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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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beachcitygirl · 06/03/2025 18:36

jerkchicken · 06/03/2025 13:48

I can’t understand the mindset behind clearly disliking MM but yet watching every episode of her show and spending what seems like hours researching and analysing her actions. Why give so much importance to someone you clearly are not a fan of? I don’t care for MM either way but can’t understand this level of obsession.

👏🏻 this with Bells on

Baital · 06/03/2025 18:42

Yorkshiredolls · 06/03/2025 18:07

My gosh have you really got that much time on your hands that you put so much effort into watching it all and then writing all that? Who cares

Then why comment?

Baital · 06/03/2025 18:44

Yorkshiredolls · 06/03/2025 18:07

My gosh have you really got that much time on your hands that you put so much effort into watching it all and then writing all that? Who cares

Because otherwise Meghan's fans criticise the poster for not having watched it all, and therefore being unqualified to comment.

Baital · 06/03/2025 18:45

User14March · 06/03/2025 13:57

The trad southern wives I know, admittedly small group, just love her. She gorgeous, glossy, stylish & bagged an English prince! They’re not her target market, it’s the aspiring averages I think l, who appear to have more disposable income than counterparts in the UK. Stack high in Trader Joes & Target & watch the mix fly.

'Bagged an English prince'?

That's seen as an achievement in 2025?

Ok...

BasiliskStare · 06/03/2025 18:52

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 17:11

We don't know how much they're going to cost either.

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Overhaul54 · 06/03/2025 18:52

Maybe putting the show out first before having products means she's not contravening any laws on product placement or mis selling.

The fact that they pop up a few months later for people to buy doesn't necessitate her having to say she's selling rather than making a regular show?

LaBarruci · 06/03/2025 19:00

There is also another serious "if" about this scheme, and that is if Netflix keep her on, with the promise of making more shows in the same vein as With Love, Meghan. If they cut their losses and terminate the contract, where will she (discreetly) plug her products?

Chuchoter · 06/03/2025 19:16

It won't work because now people have seen it they don't need to watch any more of it now the initial curiosity is over.

minnienono · 06/03/2025 19:26

Packet mixes especially for baking are far more mainstream in the USA, they are likely to be better received than in the U.K. where we either bake from scratch or buy readymade

Polecat07 · 06/03/2025 19:31

I do find the idea of a Netflix store odd, will they just sell merch from their shows then? And Meghan jam?
I heard on a podcast the other day that these will be bricks and mortar shops as well, not just an online thing.
Will be interesting to see how that goes.

2024onwardsandup · 06/03/2025 19:34

FamiChiki · 06/03/2025 13:27

It's .... Just..Not that deep? We live in a capitalist society. People sell themselves and sell their products to support their brand.. if I could be in Cali making jam and nice memories with my kids, then fuck me, I'd be there in a heartbeat, and I'm a right cynical bastard 😅

I assume if she was living here it would be people ranting about "British taxpayers" funding whatever aspects of their lives, and you would be hating on her about that instead.

Look at the Kardashians. Selling their makeup, shapewear, whatever. Or Oprah shilling her weight loss stuff, books, I don't even know. Do you get offended enough to essay about them? It's all optional to engage with, and you don't have to be offended by it?! This is such a thorough assassination of the Meghan stuff that I almost could believe it's some sort of new counter-culture form of advertising, where people will assume the show and product can't actually be that bad, because the vitriol is so disproportionate to the actual subject matter?!

I can't bring myself to care if she's grifting. It's jars of jam, flowers and a pleasant looking lifestyle FFS, she's not hurting anyone. If anything I'm jealous of her, she looks healthy and happy and dare I say able to poke fun at herself more than I'd realised prior to watching a few episodes (never engaged with her stuff before she hrpugh ambivalence).

Roy Choi was fun to watch too and his food looks incredible . May I add, I am an anti-royalist, but fuck me, let them get on with their very nice looking life without being hurt personally by the fluff and glamour and aspirational advertising. Everyone does it, people with a brain can filter put what they really want to buy and support. I'd love to try her jam, and I hate influencing as much as the next person, but this form is certainly more soothing than some!

She is exploiting British culture though - through her continued association of herself with monarchy - most obviously calling herself Dichess of Sussex.

I'm not a fan of the monarchy - but I think exploiting it in this way is pretty shitty

glitterturd · 06/03/2025 20:00

Even Dolly's are only 4 bucks!

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
sleetysnowflakes · 06/03/2025 20:17

Ironic that one of PH’s very understandable complaints about his early life was it feeling like “the Truman show” and I think there was somewhere else that he alluded to other royal women as being stepford wives…

It seems like he’s now living elements of both.

