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NotaRealHousewife · 05/03/2025 11:57

@MaggieMistletoe oh ffs there's more ??

GailPlattsDeadHusband · 05/03/2025 11:57

I switched off half way through episode two. I keep thinking that the version of Meghan she is pretending to be in this would really love to attend a state banquet. The epitome of luxuary food and hosting. If she hadn't of farted it all away she could have gone to one ... and even worn a tiara.

Uricon2 · 05/03/2025 11:57

Agree with the provenance points made by @Atlusvue. Enough people swamped the somewhat chaotic Diddly Squat farm shop to prove that the secret seems to be a perceived genuine connection with the place/goods/proprietor will pay off (and it isn't like Clarkson is held in universal esteem, at all)

Duchy Originals are good quality and have a charity tie in. Highgrove partners with genuine heritage brands like Penhaligons for some of their items and although noone is going to describe them as cheap, there are lots of things at more accessible prices, eg tins of tea.

Overpriced, bland generic goods won't do it for anyone in this climate.

NotaRealHousewife · 05/03/2025 11:59

@GailPlattsDeadHusband it would have to have been HER state banquet ... with all the foreign dignitaries receiving bath tea bags, home made bath salts and cutted up fruit

MummyJ12 · 05/03/2025 11:59

Prince Harry, In Love with Meghan. A man trapped in a fantasy.
A brilliant and insightful article from The Standard.

“We’ve all been there, haven’t we? No matter what gender or background or sexuality, we’ve all ended up in relationships with people who present nice and grounded, and then turn out to be completely deranged.

This can be extreme and frightening, but commonly the derangement is simply that this person has a fantasy version of themselves and a way they think about the world - or rather an idea about how the world should think about them - and as this person’s partner, it is your job to slot into this fantasy world as the missing piece.”

www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/prince-harry-in-with-love-meghan-a-man-trapped-in-a-fantasy-b1214675.html

glitterturd · 05/03/2025 12:03

Stickystickysticky · 05/03/2025 11:04

It just jarred with me how she gushed about having the same name as her children, it's hardly unusual!

To me it also casts shade on her family name of Markle. Were they not a family back then? She was happy to be privately educated by her father, have him pay for her first wedding but she didn't have a family name ?

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 12:05

glitterturd · 05/03/2025 12:03

To me it also casts shade on her family name of Markle. Were they not a family back then? She was happy to be privately educated by her father, have him pay for her first wedding but she didn't have a family name ?

I don't think Doria was ever known as Markle either. So it is kind of a criticism of her too.

NotaRealHousewife · 05/03/2025 12:05

I have no domestic skills whatsoever, hated blue Peter as a child, but Jesus Christ even I can dollop yoghurt into a bowl and call it a cloud and attach a ballon to a pre prepared bit of wire

glitterturd · 05/03/2025 12:08

MummyJ12 · 05/03/2025 11:59

Prince Harry, In Love with Meghan. A man trapped in a fantasy.
A brilliant and insightful article from The Standard.

“We’ve all been there, haven’t we? No matter what gender or background or sexuality, we’ve all ended up in relationships with people who present nice and grounded, and then turn out to be completely deranged.

This can be extreme and frightening, but commonly the derangement is simply that this person has a fantasy version of themselves and a way they think about the world - or rather an idea about how the world should think about them - and as this person’s partner, it is your job to slot into this fantasy world as the missing piece.”

www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/prince-harry-in-with-love-meghan-a-man-trapped-in-a-fantasy-b1214675.html

That is exactly the crazy girlfriend as described by Micky Flanagan in his comedy show. The one that shags like a rabbit but ends up stalking you 😂 and as he says the one you don't marry 😂

www.facebook.com/share/v/18nnvXhYD3/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Lifestooshort71 · 05/03/2025 12:13

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 09:24

Sorry, but why do they "need to earn shit-loads of money"?

They have more than enough money from Harry's despised family for them and their children to live in comfort, if not A list luxury, for the rest of their lives. Not saying they can't seek to earn more money if they want, but nobody has the right to a Montecito lifestyle.

And she put the show out there, so if it's crap people are allowed to say so. Should all the 'respectable' publications which have panned the show also have to tone down their comments because Meghan wants to live like the A lister she has never been?

I didn't say they weren't allowed to say it's crap but I'm allowed my opinion that some of the posts on here are a bit mean.

MissRoseDurward · 05/03/2025 12:16

I don't see how the NF show is supposed to work as a marketing/promotional tool for As Ever. Suppose the casual viewer is inspired to try some of the ideas, how are they supposed to know that products are available and where to look for them?

She really should have been out there promoting it, maybe bringing out a book.

(When I saw a pic of that fruit platter, all I could think was 'what a waste'.)

Vespanest · 05/03/2025 12:17

I've said this in another thread I really do not like the Harry is the victim narrative. It was Harry stories in spare and it was Harry who told of the suggested conversation of the colour of Archie skin. It was Harry smugly slagging William to any one who wouldn't ask him any questions back unless agreed.

