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A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan

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MonteShitshow · 21/03/2025 15:09

Hi everyone! As suggested on another thread, I’m starting this to provide some balance to the MM / MS threads which have been perceived as bullying and not joyful.

So please feel free to join in and share something pleasant and joyful about your day or any comments about MM / MS as an antidote if the other threads have caused you upset. Please be nice!

I’ll begin by saying that writing notes by hand is a lovely thing to do, and conveys sincerity beyond any effusive email or text message. And nice handwriting is a bonus! Hand cramp is a problem of the digital age.

Also, I’ve watched two episodes of the series now, and I love the garden plants in California. Waiting for the spring to bloom here!

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skullbabe · 19/06/2025 08:08

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 10/06/2025 08:56

Has anyone ever made, or are considering making the carrot tops pesto? I love pesto, I’m not sure whether this would be a uniquely flavoured twist, or just really a way to use up the tops with no other benefit?

I’ve made it - pretty much tastes “green” 🤣 if that makes any sense but good to use on pasta.

drivinmecrazy · 19/06/2025 10:31

EvieBB · 09/06/2025 23:25

Seriously though, Extianoiapeil, I feel there IS a need to speak up as it is blantantly clear that many people on here appear to have no idea what they are looking at with dynamic between Harry and Meghan and their families, friends and acquaintances....and that is disappointing.

Having said that, this is the very last time I shall be posting....so there is little point in replying as I shall not be opening any further messages and will not see anybody's responses to my final post. I'm sure you'll agree that we have all spent far too much time on this topic to say the least and we all have other things to be getting on with :)

I do not denigrate anyone for the sake of it. It isn’t unfair to point out established facts and patterns of behaviour and fwiw it gives me no pleasure at all to witness toxic and disordered relationships. I wish it was not so and that the ‘lovely’ Meghan we often see portrayed was the real her….not just for Harry’s sake, but for her own sake and especially for their children as well as for her wider family and for Harry’s wider family. Sadly, it isn’t the real her, for reasons explained in earlier posts and also for the reasons outlined below.

It is telling that Harry and Meghan have remained silent and have not sued Britain's leading investigative writer, Tom Bower, for libel over his book, “Revenge” about the pair. Bower has proof that his statements are accurate owing to extensive research therefore Markle would not risk being cross examined by his lawyer in a court of law. To explain why Meghan Markle is seen as having narcissistic traits and why my comments are not misplaced would take an entire book to explain, but I will try to sum up why she is so unpopular amongst millions of people. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but covers many examples of Meghan’s toxic behaviour as outlined (and fact checked) in Bower's book.

  • Meghan uses then discards people: Meghan used her first husband, Trevor Engleson, for Hollywood connections then abandoned him when he was no longer useful. She then abandoned her best friend (Ninaky Priddy), of 30 years when Ninaky pointed out Meghan was cruel to her husband. Meghan is hypersensitive to criticism. Nobody likes to be criticized of course, but she is an exaggerated version of what happens when ones egos is fragile….and she will cut someone off without a thought if they dare to criticize her, rather than possibly self reflect on her behaviour. However, narcissists are incapable of self-reflection or feelings of guilt or empathy. But they can mimic it. It's truly sad. She later abandoned her current best friend Jessica (who she used to social climb into Canada’s top social circle when she was let go from her Suits job). She abandoned her entire white family, she abandoned her entire black family minus her mother. She abandoned her L.A friends. She abandoned her dog. She abandoned her family members that were homeless instead of helping them (shocking). She abandoned the friends she made in Britain. She had no old friends or family (bar her mother) at her wedding. Very telling. She abandoned the Royal Family then bullied them in front of the entire world, including the Queen of England herself even though the Royal Family were kind, in fact over kind, and bent over backwards to help and guide her (she refused their help). They made many allowances for her as an American who wasn’t accustomed to British and Royal culture/customs. And I don’t believe for one moment that she had not heard of Prince Harry before she met him....why even point that out in the engagement interview? Methinks the lady doth protest too much. At this point, most everybody with any common sense can see that this pattern of abandonment cannot just be a coincidence. Several of her own family members forewarned others. Not just one. That cannot just be dismissed as coincidence. It wouldn’t be dismissed by a clinician.
  • Meghan is unkind: Meghan abandoned her loving husband by sending him the ring in the mail which courts could consider spousal abuse. Meghan reportedly abandoned her dog because he was “too old” for her. Meghan’s former Sorority Sister said she was “a bully in school”. She abandoned her own father when he had 2 heart attacks and nearly died and emotionally abuses him by promising to never let him see his grandchild ever again which is shocking considering all her Dad did was make ONE PR mistake. Meghan left her own family members to homelessness despite being a millionaire. Many of Meghan’s old staff have come forward to accuse her of being abusive to staff. You don’t shout and swear at highly qualified aides or domestic servants and certainly not at little children. You don’t throw scalding tea over a maid. You don’t tell the wife of the Governor General of Australia, where you are an official visitor, to F* off when she says tea throwing is not acceptable. You don’t insist that your husband pulls out of a solemn memorial service for a Corps of which he is Honorary Captain General because you want to go to a film premiere and have him beg for a job for you. You don’t use a royal title to promote a commercial business. You don’t treat a programme about the poorest area in the world as a chance to claim that you, living in the height of luxury with servants, are not thriving and barely surviving. You don’t (after your husband’s country has invested 32 million in your wedding and 3 million renovating your Royal cottage) then run off with your newly acquired titles to make money and fame for yourself abroad by slagging off the very institution that made you rich and famous in the first place! You certainly don’t cling on to a title given to you by an institution that you reportedly hate. It fails to make sense. You don’t arrange with an “interviewer” to deliver a carefully scripted diatribe, full of lies, twisted half truths and nasty innuendoes when your husband’s grandfather lay on his death bed - that is, unless you are a downright malignant narcissist.
  • Meghan loves fame/money: Meghan’s own best friend of 30 years said Meghan was “desperate to be famous” and “always dreamed of being a celebrity”. Meghan herself said she wanted to be a “household name”, that she “wanted to break the internet”. I don’t for one moment believe she married Harry for love. I believe it was for fame, power and more money. Her own family (who knew her best) called her a “diva”, a “narcissist” and “shallow”. Before she married Harry, she was already a multi-millionaire, but never donated any of her money to charity. She only ever showed up to charity events to smile for the cameras. And then when she got her title, she continued not to donate anything, yet spent $1 million on clothes in a year, $2–4 million of taxpayers money on her mansion, $500,000 on ONE celebrity filled party, spent 10 times more time hanging out with A list celebs like the Clooneys, the Beckhams, the Clintons and Beyonce than she ever did with the poor, and flew around on private jets while screeching about Climate Change.

