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So what is Harry doing to fill his days?

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CornishTeaTime · 28/03/2025 07:31

Serious question...what is he actually doing

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wordler · 11/04/2025 14:33

vera99 · 11/04/2025 10:29

Didn't take long.

You’ve got to admit that’s a great headline!

Mightymoog · 11/04/2025 14:33

vera99 · 11/04/2025 14:04

That's their call, not ours to make - it's not easy to get there either you have to fly to Poland and take a special train. If they didn't want him visiting they would have definately have said so and besides he is representing Invictus.

really? You have to take a special train?
That sounds very exciting!
Is there no other way in . Planes, road etc.?
I'm not being arsey, I never heard this before and it's interesting.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 14:44

Well done Harry visiting Ukraine and with Invictus too. He was in and out before it could be reported on, which is even better.

Anyone who knocks this visit really needs to have a good look at themselves. He was at a rehabilitation centre for amputees and he was invited by the Chief Exec of the Centre, and of course the tie up with Invictus is relevant, as the CEO of Invictus said Ukraine is a vital part of the charity's work, and they were present too . Well done him.

DelectableMe · 11/04/2025 14:45

vera99 · 11/04/2025 14:06

In the context of family intrusion. The Wales are apparently considering sueing Paris Match for the papped pictures on yet another holiday.

Good. I hope they do. The family should be entitled to privacy on their holiday.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 14:48

and it doesn’t appear that anyone has the stamina to say no to Harry !

? He was invited and also met the Foreign Minister. If he wasn't wanted there he wouldn't have been invited. I'm sure the Ukrainian government and the Chief Executive of the Rehabilitation Centre have plenty of stamina given what they are going through. 😒
That's a bit of a mean comment to be frank.

I find it extremely odd that posters would knock this. If it was anyone else, they would be lauded.

Thedom · 11/04/2025 14:54

He was in and out before it could be reported on

Ah okay, that makes sense, turned up for the photo op, isn't that a constant complaint about both of them in their disaster tourist guise.

vera99 · 11/04/2025 15:00

Mightymoog · 11/04/2025 14:33

really? You have to take a special train?
That sounds very exciting!
Is there no other way in . Planes, road etc.?
I'm not being arsey, I never heard this before and it's interesting.

Ukraine it is at war with Russia and all flights other than military have been suspended.

VIP foreign visitors, including dignitaries and high-profile individuals, continue to travel to Ukraine despite the ongoing conflict. Given the closure of Ukrainian airspace, these visits are meticulously planned with enhanced security measures and alternative travel routes.

### Travel Routes for VIP Visitors

- Air Travel to Neighboring Countries: VIPs typically fly into airports in neighboring countries such as Poland, Slovakia, or Romania.

- Land Transit into Ukraine: From these countries, they proceed to Ukraine via secure ground transportation, often accompanied by security details.

- Rail Travel: In certain cases, secure train services are utilized for entry into Ukraine.

### Security and Logistical Arrangements

- Coordination with Authorities: Visits are coordinated with Ukrainian authorities to ensure safety and logistical support.

- Discreet Planning: Details of such visits are often kept confidential until completion to maintain security.

For instance, Prince Harry made an unannounced visit to Lviv in April 2025, shortly after attending a court hearing in London. During his visit, he met with staff and patients at a rehabilitation clinic and interacted with Ukraine's Minister of Veterans Affairs. citeturn0news12

### Entry Requirements for Foreign Visitors

While VIPs may have specific protocols, general entry requirements for foreign visitors include:

- Valid Passport: Must be valid for the entire duration of stay.

- Proof of Purpose: Documentation such as invitations or event participation confirmations.

- Financial Means: Evidence of sufficient funds for the stay and return journey.

- Health Insurance: A policy covering the entire period of stay in Ukraine. citeturn0search1

It's important to note that the UK Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office advises against all travel to Ukraine due to the ongoing conflict. citeturn0search2

jeffgoldblum · 11/04/2025 15:06

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 14:48

and it doesn’t appear that anyone has the stamina to say no to Harry !

? He was invited and also met the Foreign Minister. If he wasn't wanted there he wouldn't have been invited. I'm sure the Ukrainian government and the Chief Executive of the Rehabilitation Centre have plenty of stamina given what they are going through. 😒
That's a bit of a mean comment to be frank.

I find it extremely odd that posters would knock this. If it was anyone else, they would be lauded.

Of course!
never mind all the people dying as long as Harry looks good! 🙄

notimagain · 11/04/2025 15:13

Mightymoog · 11/04/2025 14:33

really? You have to take a special train?
That sounds very exciting!
Is there no other way in . Planes, road etc.?
I'm not being arsey, I never heard this before and it's interesting.

