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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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MargaretThursday · 14/03/2025 21:02

This is totally fascinating. I haven't seen such cheerful optimism in the face of adverse facts since the videos of Saddam Hussein proclaiming they were winning and driving people back while you could see the approach in the background.
I'd love to know what powers it. We could do with some of that in the face of the economy/house prices/Trump etc. Maybe if they could bottle it, they'd make a fortune!

One of the earlier threads I read was back in about October/November where someone was being equally optimistic about MM definitely getting the trademark for american riviera orchard and how they'd come back and laugh at all the people who said she wouldn't.
They should get together, and they'd have a lovely time being cheerful together. It's rather sweet in some ways.

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 21:23

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 20:24

There is no need to brainwash anybody into anything. You can choose to keep your opinions. That won't impact Meghan's marketability.

The fact that you have strong, negative opinions on someone does not mean that these same opinions are shared unanimously. It is just a matter of fact.

I was asked who is MM marketing her products to and I just provided an answer.

I have not had an answer to my original query - why being so invested in a public figure that you deem awful when you could just "cancel" them by ignoring them.

Calling me a rabid fan won't change the fact the MM's image has not been poisoned ,despite trying so desperately, to a section of society. Hence why, she is still a marketable figure.

These are not things that I am making up, you can see it with your eyes by choosing to also engage with positive MM content.

I was asked who is MM marketing her products to and I just provided an answer.

You didn't really provide an 'answer'. You just made vague comments about 'people' without providing any facts.

And while I'm not sure what "positive MM content" is when it's at home, you're not going to run a profitable brand selling jam 'raspberry spread' to a handful of adoring superfans on Twitter. As I said above, she only has 2.5 million Instagram followers which really is not much. She got about the same number of views for her NF show, and 'part two' will likely have fewer.

Will you be shelling out for some 'As Ever' flower sprinkles yourself, if ever they exist?

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 21:53

The full catalogue is not available yet, and most importantly we do not know in what direction and how much the brand will expand with time.

It is rather delusional to think that there is no market for it.

People who are in the market for the type of products that are going to be included in the catalogue, are likely to opt for As Ever because they like the brand MM. It is as simple as that. Obviously they will have to also be satisfied with the product itself for this business venture to be sustainable.

Despite the online bashers and a noticeable effort from the media, the reason why these companies are still investigating in MM so heavily is because her personal brand is still marketable. No company is going to throw money at you and invest in your business ventures if they think otherwise.

As for WLM, it did very well for a cooking show(how many of those do you really see in the top 10?)
I believe the show has achieved what it was meant to achieve

  1. To further distance her brand from the Royal brand (as opposed to the documentary)
  2. To bring in viewership
  3. To reintroduce MM into the lifestyle arena( they obviously have a vested interest in doing so)
jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 22:20

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 20:24

There is no need to brainwash anybody into anything. You can choose to keep your opinions. That won't impact Meghan's marketability.

The fact that you have strong, negative opinions on someone does not mean that these same opinions are shared unanimously. It is just a matter of fact.

I was asked who is MM marketing her products to and I just provided an answer.

I have not had an answer to my original query - why being so invested in a public figure that you deem awful when you could just "cancel" them by ignoring them.

Calling me a rabid fan won't change the fact the MM's image has not been poisoned ,despite trying so desperately, to a section of society. Hence why, she is still a marketable figure.

These are not things that I am making up, you can see it with your eyes by choosing to also engage with positive MM content.

Umm well right back at you… the fact you have strong position feelings towards Meghan doesn’t mean anyone else does!! 🤣

and no one including me called you a rabid fan on here!
over reaching perhaps?

or has someone accused you of that on another platform?

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 22:23

Also would like a list of these companies that are investing “ heavily “ In Meghan?
without proper proof it’s just more hyperbole!

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 22:29

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 21:53

The full catalogue is not available yet, and most importantly we do not know in what direction and how much the brand will expand with time.

It is rather delusional to think that there is no market for it.

People who are in the market for the type of products that are going to be included in the catalogue, are likely to opt for As Ever because they like the brand MM. It is as simple as that. Obviously they will have to also be satisfied with the product itself for this business venture to be sustainable.

Despite the online bashers and a noticeable effort from the media, the reason why these companies are still investigating in MM so heavily is because her personal brand is still marketable. No company is going to throw money at you and invest in your business ventures if they think otherwise.