People just can’t believe that this woman could be so unkind, so hypocritical, shallow, and vain. But it’s all true.

By the way - I feel sorry for people who have NPD. Bar her mother, her poor children have no family left to enrich their lives...and her friends tend to get dumped when they have served their purpose. It's very sad. However, the disorder is nearly impossible to treat so it’s best to get away unless you know how to manage it. If she has dirt on Harry (we all have secrets) she will try to hurt him if/when it ends. Her only way to control then, will be to control what others think about him (it’s always about control). His family will be there unconditionally I feel though. I hope the public will too.

👏 👏 👏

Maitri108 · 19/06/2025 10:57

drivinmecrazy · 19/06/2025 10:31

👏 👏 👏

👏 Thanks for quoting that ginormous post.👏

PeachPumpkin · 19/06/2025 12:30

I’m going to add that Meghan seems intelligent, charismatic and driven. I’m in awe of her resilience and self-belief after all the criticism she has had.

drivinmecrazy · 19/06/2025 13:54

Maitri108 · 19/06/2025 10:57

👏 Thanks for quoting that ginormous post.👏

You are most welcome.
can do it again if you like

Maitri108 · 19/06/2025 13:55

drivinmecrazy · 19/06/2025 13:54

You are most welcome.
can do it again if you like

Please do.💙

JustNavy · 19/06/2025 14:09

PeachPumpkin · 19/06/2025 12:30

I’m going to add that Meghan seems intelligent, charismatic and driven. I’m in awe of her resilience and self-belief after all the criticism she has had.

i think she has come to realise that most of the criticism is nothing to do with her personally but a way for certain people to try to elevate certain others. It reminds me of the quote about being fed to the wolves from their documentary.

Munnygirl · 19/06/2025 15:08

In the contrary most of the criticism is based on her personally and the performances she puts on in a desperate attempt to be liked. It’s pretty obvious there is nothing authentic about her and this has been her downfall along with the lies

decoratedgranolabanana · 19/06/2025 15:10

JustNavy · 19/06/2025 14:09

i think she has come to realise that most of the criticism is nothing to do with her personally but a way for certain people to try to elevate certain others. It reminds me of the quote about being fed to the wolves from their documentary.

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Oh for goodness sake 😂

CoffeeCantata · 20/06/2025 08:36

JustNavy · Yesterday 14:09
i think she has come to realise that most of the criticism is nothing to do with her personally but a way for certain people to try to elevate certain others. It reminds me of the quote about being fed to the wolves from their documentary.

😂This made me splutter my coffee!

If she's come to realise that, then she's more deluded and in denial than even I thought!

But maybe you're right - Meghan does not strike me as having any capacity for self-reflection and healthy self-doubt.

Yes - I think you're spot on: nothing could ever be her fault.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 20:10

Apologies for resurrecting this zombie thread!
please don’t rush to post just needed to tag someone!