For info Ukraine airspace is still closed to commercial aviation, so if you want to get to places like Lviv you have to fly into Rzeszów in eastern Poland commercially (e.g
Ryanair from the UK) or on your hired private jet and then surface transport into Ukraine.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 15:17

jeffgoldblum · 11/04/2025 15:06

Of course!
never mind all the people dying as long as Harry looks good! 🙄

But ukrainians do not have stamina, according to you. If they did, they would have said No to Harry's visit

BruFord · 11/04/2025 15:23

Tbrh · 28/03/2025 09:59

Probably more than he did considering he has two kids? Living his best life in the Californian sun

@Tbrh If he were a SAHP in the typical sense then yes- but they have household staff, don’t you think? I think it’s highly unlikely that he’s making the children’s meals, doing the washing, cleaning, etc. 😂

BruFord · 11/04/2025 15:31

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 14:44

Well done Harry visiting Ukraine and with Invictus too. He was in and out before it could be reported on, which is even better.

Anyone who knocks this visit really needs to have a good look at themselves. He was at a rehabilitation centre for amputees and he was invited by the Chief Exec of the Centre, and of course the tie up with Invictus is relevant, as the CEO of Invictus said Ukraine is a vital part of the charity's work, and they were present too . Well done him.

@TulipTiptoer I agree that from a charitable point of view, it was a positive visit.

For someone who is so concerned about their safety and security though, it was ludicrous.

No one can be truly safe in a war zone, so he put himself and whomever accompanied him at risk.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 15:38

I am really not sure you can assert he put himself and whoever was with him at risk
No doubt appropriate measures were taken. After all, very many high profile people have gone in and out of Ukraine

My2cents1975 · 11/04/2025 15:50

H brings nothing to the table in Ukraine. He does not represent any country sending arms to Ukraine or supporting refugees from Ukraine.

H is not a major donor to Invictus but leaches off the public purse wherever Invictus is held as the financial reports show. UK, German and Canadian taxpayers have supported Invictus, but H has not reached into his pocket to substantially support the games. Instead, H has used veterans to improve his public profile, used Invictus to expense his overseas trips after "half-in half-out" was denied, and has tried to make money off veterans via filming them for Netflix.

Ukraine is in a very sensitive place needing more support from a very contrary Trump for the nation to literally survive the Russian onslaught. H better pray that Trump's stance (“I’ll leave him alone. He’s got enough problems with his wife. She’s terrible.”) remains the same. Moreover, H should hope his trip is not highlighted to Trump, so Trump does not retaliate by withholding weaponry/intelligence/other support from Ukraine.

KC3 needs to correct H's reckless behavior before H creates a diplomatic nightmare beyond KC3's ability to retrieve.

BruFord · 11/04/2025 15:55

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 15:38

I am really not sure you can assert he put himself and whoever was with him at risk
No doubt appropriate measures were taken. After all, very many high profile people have gone in and out of Ukraine

@Tul Surely anyone is more at risk in a war zone than in a country at peace, aren’t they?
Appropriate measures can’t prevent sudden shelling or bombing, for example.

If the other people who’ve visited were embroiled in court proceedings concerning their safety and security, it would be equally ridiculous. I don’t see how someone can be less safe in the UK right now than in an active war zone. I fear that his paranoia re. The UK must be extreme and not based in reality.

vera99 · 11/04/2025 15:55

My2cents1975 · 11/04/2025 15:50

H brings nothing to the table in Ukraine. He does not represent any country sending arms to Ukraine or supporting refugees from Ukraine.

H is not a major donor to Invictus but leaches off the public purse wherever Invictus is held as the financial reports show. UK, German and Canadian taxpayers have supported Invictus, but H has not reached into his pocket to substantially support the games. Instead, H has used veterans to improve his public profile, used Invictus to expense his overseas trips after "half-in half-out" was denied, and has tried to make money off veterans via filming them for Netflix.

Ukraine is in a very sensitive place needing more support from a very contrary Trump for the nation to literally survive the Russian onslaught. H better pray that Trump's stance (“I’ll leave him alone. He’s got enough problems with his wife. She’s terrible.”) remains the same. Moreover, H should hope his trip is not highlighted to Trump, so Trump does not retaliate by withholding weaponry/intelligence/other support from Ukraine.

KC3 needs to correct H's reckless behavior before H creates a diplomatic nightmare beyond KC3's ability to retrieve.

You are denying agency to Ukraine who de facto have backed this visit or else it wouldn't have taken place. It will have been approved at the highest level of that I have no doubt. I agree Trump is a malign influence but that point is irrelevant - if he turns on Harry because he made that visit - that's on him not Harry.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 15:59

BruFord · 11/04/2025 15:55

@Tul Surely anyone is more at risk in a war zone than in a country at peace, aren’t they?
Appropriate measures can’t prevent sudden shelling or bombing, for example.