As for WLM, it did very well for a cooking show(how many of those do you really see in the top 10?)
I believe the show has achieved what it was meant to achieve

  1. To further distance her brand from the Royal brand (as opposed to the documentary)
  2. To bring in viewership
  3. To reintroduce MM into the lifestyle arena( they obviously have a vested interest in doing so)
Edited

What's the 'brand MM'?

I thought she was Meghan Sussex now?

As for companies 'investigating' into MM, could you be specific? She has no brand partnerships that I'm aware, just her own 'brand' which doesn't actually sell anything. I'm also not aware of anyone 'throwing money at her' these days so again could you be specific?

Have you ordered any edible flowers? Oh wait you can't because there aren't any products on sale.

glitterturd · 14/03/2025 22:54

@LipglossAlly it's not a cooking show - Netflix don't even tout it as one!

Mylovelygreendress · 14/03/2025 22:55

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 21:53

The full catalogue is not available yet, and most importantly we do not know in what direction and how much the brand will expand with time.

It is rather delusional to think that there is no market for it.

People who are in the market for the type of products that are going to be included in the catalogue, are likely to opt for As Ever because they like the brand MM. It is as simple as that. Obviously they will have to also be satisfied with the product itself for this business venture to be sustainable.

Despite the online bashers and a noticeable effort from the media, the reason why these companies are still investigating in MM so heavily is because her personal brand is still marketable. No company is going to throw money at you and invest in your business ventures if they think otherwise.

As for WLM, it did very well for a cooking show(how many of those do you really see in the top 10?)
I believe the show has achieved what it was meant to achieve

  1. To further distance her brand from the Royal brand (as opposed to the documentary)
  2. To bring in viewership
  3. To reintroduce MM into the lifestyle arena( they obviously have a vested interest in doing so)
Edited

Strange you should talk about Meghan distancing herself from the Royal brand when we all know she wouldn’t have the show / podcasts etc if it wasn’t for the fact that she married a Prince .
And she is VERY keen to remind people about her Royal status !

Serenster · 14/03/2025 22:56

It is rather delusional to think that there is no market for it.

Of course there will a market for it. You said it yourself, there are people who will support everything she does, no matter what. But she needs to reach a big market to make serious money out of As Ever.

Those posters who have been here a while have been accused of being delusional a lot. Meghan and Harry were going to be earning a million dollars for every speaking engagement. They were going to be producing high rating, award winning shows. They absolutely wouldn’t be doing a show about themselves. Pearl would be picked up by another network. Archetypes would be groundbreaking and incredibly successful. Etc etc. Funnily enough, it wasn’t us who turned out to be completely wrong about those things.

JuliaLivilla · 14/03/2025 23:39

glitterturd · 07/03/2025 10:43

Shortbread should not be so thin. It shouldn't be interfered with in any way - not even chocolate chips. 😂

I'm extremely late to the party (the story of my life), but macadamia shortbread is divine: either chunks of macadamia used in the dough or some macadamia meal added to mixture. The flavours complement each other beautifully.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 15/03/2025 09:16

MargaretThursday · 14/03/2025 21:02

This is totally fascinating. I haven't seen such cheerful optimism in the face of adverse facts since the videos of Saddam Hussein proclaiming they were winning and driving people back while you could see the approach in the background.
I'd love to know what powers it. We could do with some of that in the face of the economy/house prices/Trump etc. Maybe if they could bottle it, they'd make a fortune!

One of the earlier threads I read was back in about October/November where someone was being equally optimistic about MM definitely getting the trademark for american riviera orchard and how they'd come back and laugh at all the people who said she wouldn't.
They should get together, and they'd have a lovely time being cheerful together. It's rather sweet in some ways.

That's funny, I often think of so called "Comical Ali" when reading the output of certain posters.

marcopront · 15/03/2025 09:56

@LipglossAlly

Your answer to who will buy these products seems to be people who will buy these products.

You also keep insisting she is distancing herself from the royal family, then why is she using her title?

Mylovelygreendress · 15/03/2025 10:01

marcopront · 15/03/2025 09:56

@LipglossAlly

Your answer to who will buy these products seems to be people who will buy these products.

You also keep insisting she is distancing herself from the royal family, then why is she using her title?

I asked the same question and was told it’s because she is married to the DoS.
So this - allegedly- strong, independent feminist uses the family name .
I agree she will never willingly stop using the title or insisting on being ma’am .
Of course no other member of the RF is accorded that respect!

pursuitOfSomething · 15/03/2025 10:22

Why are you so invested in her and her brand, if it's not your cup of tea?

I pay for netflix - I watched her show - had an opinion - saw thread about show and her name and had time so commented.

