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If Harry still lived in the UK , do you think the feud would have been sorted by now?

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ThisPlumShark · 10/03/2025 17:34

I do feel the biggest hurdle between Harry and his family is that he lives in another country, I think if he lived in the UK there would be more opportunity for them to sort it out

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Not2identifying · 16/03/2025 09:14

Truly, I also don't believe there's any way back into the family after what he has said and done (and not said and not done) with regards to W & C. He might make up with his Dad, but surely never with W & C for their own sake (e.g. they could never trust him again).

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 09:14

Not2identifying · 16/03/2025 09:11

How would the RF enforce a NDA with Harry, if there was one? They can't take him to court without creating a spectacle so it would not just be useless, it would also be grist to the mill for our Prince Victim.

You would enforce it like any other NDA.
Harry wouldn’t be doing anything anyway…..his dragon slaying days would be over.

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 09:20

I don’t think anyone in the family or staff would trust him, therefore NDAs would be the only way for him to try and have some sort of family life.

Let’s face it. He’s a lazy so and so. He wants to be looked after. He wants security and drivers and people that open his mail and shine his shoes and not pay for it, while he goes off and plays polo.

I would think real life….well Harry’s version of real life…..would be a shock to him. He went from spending what …a few thousand a year to paying out millions. That unsustainable.

I think he would give it all up to return to comfort of the RF. But the RF would require a high price- renounce all titles and sign NDAs. Well if they had any sense anyway.

BasiliskStare · 16/03/2025 09:22

I think , and NB I an no US Immigration lawyer , he can be on an A1 HoS visa by being a member of the RF and 5th in line to the throne ( don't know how far being part of the RF extends for these purposes) , and as such he isn't precluded from working. And he can stay on this visa. It's a very very unusual and specific position. Is it appropriate given he isn't a working member of the RF , and his place of residence is the US? I'd say not but whatever the rules are those are the rules . I doubt it will be revealed what visa he is on so I suspect this will be a bit of a wash out. It looks like something which should be regularised but for how often the circumstances arise I suspect it is not thought to be worth the candle. I think there are also tax advantages as he doesn't have to declare money held abroad he has claim on.

It just looks again like he is very happy with the advantages of royalty , whilst making a mint out of saying how unhappy he was within "the institution "

Do anyone tell me if I have anything wrong here - I am merely a self confessed armchair US visa pundit 😂

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 09:36

Surely he can’t still be on an A1 visa now though? I understand 5 years ago.

Also, this current Administration pretty much do as they please. A South African diplomat is being punted home, the Colombian protester who has a green card and is married to an American is in detention. An immigration lawyer told the Daily Beast that Harry could be vulnerable to a politically motivated attack on his residential status, saying: “Department of State decisions are discretionary and very susceptible to political influence. His visa could be canceled. He could be denied entry upon return to the U.S. from foreign travel for inadmissibility due to prior drug usage, despite an unexpired visa in his passport. There are many scenarios where political influence could impact Harry’s ability to re-enter the U.S.”

I don’t think the Heritage Foundation will stop until Harry faces up to some consequences. Whatever that may look like, A1 visa or not.

MaturingCheeseball · 16/03/2025 09:43

What about his marriage? Doesn’t that confer green-card status after a while? Or he could pursue naturalisation - although I seem to remember he blathered on about not doing this a while ago.

I agree it will be a big heap of nothing: redacted bits and “as you were” being the conclusion.

One thing’s for sure - please, please don’t send the oaf back here 😭 Harry’s best option would be living the White Mischief life in an African country, playing polo and being waited on in the manner to which a Prince is entitled.

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 09:47

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj5nlxz44yo.amp

He has a green card and is married to an American….he is being deported.

This admin, will do what they want.

The heritage foundation is very influential. It’s is where project 2025 was developed, Which is now clearly a blueprint for Trump.

Image shows Mahmoud Khalil

Who is Mahmoud Khalil, the Palestinian activist facing US deportation? - BBC News

The Columbia University graduate had a key role in student protests over Gaza. Trump said his arrest was the first of "many to come".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj5nlxz44yo.amp

RevolutionaryMode · 16/03/2025 09:50

Or Trump will let Harry but one of those $5,000,000 green cards he is introducing.

