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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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BelfastBug · 14/03/2025 17:48

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:39

Anyway, If you want to continue to engage in this negativity, for a person that lives an ocean away from you and whose relationship with the UK and the RF is almost non- existent, It is your choice.

At the end of the day we all have free will with regards to how much mental space and energy we want to allocate to what.

I would add that for a cooking show, Meghan did and is doing really well. I am sure her products definitely have a market.

Again for the life of me, I will never understand why people wouldn't just ignore and actively try to cancel celebrities that they claim to despise.

Again for the life of me, I will never understand why people wouldn't just ignore and actively try to cancel celebrities that they claim to despise.

Am doing my best to get her cancelled - but my strategy is to shine a light her bullying - not ignore it - why would anyone be complicit in that?

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 17:48

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:39

Anyway, If you want to continue to engage in this negativity, for a person that lives an ocean away from you and whose relationship with the UK and the RF is almost non- existent, It is your choice.

At the end of the day we all have free will with regards to how much mental space and energy we want to allocate to what.

I would add that for a cooking show, Meghan did and is doing really well. I am sure her products definitely have a market.

Again for the life of me, I will never understand why people wouldn't just ignore and actively try to cancel celebrities that they claim to despise.

No answer to my question then?
I answered you in good faith several times!

why do you defend a bully and liar you don’t know?
why do you care what others post?

her so called cooking show is 1 not a cooking show is a extremely long advert to flog her products.
2 not doing well its being universally panned world wide !
and 3 its patently obvious that Meghan hasn’t the first idea how to cook , let alone advise others!!!

Mylovelygreendress · 14/03/2025 17:50

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:39

Anyway, If you want to continue to engage in this negativity, for a person that lives an ocean away from you and whose relationship with the UK and the RF is almost non- existent, It is your choice.

At the end of the day we all have free will with regards to how much mental space and energy we want to allocate to what.

I would add that for a cooking show, Meghan did and is doing really well. I am sure her products definitely have a market.

Again for the life of me, I will never understand why people wouldn't just ignore and actively try to cancel celebrities that they claim to despise.

What products ?

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:50

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:39

Anyway, If you want to continue to engage in this negativity, for a person that lives an ocean away from you and whose relationship with the UK and the RF is almost non- existent, It is your choice.

At the end of the day we all have free will with regards to how much mental space and energy we want to allocate to what.

I would add that for a cooking show, Meghan did and is doing really well. I am sure her products definitely have a market.

Again for the life of me, I will never understand why people wouldn't just ignore and actively try to cancel celebrities that they claim to despise.

I would also like to add that I agree with previous posts. This show was also meant to be a vehicle for her products placement and to reintroduce MM as a lifestyle figure( I wouldn't use the word rebrand as MM has been producing lifestyle content since the Tig days)

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 17:56

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:50

I would also like to add that I agree with previous posts. This show was also meant to be a vehicle for her products placement and to reintroduce MM as a lifestyle figure( I wouldn't use the word rebrand as MM has been producing lifestyle content since the Tig days)

Edited

How can you 'place' products which don't yet exist? Terrible business strategy.

And as a poster with some expertise in these matters said a few weeks ago, the whole 'lifestyle' thing was already old hat when she had the Tig. It seems very 2009 now.

Serenster · 14/03/2025 18:05

( I wouldn't use the word rebrand as MM has been producing lifestyle content since the Tig days)

And yet she has not used the Tig here - it is “With Love Meghan” and “As Ever”. You may not choose to use the word, but it is literally a rebrand.

I’d also note that the content has changed - the Tig was largely a travel, fashion and shopping/eating out blog. There were recipes and lifestyle tips, but they were not its major focus.

My2cents1975 · 14/03/2025 18:07
bird balancing GIF

Seen this tactic before...

BelfastBug · 14/03/2025 18:08

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 17:50

I would also like to add that I agree with previous posts. This show was also meant to be a vehicle for her products placement and to reintroduce MM as a lifestyle figure( I wouldn't use the word rebrand as MM has been producing lifestyle content since the Tig days)

Edited

She would be best to have some 'fun' and lean into her core band values for authenticity eg she could flog packets of:

Grandiose Gravy

Delusional Dough

Entitled Eggs

Arrogant Almond Milk

Sour Salad Dressing

Harassing Hallibut (salted)

Hounding Dog Biscuits

Brittle Banana Bread

Bitter Blueberry Butter

Belittling Shortbread

Bullying Bullion

Lying Lemon Spread

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:09

Don't forget that we still have a season 2 that I believe will be televised in Autumn.

Despite the market strategy, and irrespective of what we might think, there is still a potential market for it.
I have seen many comments on my side of the algorithm of people that are eager to buy into this brand.

To the poster who said that she/he is trying to cancel Meghan by bringing up the bullying allegations - it won't work.
Let me be precise, it may work with those living in the daily mail/ the Sun/ MM basher' bubble who are definitely not Meghan's target anyway.

The rest of the world don't care. The side of SM trying to replicate her recipes and questioning this forced outrage over a cooking show won't simply buy into these things.