If the other people who’ve visited were embroiled in court proceedings concerning their safety and security, it would be equally ridiculous. I don’t see how someone can be less safe in the UK right now than in an active war zone. I fear that his paranoia re. The UK must be extreme and not based in reality.

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How do you think others visit the country. I think it was a worthwhile visit for him and we obviously won't agree

As soon as I saw he'd been, I thought...here we go,.out comes all manner of criticisms.
Good for him I say

No point in discussing it with anyone who will find negativity in absolutely anything he does

BruFord · 11/04/2025 16:07

No point in discussing it with anyone who will find negativity in absolutely anything he does

@TulipTiptoer

I just don’t get his logic. He’s concerned about safety and security to such an extent that he undertakes costly legal proceedings-but then he visits a war zone? It doesn’t make sense to me.

I’d like him to do well in his new life and I don’t see why he and his family can’t make regular visits to the UK under the current security arrangements. They’d be fine, certainly safer than he was in Ukraine yesterday!

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 16:08

All the necessary arrangements will have been made for his visit to Ukraine.

Thedom · 11/04/2025 16:12

It's not just Harry getting criticism though, Harry the victim again, there has been plenty of criticism of celebs visiting Ukraine.

An extract from an article in The Hill. It is interesting to note there are no reports of a meet and greet between Zelensky and Harry, maybe it did happen discreetly, and we will see photos soon.

"But the visits to a war zone from rich and famous celebrities don’t come without criticism.

“I think it’s highly problematic, what they’re doing,” Ilan Kapoor, the author of “Celebrity Humanitarianism: The Ideology of Global Charity,” told ITK of Hollywood photo-ops in Ukraine.

“Who do [Hollywood stars] represent? If you think about it, they only represent themselves, and this is because they need and crave a public recognition to build up their brand,” added Kapoor, a professor of critical development studies at York University in Canada.

“It’s all about branding.”

Kapoor said he doesn’t fault Zelensky — himself a TV actor and famous face in Ukraine before he entered politics — for the star-studded meet-and-greets.

Darrell West, a vice president and director of governance studies at the Brookings Institution, says Zelensky’s high-profile get-togethers are a “great way to drive media coverage because reporters love celebrities, and so it’s a wonderful photo-op for Zelensky to be with a leading celebrity.”

BruFord · 11/04/2025 16:13

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 16:08

All the necessary arrangements will have been made for his visit to Ukraine.

@TulipTiptoer So the security provided could have stopped Putin from dropping a bomb or shelling the medical facility yesterday?

That’s like saying that anyone visiting Gaza right now with a security detail will be 100% safe guaranteed.

I don’t see how that’s possible in a war zone.

TulipTiptoer · 11/04/2025 16:20

BruFord · 11/04/2025 16:13

@TulipTiptoer So the security provided could have stopped Putin from dropping a bomb or shelling the medical facility yesterday?

That’s like saying that anyone visiting Gaza right now with a security detail will be 100% safe guaranteed.

I don’t see how that’s possible in a war zone.

I wonder how Boris Johnson managed it more than once, quite a few times if I remember correctly. And Anthony Blinken. And others

No one is 100% safe anywhere.
Well done him doing this visit.

wordler · 11/04/2025 16:24

There’s an interesting quote from a source close to Harry - pushing back in response to criticism of the Ukraine trip - which I think really gets to the heart of Harry’s security issue and why it’s obvious to most people that his court case is a fruitless exercise because he can’t see the wood for the trees.

The source says that Harry felt safe in Ukraine because the security he received there was so much more robust than that which he gets in the UK.

And that tells me he’s so caught up in his feelings about this issue that he’s not making the distinction that the reason his security was more robust in Ukraine was because he was in or at least at the edge of a war zone.

He had the security appropriate to the situation. Just like he gets in the UK. In both situations someone with intelligence knowledge has done a risk assessment and provided the security the situation called for.

But Harry isn’t able to distinguish between that - he feels safe only when he’s ‘robustly’ and obviously guarded by the highest level of security.

But RAVEC doesn’t operate on feelings and the tax payer shouldn’t be paying for just feelings.

Until Harry gets some help with understanding that issue he’s never going to be satisfied.

I really think for Harry it’s more about him being genuinely paranoid about his and his family’s safety than wanting it for his ego.

BruFord · 11/04/2025 16:27

@TulipTiptoer

If other visitors to war zones were embroiled in similar court cases regarding their safety and security, it would be equally bizarre.

@wordler Thanks, that’s a great explanation. Behavior driven by feelings, rather than logic, can seem illogical to others.