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 10:00

RevolutionaryMode · 16/03/2025 09:50

Or Trump will let Harry but one of those $5,000,000 green cards he is introducing.

Good point, but I think you need to apply for citizenship for that.

There’s no way Harry will do that.

Not2identifying · 16/03/2025 10:16

A quick Google tells me that the way NDAs are enforced in the UK is through court for breach of contract. The RF won't be taking Harry to court.

Re the visa, the media has been teasing about more info for ages. I know a judge has said more must be shared but I bet it won't be very exciting. I, for one, hope he can stay where he is! In the unlikely event that Harry is deported I can't see Meghan wanting to live here so I think they'd have to find a third country to live in (by which I mean not the UK or the USA).

AtIusvue · 16/03/2025 10:31

Being a royal family member stops with whom…Zara? Is she on an A1 visa? Not all members of the RF will have that visa.

There must be more to it than that. I also think that it’s the British Gov that decides. They’ve taken away his security under RAVEC. He isn’t designated VIP status. Surely, in his court case- he would cite that he has an A1 visa- demonstrating his ‘elevated’ status and why he should have rolling security.

Tomatotater · 16/03/2025 10:51

Not2identifying · 16/03/2025 10:16

A quick Google tells me that the way NDAs are enforced in the UK is through court for breach of contract. The RF won't be taking Harry to court.

Re the visa, the media has been teasing about more info for ages. I know a judge has said more must be shared but I bet it won't be very exciting. I, for one, hope he can stay where he is! In the unlikely event that Harry is deported I can't see Meghan wanting to live here so I think they'd have to find a third country to live in (by which I mean not the UK or the USA).

Yes they will probably go to Portugal or somewhere. I don't know what the obsession is with Harry being kicked out of the US is. They will just go to another country to live. They can get plenty of investment visas, and he has enough money to do that. He will not go running back into the bosom of the RF and beg them for forgiveness. More likely he will blame them and the press for getting him kicked out of the US. I suspect a lot of the 'The children are borrowed actors' nonsense is to do with people not wanting the kids to exist, so that Harry will be free to leave his wife with no ties to her and no reminder that she is the mother of 2 Royal kids.

Baital · 16/03/2025 12:10

I think he's going to be a bit of a hostage to Trump's whims and ego. So they had better be careful they don't annoy him on the subject of social media controls...

Mylovelygreendress · 16/03/2025 12:16

Tomatotater · 16/03/2025 10:51

Yes they will probably go to Portugal or somewhere. I don't know what the obsession is with Harry being kicked out of the US is. They will just go to another country to live. They can get plenty of investment visas, and he has enough money to do that. He will not go running back into the bosom of the RF and beg them for forgiveness. More likely he will blame them and the press for getting him kicked out of the US. I suspect a lot of the 'The children are borrowed actors' nonsense is to do with people not wanting the kids to exist, so that Harry will be free to leave his wife with no ties to her and no reminder that she is the mother of 2 Royal kids.

I really can’t see Meghan living anywhere other than California. I know there were rumours about a property in Portugal but that was a while ago .
Harry always said he wanted to live in Africa but I really can’t see Meghan agreeing.

Tomatotater · 16/03/2025 12:33

Mylovelygreendress · 16/03/2025 12:16

I really can’t see Meghan living anywhere other than California. I know there were rumours about a property in Portugal but that was a while ago .
Harry always said he wanted to live in Africa but I really can’t see Meghan agreeing.

If Harry is angry and bitter now, can you imagine what he will be like if he is separated from his wife and children as a result of all this? Do the people cheering on a Right Wing MAGA group think he will just see the error of his ways if his family breaks down and he only gets to see his children when they get ferried across the Atlantic in the holidays? He will blame the press for hounding him out of the US and his family for standing by and letting it happen.The vitriol against them is probably one of the things holding them together. It will be far easier for him to blame the press/his family/online trolls for a potential family breakdown than to admit that after everything, he was wrong. He just wont do it.

BasiliskStare · 16/03/2025 12:42

I do think that the HoS visa ought to be reformed if it does cover the RF even if not a working member. If Harry is on this it seems completely inappropriate and he should be moved on to a more appropriate visa. But if this is entirely a decision for the US they'll decide. I too wonder @Atlasvue if the UK Govt had to "sponsor" him for it. In which case can they "unsponsor" him ?