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 18:14

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:09

Don't forget that we still have a season 2 that I believe will be televised in Autumn.

Despite the market strategy, and irrespective of what we might think, there is still a potential market for it.
I have seen many comments on my side of the algorithm of people that are eager to buy into this brand.

To the poster who said that she/he is trying to cancel Meghan by bringing up the bullying allegations - it won't work.
Let me be precise, it may work with those living in the daily mail/ the Sun/ MM basher' bubble who are definitely not Meghan's target anyway.

The rest of the world don't care. The side of SM trying to replicate her recipes and questioning this forced outrage over a cooking show won't simply buy into these things.

A potential market for what, exactly?

What is it that makes people, including it would seem yourself 'eager to buy into this brand'? What about this 'brand' is attractive to you? What makes it stand out in a highly competitive market? You've said who you don't think are Meghan's target market, but who is her target market? What is her USP?

BelfastBug · 14/03/2025 18:20

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:09

Don't forget that we still have a season 2 that I believe will be televised in Autumn.

Despite the market strategy, and irrespective of what we might think, there is still a potential market for it.
I have seen many comments on my side of the algorithm of people that are eager to buy into this brand.

To the poster who said that she/he is trying to cancel Meghan by bringing up the bullying allegations - it won't work.
Let me be precise, it may work with those living in the daily mail/ the Sun/ MM basher' bubble who are definitely not Meghan's target anyway.

The rest of the world don't care. The side of SM trying to replicate her recipes and questioning this forced outrage over a cooking show won't simply buy into these things.

I'm sat here with the pop-corn waiting for the class action from a group of past and present employees - no doubt there are currently attorneys beavering away in LA to take the case and represent the victims. That should do it.

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 18:20

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:09

Don't forget that we still have a season 2 that I believe will be televised in Autumn.

Despite the market strategy, and irrespective of what we might think, there is still a potential market for it.
I have seen many comments on my side of the algorithm of people that are eager to buy into this brand.

To the poster who said that she/he is trying to cancel Meghan by bringing up the bullying allegations - it won't work.
Let me be precise, it may work with those living in the daily mail/ the Sun/ MM basher' bubble who are definitely not Meghan's target anyway.

The rest of the world don't care. The side of SM trying to replicate her recipes and questioning this forced outrage over a cooking show won't simply buy into these things.

Wrong , wrong , wrong!
gone are the days when you could brush the bullying allegations under the carpet and blame the U.K. and the U.K. media!

the most harsh criticism and the recent bullying allegations were from US publications and US citizens!

was fucking grifters a U.K. comment? No that would be an American!

was disaster tourists a U.K. comment? No that would be an American !

the second part of this “ cooking” show will fare even worse than the first part! , curiosity and “ hate” viewing only takes you so far! , never have I seen a program so monumentally panned!
even polo didn’t get this reaction!

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 14/03/2025 18:21

To add to @IcedPurple 's question, how do you know you can afford whatever "it" is she is not yet selling?

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:46

Even if these allegations are coming from American media outlets, many people are still not buying it.

There is increasing distrust in legacy media( which presents advantages and very dangerous downsides).

I also believe that the fact that so many articles and think pieces around a cooking show were pushed out and the intensity with which the media covers her in general, is really putting some people off. They feel that something is not adding up. It all feels forced and disproportionate after a while.

All of this to say, there is a very lucrative and noisy MM hate train. However, there is an entire world of people outside this bubble who simply won't buy into it. Don't let the algorithm and legacy media deceive you into thinking otherwise.

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 18:51

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:46

Even if these allegations are coming from American media outlets, many people are still not buying it.

There is increasing distrust in legacy media( which presents advantages and very dangerous downsides).

I also believe that the fact that so many articles and think pieces around a cooking show were pushed out and the intensity with which the media covers her in general, is really putting some people off. They feel that something is not adding up. It all feels forced and disproportionate after a while.

All of this to say, there is a very lucrative and noisy MM hate train. However, there is an entire world of people outside this bubble who simply won't buy into it. Don't let the algorithm and legacy media deceive you into thinking otherwise.

Edited

For someone who swanned onto this thread demanding answers to completely off topic 'questions', you don't seem keen to answer questions related to your own posts.

What is the market for Meghan's 'products'? What is their USP? What makes you so confident she has the makings of a successful brand?

Mylovelygreendress · 14/03/2025 19:00

You honestly don’t believe Meghan is a bully ? Despite the evidence from several sources ? Despite the fact that this highly litigious couple have never sued ?
Harry himself said that people were crying at their desks ! Of course he blamed William .

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 19:01

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 18:51

For someone who swanned onto this thread demanding answers to completely off topic 'questions', you don't seem keen to answer questions related to your own posts.

What is the market for Meghan's 'products'? What is their USP? What makes you so confident she has the makings of a successful brand?

It is very difficult to able to provide a comprehensive explanation within a post, but I will try.I would also encourage you to engage with positive content related to MM so that you can read the comments these type of potential consumers by yourself.