DelectableMe · 06/03/2025 20:21

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 13:59

Genius? Really?

You think there's a huge market for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes among "aspiring lower middle class" men? You think these men are all watching Meghan's show and wishing they too could be making fruit rainbows in her rented kitchen?

I know! That's such an odd scenario!

DelectableMe · 06/03/2025 20:24

sleetysnowflakes · 06/03/2025 20:17

Ironic that one of PH’s very understandable complaints about his early life was it feeling like “the Truman show” and I think there was somewhere else that he alluded to other royal women as being stepford wives…

It seems like he’s now living elements of both.

That's an excellent point. I read one review (was it the Guardian?) which made the point about Harry wanting to leave the publicity and limelight behind, but married a woman who wanted as much of that as she could get.

DelectableMe · 06/03/2025 20:26

Baital · 06/03/2025 18:45

'Bagged an English prince'?

That's seen as an achievement in 2025?

Ok...

Also...the English prince is Harry 🤮....such an achievement!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 06/03/2025 21:05

I think this is an over egged theory, sorry OP.

Netflix put up a not-100m figure for production of content. They wanted the interview series, the rest was conditional on produced content of which this was the last delivered piece.

At the same time, NF were developing stores to merch a variety of goods related to their shows.

As it happens, their production company has produced shit-all of value since the interviews, and as such Meghan is a) desperate for sales of her goods and therefore eager to partner even if NF will take a substantial cut and b) is such a basic business bitch that she only had room for one set of ideas to cover both the show and her products and though she was being subtle.

They really, REALLY don't have the sort of pull or nous to get Netflix to do this all for them.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 06/03/2025 21:06

@AtIusvue I think that's a really astute analysis of what's going on here. I don't see it working for Meghan Markle, because I don't think the people who could afford her stuff will aspire to it. She's too naff and her ideas are old hat. But as an idea for future content with a different star as the vehicle and a desirable product line, I think you could be on to something.

Hortus · 06/03/2025 21:07

I was going to ask about the packet mixes and if Americans use them, as here in Britain it's very much looked down on to use a packet mix. It's hardly difficult to make a cake or shortbread or else buy them readymade.
I couldn't imagine why she'd sell packet mixes but if more Americans use them it explains it. Do Americans who say they can cook use them too?
I've just watched about ten minutes of the first episode because I was curious, but I had to turn it off and won't watch any more. It turned my stomach with her vocal fry voice, the constant plinky plonky music and discussing with the make up artist friend what a great cook she is and how much cooking is her "love language", even though she referred to spaghetti as noodles on several occasions. A great cook would have been shown making the three dips instead of dips appearing in bowls on a platter with no mention of her making them, so presumably she hadn't, the only thing we saw was her cutting a couple of veg and arranging them in a pattern on the platter and dropping a couple of flowers on the top. I seriously doubt she ever cooks, they're bound to have their own chef.
None of it felt genuine at all. I agree with OP that it's a marketing tool, not only for the products, but also to try to rehabilitate their image - " see I'm really just a sweet little housewife who lives to make others' lives wonderful", rather than a couple who publicly slagged off the royal family both individually and as an institution, made unfounded accusations and told downright lies.

Jacquettes · 06/03/2025 21:07

Because otherwise Meghan's fans criticise the poster for not having watched it all, and therefore being unqualified to comment.

Surely not? Who is that invested that they’d watch 8 episodes of a show to write an essay long theory in order to forestall criticism from fans of Meghan?

Edited: because somehow I lost the post I was quoting.

ladymalfoy45 · 06/03/2025 21:14

T K Maxx by Christmas. With the chocolate covered liquorice and leg warmers for very small dogs. Next to the Bayliss and Harding 2023 gift sets.

Goldenrobin · 06/03/2025 21:50

I watch American YouTube channels and they all call dried pasta, noodles.

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 21:52

DelectableMe · 06/03/2025 20:21

I know! That's such an odd scenario!

It is, isn't it?

As I said, the poster seems to have a rather condescending view of 'average' Americans. I'm trying to picture all these 'lower middle class' American men willing to pay big bucks for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes, but I just can't.

But maybe 'genius' Meghan has stumbled upon a gap in the "lah-dee-da" shortbread mix market unknown to all of us?

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 06/03/2025 21:55

The people who hate H&M and want them to shut up and go away, consume so much news, shows, books etc. they’ll be ordering stuff from her website soon to try it out so they can talk about how shit it is. Honestly you are making her a success. The newspapers only write about her because people click on stories about her. People like you.

keyboardtypo · 06/03/2025 21:58

Isn't this the point of a lifestyle brand?

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