@Samcro, are you ok?
I haven’t seen you around for quite awhile and I remembered that you mentioned having sen ds too , this time of year with upcoming changes can be difficult.
hope you are well , I was worried.

Radice · 15/07/2025 11:43

Thanks, I didn’t care much about Meghan at first honestly, I was indifferent to the Royal Family in general as I always seen the monarchy as outdated and waste of tax money. But what changed things for me was the vitriol directed at her. The media lies, the constant smear campaigns, and the fact that members of the Royal Household, like Jason Knauf, were actively briefing against her — it was shocking.

She did nothing to deserve the treatment she got. And yet she’s been vilified by royalists as if she were some kind of criminal or threat to the nation. As a journalist, I started following the situation casually, but the deeper I looked, the clearer it became: this wasn’t about protocol or tradition. It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

BemusedAmerican · 15/07/2025 14:19

Hey, back off on the wolves. They are having a hard time surviving in the US. They've been eliminated from the UK. No need to drag my ancestral mascot into this thread.

DeirdreDarling · 15/07/2025 14:32

Radice · 15/07/2025 11:43

Thanks, I didn’t care much about Meghan at first honestly, I was indifferent to the Royal Family in general as I always seen the monarchy as outdated and waste of tax money. But what changed things for me was the vitriol directed at her. The media lies, the constant smear campaigns, and the fact that members of the Royal Household, like Jason Knauf, were actively briefing against her — it was shocking.

She did nothing to deserve the treatment she got. And yet she’s been vilified by royalists as if she were some kind of criminal or threat to the nation. As a journalist, I started following the situation casually, but the deeper I looked, the clearer it became: this wasn’t about protocol or tradition. It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

Its a shame she remains silent on the numerous exposes of her repeated bullying of many employees over the years and across continents where professional intervention was required by some to ease the mental injury she inflicted on people just going to work.

The consistent and persistent testimonies of both victims and witnesses have been reported in multiple credible industry leading publications which would have water-tight legal counsel ahead of issue.

And its a shame she chooses to hold NDAs over her employees and collaborators in order to exert her immense privilege, power and control to silence.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/07/2025 15:38

@Radice

“The media lies, the constant smear campaigns, and the fact that members of the Royal Household, like Jason Knauf, were actively briefing against her — it was shocking.”

Can you give some examples of the lies ? We know that Meghan has told plenty but what lies have the media told. Smears ? Actively briefing? Again can we have some examples ?

Munnygirl · 15/07/2025 17:43

Radice · 15/07/2025 11:43

Thanks, I didn’t care much about Meghan at first honestly, I was indifferent to the Royal Family in general as I always seen the monarchy as outdated and waste of tax money. But what changed things for me was the vitriol directed at her. The media lies, the constant smear campaigns, and the fact that members of the Royal Household, like Jason Knauf, were actively briefing against her — it was shocking.

She did nothing to deserve the treatment she got. And yet she’s been vilified by royalists as if she were some kind of criminal or threat to the nation. As a journalist, I started following the situation casually, but the deeper I looked, the clearer it became: this wasn’t about protocol or tradition. It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

She lied on numerous occasions and got caught out on numerous occasions.l and it all came out of her own mouth . I also include Harry in the telling of lies as well

CoffeeCantata · 15/07/2025 18:58

DeirdreDarling · 15/07/2025 14:32

It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

Its a shame she remains silent on the numerous exposes of her repeated bullying of many employees over the years and across continents where professional intervention was required by some to ease the mental injury she inflicted on people just going to work.

The consistent and persistent testimonies of both victims and witnesses have been reported in multiple credible industry leading publications which would have water-tight legal counsel ahead of issue.

And its a shame she chooses to hold NDAs over her employees and collaborators in order to exert her immense privilege, power and control to silence.

Yes, NDAs while wittering on about wanting women to find and use their voice…

Hypocrisy off the scale!

CoffeeCantata · 16/07/2025 07:38

Radice · 15/07/2025 11:43

Thanks, I didn’t care much about Meghan at first honestly, I was indifferent to the Royal Family in general as I always seen the monarchy as outdated and waste of tax money. But what changed things for me was the vitriol directed at her. The media lies, the constant smear campaigns, and the fact that members of the Royal Household, like Jason Knauf, were actively briefing against her — it was shocking.

She did nothing to deserve the treatment she got. And yet she’s been vilified by royalists as if she were some kind of criminal or threat to the nation. As a journalist, I started following the situation casually, but the deeper I looked, the clearer it became: this wasn’t about protocol or tradition. It was about power, control, and scapegoating a woman who refused to be silent.

Do you totally discount the many allegations of Meghan’s bullying then, not just in the UK but in LA? Jason K was concerned about the way M was treating staff - I admire him for that.