  • People who see MM as aspirational( many more people that you would think)
-MM fans who would support her whatever she does
  • People that would be interested in purchasing these kind of products anyway, but would choose to go with As ever because again this brand is being discussed everywhere.
And so forth
LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 19:07

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 19:01

It is very difficult to able to provide a comprehensive explanation within a post, but I will try.I would also encourage you to engage with positive content related to MM so that you can read the comments these type of potential consumers by yourself.

  • People who see MM as aspirational( many more people that you would think)
-MM fans who would support her whatever she does
  • People that would be interested in purchasing these kind of products anyway, but would choose to go with As ever because again this brand is being discussed everywhere.
And so forth

The success of a brand is directly linked to both the product in itself, but also to who you are as a brand. The whole mix of her quiet luxury style, her recent lifestyle content is aspirational to many despite the efforts of both the legacy media and the online Meghan bashers.

IcedPurple · 14/03/2025 19:08

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 19:01

It is very difficult to able to provide a comprehensive explanation within a post, but I will try.I would also encourage you to engage with positive content related to MM so that you can read the comments these type of potential consumers by yourself.

  • People who see MM as aspirational( many more people that you would think)
-MM fans who would support her whatever she does
  • People that would be interested in purchasing these kind of products anyway, but would choose to go with As ever because again this brand is being discussed everywhere.
And so forth

But you're still not answering my question. Who are all these 'people'?

People who see MM as aspirational( many more people that you would think)

It's not about what I 'would think', not that you know me or anything.

Where is the evidence of all these 'people'? She only got 2.5 million followers on Instagram. That's a piddling number for someone hoping to build a major brand.

MM fans who would support her whatever she does

Probably, but they're a tiny number and nowhere near enough to support a high volume of sales.

People that would be interested in purchasing these kind of products anyway, but would choose to go with As ever because again this brand is being discussed everywhere.

What 'kind of products'? Most of them could be bought at the local supermarket for a fraction of the price, not that we know the price yet. If you've got a hankering for 'raspberry spread' why pay a premium and wait several days for it to arrive?

And the brand isn't being 'discussed everywhere' because the brand does not as yet exist. And even if it was, people aren't stupid and aren't going to pay through the nose for everyday products just because it's being 'discussed'.

You must surely agree that the marketing 'strategy' behind this brand has been dire? Or will you avoid answering that too?

BelfastBug · 14/03/2025 19:39

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 18:46

Even if these allegations are coming from American media outlets, many people are still not buying it.

There is increasing distrust in legacy media( which presents advantages and very dangerous downsides).

I also believe that the fact that so many articles and think pieces around a cooking show were pushed out and the intensity with which the media covers her in general, is really putting some people off. They feel that something is not adding up. It all feels forced and disproportionate after a while.

All of this to say, there is a very lucrative and noisy MM hate train. However, there is an entire world of people outside this bubble who simply won't buy into it. Don't let the algorithm and legacy media deceive you into thinking otherwise.

Edited

Did you also dismiss the multiple victims of 'Me Too' - that where uncovered, supported and advocated by the legacy media?

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 20:05

Mm fans that support her whatever she does.

damned by your own words!!! 😂

yes we’ve all seen evidence of this from her legion of supporters! , who like to bully and send death threats to anyone who does not believe Meghan is a saint!

every thing I judge Meghan and Harry for comes straight from their over zealous gobs, I don’t need brainwashing at the alter of Meghan and Harry, they are both lying, hypocritical, bullying , awful people.
you need to step out of your bubble and educate yourself!
you fans have locked yourselves into an echo chamber that the vast majority of people do not share and do not wish to .

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 20:13

We will see....😄

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 20:15

Only in your head .

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 20:24

jeffgoldblum · 14/03/2025 20:05

Mm fans that support her whatever she does.

damned by your own words!!! 😂

yes we’ve all seen evidence of this from her legion of supporters! , who like to bully and send death threats to anyone who does not believe Meghan is a saint!

every thing I judge Meghan and Harry for comes straight from their over zealous gobs, I don’t need brainwashing at the alter of Meghan and Harry, they are both lying, hypocritical, bullying , awful people.
you need to step out of your bubble and educate yourself!
you fans have locked yourselves into an echo chamber that the vast majority of people do not share and do not wish to .

There is no need to brainwash anybody into anything. You can choose to keep your opinions. That won't impact Meghan's marketability.

The fact that you have strong, negative opinions on someone does not mean that these same opinions are shared unanimously. It is just a matter of fact.

I was asked who is MM marketing her products to and I just provided an answer.

I have not had an answer to my original query - why being so invested in a public figure that you deem awful when you could just "cancel" them by ignoring them.

Calling me a rabid fan won't change the fact the MM's image has not been poisoned ,despite trying so desperately, to a section of society. Hence why, she is still a marketable figure.

These are not things that I am making up, you can see it with your eyes by choosing to also engage with positive MM content.

Mylovelygreendress · 14/03/2025 20:42

@LipglossAlly

“I have not had an answer to my original query - why being so invested in a public figure that you deem awful when you could just "cancel" them by ignoring them.”

I did answer - I find the H and M fiasco very entertaining. The couple who had a worldwide platform and who were going to be philanthropists etc etc are reduced to buying awards and selling cake mix ( if it ever appears).