I find them mildly interesting, annoying and amusing and they crop up on here and in my newsfeeds occasionally.

I found it interesting trying to work out the strategy from netflix and Meghan with this show and products becuae frankly I don't "get it" and yes do that with other brands in news - like Tesla.

Just because I'm not gushing all over her doesn't mean I hate the woman though watching them go from world wide platform to selling jam and prepackaged food is odd and fasinating all on it's own as we usually don't see reverse trajectories as they tend to be less public. I also think it demonstrated how odd RF "fame" actually is as it the combinations of positions as well as personalities that make it what it is.

glitterturd · 15/03/2025 10:52

@JuliaLivilla you heathen 😂😂😂

LipglossAlly · 15/03/2025 11:33

pursuitOfSomething · 15/03/2025 10:22

Why are you so invested in her and her brand, if it's not your cup of tea?

I pay for netflix - I watched her show - had an opinion - saw thread about show and her name and had time so commented.

I find them mildly interesting, annoying and amusing and they crop up on here and in my newsfeeds occasionally.

I found it interesting trying to work out the strategy from netflix and Meghan with this show and products becuae frankly I don't "get it" and yes do that with other brands in news - like Tesla.

Just because I'm not gushing all over her doesn't mean I hate the woman though watching them go from world wide platform to selling jam and prepackaged food is odd and fasinating all on it's own as we usually don't see reverse trajectories as they tend to be less public. I also think it demonstrated how odd RF "fame" actually is as it the combinations of positions as well as personalities that make it what it is.

Thank you!This is an answer that actually makes sense to me! I would expect this type of attitude from a person that is quite indifferent to MM.

Now I am waiting for the " I think she is a bully/ must awful human on earth" crowd to provide an answer to my original query.

LipglossAlly · 15/03/2025 11:41

Mylovelygreendress · 15/03/2025 10:01

I asked the same question and was told it’s because she is married to the DoS.
So this - allegedly- strong, independent feminist uses the family name .
I agree she will never willingly stop using the title or insisting on being ma’am .
Of course no other member of the RF is accorded that respect!

I know that this will sound confusing to some, but strong feminists do take their husbands name if they feel like doing so(I know.... surprise surprise).
Feminists do cook if they enjoy doing so( no ,that doesn't make them trad wives as suggested in other threads).
Feminists can enjoy hosting, if they are into these kind of things.

However, I am not surprised that some people may have a flat, unidimensional view of women.

You are either the home maker who chooses to take her husband's name or an angry feminist that wishes to burn it all down right?

jeffgoldblum · 15/03/2025 11:41

LipglossAlly · 15/03/2025 11:33

Thank you!This is an answer that actually makes sense to me! I would expect this type of attitude from a person that is quite indifferent to MM.

Now I am waiting for the " I think she is a bully/ must awful human on earth" crowd to provide an answer to my original query.

I’ve already answered you 3 times!!
just because you don’t want to , or don’t like the answer is really a you issue!

you in return have failed to answer my rather simple question!

why do you continue to defend and cheerlead for liars and bullies you don’t know?

why do you feel compelled to question others who clearly don’t agree with you?

you are basically turning up and using arguments and scripts from 5 years ago ! , you will not change anyone’s mind by parroting old arguments that have been debunked hundreds of times by multiple posters.

glitterturd · 15/03/2025 12:27

Meanwhile Meghan's show is disappearing ....

marcopront · 15/03/2025 13:13

@LipglossAlly

I am going to ask my question again as you seem to have missed it

If she is distancing herself from the royal family, why is she using her title? You have justified the surname but not the title.

NormaMajors1992coat · 15/03/2025 13:18

She’s hardly distancing herself from the RF, snapping at her ‘friend’ Mindy to call her Sussex (from her title gifted by QE2) 🤦‍♀️

The last thing she wants is to break the association with the RF, who would she be then?

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 15/03/2025 13:19

Why didn't Harry change his name to Markle if feminist Meghan wanted equal surnames? Or why didn't they all double barrel?

1WanderingWomble · 15/03/2025 13:23

Both Harry and Meghan changed their name on marriage so in that respect it's actually quite egalitarian.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 15/03/2025 13:35

1WanderingWomble · 15/03/2025 13:23

Both Harry and Meghan changed their name on marriage so in that respect it's actually quite egalitarian.

Did they? Harry remains Mountbatten Windsor, the same as his children (as per their birth announcements). Did Meghan change her name to this also? Sussex is not a legal surname.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/03/2025 14:00

Did Meghan change her name when married to Trevor ?