I absolutely doubt anything really interesting / useful will be revealed. Except by implication ie if Harry was truthful about his drugs use then that with his other circs could imply an A1 HoS visa - which Heritage or the US Govt could argue is inappropriate for him and tighten up the rules a bit. But I doubt they will be bothered. The thing I think might become the talking point then - is if Harry admitted his drug use ( & I simply cannot cannot believe , not even Harry do I believe that he lied on his application ) why does his visa allow this to be a different rule for him to other diplomatic visa holders who are representing / working for their governments.

Short prediction from your friendly , local , armchair visa pundit , there'll be a flurry of newspaper articles and then it will probably sink without trace,

This re A1 HoS versus A1 - apologies if replication . From last year https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-us-visa-royal-drugs-b2546327.html

Prince Harry could be on rare royal US visa, expert says amid questions over drug use

Royals can hold special document requiring fewer checks than typical diplomatic visa, immigration lawyer says

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-us-visa-royal-drugs-b2546327.html

My2cents1975 · 16/03/2025 12:44

Baital · 16/03/2025 12:10

I think he's going to be a bit of a hostage to Trump's whims and ego. So they had better be careful they don't annoy him on the subject of social media controls...

I absolutely agree with you that they need to avoid annoying Trump.

Trump, while unlikely to deport, can in one tweet unleash the right-wing rage machine to devastating effect, decimating H&M's ability to generate positive publicity for any of their "projects" as H&M's bots would be completely overwhelmed.

The media environment in the UK is heavily regulated compared to the wild west of first amendment loving America. The negative press H&M have received to date is a gentle spring shower compared to the Category Five hurricane that can be directed their way.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 16/03/2025 12:48

Tomatotater · 16/03/2025 12:33

If Harry is angry and bitter now, can you imagine what he will be like if he is separated from his wife and children as a result of all this? Do the people cheering on a Right Wing MAGA group think he will just see the error of his ways if his family breaks down and he only gets to see his children when they get ferried across the Atlantic in the holidays? He will blame the press for hounding him out of the US and his family for standing by and letting it happen.The vitriol against them is probably one of the things holding them together. It will be far easier for him to blame the press/his family/online trolls for a potential family breakdown than to admit that after everything, he was wrong. He just wont do it.

I agree. Harry will blame everyone else for his own shortcomings. We’ve already seen it with the racist accusations. We heard what was said but in Harry’s head it was the media twisting his and Meghan’s words. I don’t know how he can’t see it at times. He really does think the public are incapable of reflection.

Thedom · 16/03/2025 13:17

I doubt Harry will ever be deported, I also would be surprised if he lied on his visa application considering his drug use was well publicised., there is certainly another smoking gun which was already mentioned, but that will continue to be redacted.

I think the most that will happen is some disclosure he used Royal privileges or connection to attain / fast track his visa, and even if he did that, it will have been regularised in the interim the minute Heritage Foundation started asking questions.

Harry must be seething about it though.

Vespanest · 16/03/2025 13:25

After the redactions I doubt there will be much left to see, we already know the thing that was deemed embarrassing for Harry is allowed to be kept private. I could imagine Americans being more angry if they are getting financial aid, legal protections or benefits than the drugs.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 16/03/2025 13:45

Tomatotater · 16/03/2025 10:51

Yes they will probably go to Portugal or somewhere. I don't know what the obsession is with Harry being kicked out of the US is. They will just go to another country to live. They can get plenty of investment visas, and he has enough money to do that. He will not go running back into the bosom of the RF and beg them for forgiveness. More likely he will blame them and the press for getting him kicked out of the US. I suspect a lot of the 'The children are borrowed actors' nonsense is to do with people not wanting the kids to exist, so that Harry will be free to leave his wife with no ties to her and no reminder that she is the mother of 2 Royal kids.

Mylovelygreendress beat me to it, but I don’t see Megz living outside the States. She is the most Californian person ever. And Hague means Harry can’t take the kids outside the States without her say so.

MaturingCheeseball · 16/03/2025 15:22

So what is the presumption about the £250k? That she pocketed it? Or actually never received it or “kindly” sent it back? Or the old tenner on the piece of elastic trick?!