The Queen had to intervene at least twice to reprimand M for her high-handed treatment of staff (actually, 3 times that I’ve heard of: the caterer, the gardener and also Angela Kelly….oh, and the wedding florist). Do you not see a pattern here? And in the US their ex-staff have formed a Sussex Survivors’ Club!

Even before her marriage to H Meghan had a reputation. The boss of Reitmann’s, for whom she did a modelling shoot, reported that she was horrible to his staff and said she was the most difficult person he’d ever had to deal with. She also nicked the shoes she was modelling.

I’m not even going into the way she treated her royal relatives here,

Are you seriously saying that you discount all this well-attested evidence of her character and conduct? If so, how and why do you defend her (or manage to ignore it)?

Genuinely intrigued!

CoffeeCantata · 16/07/2025 15:29

Looks like the H & M supporting journo is not answering questions. Oh well - I was keen to hear their views.

Sussex supporters rarely respond to questions,I find!

CoffeeCantata · 17/07/2025 19:39

So still just tumbleweed and silence from Radice?

I don’t know why people bother to post if they don’t want to engage with the discussion. Such a strange thing to do.

Spectre8 · 17/07/2025 20:57

CoffeeCantata · 17/07/2025 19:39

So still just tumbleweed and silence from Radice?

I don’t know why people bother to post if they don’t want to engage with the discussion. Such a strange thing to do.

Maybe they are busy and haven't had a chance to come back. Can't all be on here as much as you are and prioritisjg responding to posts. Careful your starting to look like a bully with posts like this

CoffeeCantata · 18/07/2025 08:44

Spectre8 · 17/07/2025 20:57

Maybe they are busy and haven't had a chance to come back. Can't all be on here as much as you are and prioritisjg responding to posts. Careful your starting to look like a bully with posts like this

We’re all busy, Spectre!

My point, which is a real bugbear of mine, is people who fly in like seagulls, drop …stuff…..on to the discussion, often making outrageous claims, and then disappear, refusing to engage when pulled up on their allegations. It’s like playground name-calling and then running away.

But I know it’s because I’m old-fashioned and expect people to behave with good will. These contributors clearly have no intention of engaging with the thread in the first place, and I think it’s because they know their case is really unarguable.

DeirdreDarling · 18/07/2025 11:07

Spectre8 · 17/07/2025 20:57

Maybe they are busy and haven't had a chance to come back. Can't all be on here as much as you are and prioritisjg responding to posts. Careful your starting to look like a bully with posts like this

Perhaps you could help out here @Spectre8 if PP is 'busy'?

Maybe take this opportunity to contribute your take on the consistent and persistent bullying allegations reported by numerous legally water-tight (as this usually highly litigeous couple have never legally challenged any of these allegations) books (Courtiers), newspapers (The Times), credible industry publications (The Hollywood Reporter, Vanity Fair, Access Hollywood) - which relayed the personal testimonies of multiple employees - both victims and witnesses - across a long time period on numerous continents of the bullying behaviour by MM - who drove competent people from their livihoods and left some with such emotional damage that medical intervention was required.

I would be really interested to hear the 'otherside' or an alternative interpretation.

Spectre8 · 18/07/2025 21:43

CoffeeCantata · 18/07/2025 08:44

We’re all busy, Spectre!

My point, which is a real bugbear of mine, is people who fly in like seagulls, drop …stuff…..on to the discussion, often making outrageous claims, and then disappear, refusing to engage when pulled up on their allegations. It’s like playground name-calling and then running away.

But I know it’s because I’m old-fashioned and expect people to behave with good will. These contributors clearly have no intention of engaging with the thread in the first place, and I think it’s because they know their case is really unarguable.

Well its not your forum you dont own it why are you policing it. People.can interact on a forum however they wish.

And yes we are all busy and sometimes that means people aren't free to post for days. I might post a comment whilst waiting for mt flight to tske off and then I won't post while im on holiday too busy, a week can easily go by.

Regardless people are still free to comment on this forum as they like, not how you would like them too. Go start your own forum if it bothers you so much then you can control people

Spectre8 · 18/07/2025 21:45

DeirdreDarling · 18/07/2025 11:07

Perhaps you could help out here @Spectre8 if PP is 'busy'?

Maybe take this opportunity to contribute your take on the consistent and persistent bullying allegations reported by numerous legally water-tight (as this usually highly litigeous couple have never legally challenged any of these allegations) books (Courtiers), newspapers (The Times), credible industry publications (The Hollywood Reporter, Vanity Fair, Access Hollywood) - which relayed the personal testimonies of multiple employees - both victims and witnesses - across a long time period on numerous continents of the bullying behaviour by MM - who drove competent people from their livihoods and left some with such emotional damage that medical intervention was required.

I would be really interested to hear the 'otherside' or an alternative interpretation.

They are allegations...

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