talking about showing confidential documents to the camera. It would have been as simple as stating X is the proportion of money that goes to the children,and I have documentation to back this statement up'.

This would have put the mind of future investors to rest, cleared her name, prove that she was unfairly attacked. Engaging in idle gossip is certainly not going to attract the Bloombergs of the world is it?
I am not sure how this is Harry's responsibility.
He and the Prince of Lesotho ( who by the way provided a joint statement with PH , but is not being discussed from some strange reasons) as well as the board raised their concerns, and then walked away when not being listened to.

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Bontonbonbon · 31/03/2025 08:30

MayaKovskaya · 31/03/2025 08:12

What if you were a Black African woman and you felt bullied and harassed by a privileged white prince?
Wouldn't you want to speak out?

Apparently this is fine for Meghan but not okay for other black women to do. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Prince Harry, a known liar, is apparently more believable than an educated, professional African woman of previously unimpeachable character. Okay, got it.

These posters need to never come here again with their self aggrandised smugness about being anti-racist campaigners.

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:32

It is lovely that we are finally encouraging women of colour to speak out against any form of abuse and prevarication without calling them a liar. We seem to be finally moving in the right direction, if this is genuine ☺️.
I encourage anyone to speak out about being bullied.
However, when being questioned about how efficient you are at your job, you have to be able to prove it. We all have to. Especially when it comes to vulnerable children with HIV like in this case.

There is no running from that, irrespective of who is the patron, or the board , or the chair, for a charity to fulfill it's duty, the funds need to be managed efficiently and this is what it is being called into question

Mylovelygreendress · 31/03/2025 08:37

If the “ sources” are confident that they are in the right, why are they not willing to go on record the way SC has ?

LipglossAlly · 31/03/2025 08:46

I do not necessarily trust these " sources" that do not speak with their chest and do not attach their names to things.

However, these allegations are out there.
We have different accounts regarding how the charity was run.

An investigation into how things were being managed, funds in primis, should bring more clarity.

SirHoglet · 31/03/2025 08:46

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Mylovelygreendress · 31/03/2025 08:47

Have you slept @LipglossAlly ?

LemonLeaves · 31/03/2025 08:47

@LipglossAlly the charity's accounts are publicly available documents - go and look. Charities with income over £1m must also be audited annually. All of this is on the charity's record, so if you want to know where and how they have been spending their money then it's all there.

You still haven't answered my question about why the resigning trustees haven't self-reported to the CC if they have concerns about wrong-doing. Despite their clear legal obligation to do so.

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