CatsWhiskerz · 05/03/2025 12:19

LaMarschallin · 05/03/2025 08:59

I wonder if there's going to be some As Ever "dish soap".
That would teach naughty Procter and Gamble.
Btw, have you ever heard about the time when she was 11 and...

Come back! I haven't finished!

She'll have Harry dressed in a French maid outfit advertising it for men to use 😉

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 12:25

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/03/2025 11:11

‘Meghan, Duchess of Sussex’ I think. HRH has been withdrawn as they are not ‘working ‘ members of the Royal Family. (? Your Grace? Probably just ‘ma’am’.

Odd how obsessive Meghan is about tiltes. There was already a perfectly viable alternative for their children, demonstrated by The Princess Royal and her children: no titles, father’s surname, Zara took her husband’s name on marriage, her children called Tindall. That would have been a respectable ‘progressive’ route if she had fancied it. Meghan could keep her surname as many of us have done in a professional capacity after marriage.

‘Meghan, Duchess of Sussex’ I think. HRH has been withdrawn as they are not ‘working ‘ members of the Royal Family. (? Your Grace? Probably just ‘ma’am’.

"Meghan, Duchess of Sussex' is actually the styling for the divorced wife of a peer, like 'Sarah, Duchess of York'. Meghan is currently HRH The Duchess of Sussex, although they 'agreed' not to use the HRH. However, for some reason she insists on referring to herself as 'Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex' which is not a correct styling in any context.

Meghan could keep her surname as many of us have done in a professional capacity after marriage.

Many women keep their surnames in all capacities, not just 'professional'. Feminist Meghan could have done the same. Did she take Trevor's surname during their marriage?

User14March · 05/03/2025 12:27

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/03/2025 11:21

The Joy of Sussex?

Brilliant, with a Bognor base?

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 12:27

Lifestooshort71 · 05/03/2025 12:13

I didn't say they weren't allowed to say it's crap but I'm allowed my opinion that some of the posts on here are a bit mean.

Of course you're 'allowed' your opinion!

What I was challenging is your claim that they 'need' to earn vast amounts of cash, and the implication that 'mean' comments should be toned down because of that. I don't see that they really 'need' to earn big money, unless of course they feel themselves entitled to an A list lifestyle. If so, they have to get out there and earn it, and put up with public opinion both positive and negative.

PullTheBricksDown · 05/03/2025 12:32

EsmaCannonball · 05/03/2025 09:05

This conversation with Mindy Kaling was clearly scripted reality. Kaling was told to say 'Meghan Markle' so Meghan could introduce the rebrand as Meghan Sussex, because when you are about to flog regally-packaged hibiscus tea and flower sprinkles at $25 a pop then you don't want to be associated with anyone as downmarket as Thomas and Samantha.

I guess if you are as invested enough to get an As Ever tattoo, like the mean girl Squaddies we finally got to see the other day, you will buy the products, and maybe the likes of Serena and Oprah will do some bulk-buying as part of some 'you scratch my back' trade-off with Meghan, but who else will want these products? The brand doesn't have the cachet for the truly rich and the pricing is ridiculous for everyone else.

Ah hadn't thought of that. So Mindy' s expression is irritation at being cast at Dim but Adoring Friend who can ask the question for the Columbo-like Meghan to point out what's really going on. Fair enough.

Frauhubert · 05/03/2025 12:33

It’s very patronising to have a person without talent, skill or knowledge trying to teach us how to cook and host.
Just reached the episode with her Argentinian friend. Meghan does the typical Meghan thing- ‘i speak Argentinian Spanish!! I used to live in Argentina!’… so she did some admin temp work in an American embassy in Argentina for a few months 20 years ago. And she is now an expert at Argentinian Spanish too…

MaturingCheeseball · 05/03/2025 12:35

Sorry, late to the he party, just watched episode 1. My verdict is BORING. It wasn’t even funny. It went on and on in a humourless way.

The make-up guy… did he stay the night? They could have shown him swooning over his guest basket. Do they know each other that well? Clearly he didn’t get a jar of jam.

Also the guest basket with labels looks like the sort of thing you find in a boutique hotel and then spot a small card concealed behind the coffee maker detailing the eye-watering prices for each item.

AtIusvue · 05/03/2025 12:38

Allison Pearson, Telegraph:

With a sprinkle of candied petals and other darling little touches, With Love, Meghan landed like a pristine White Company counterpane of complacency on Netflix. Some may wince at the cutesy title, but I guess you can see why they rejected the more obvious alternatives: Rich Woman With Too Much Time on Her Hands or Marie Antoinette 2.0.
There is a definite “last queen of France” vibe about this series in which the Duchess of Sussex floats about in miles of designer white linen, affecting a longing for the simple, homespun life (plus peasants to launder the white linen, clearly). No flock of perfumed sheep with individual name tags in Meghan’s trademark calligraphy so far, but give her time.

Is it as bad as we feared? Oh, far worse than that, dear reader, but at least it has the makings of an accidental comedy classic. The first show opens with beekeeping. The world’s most successful Prince-bagger wears Oscars-night make-up in the great outdoors and protective anti-sting garb which has never before been teamed with exquisite diamond earrings. A fake to her fingertips, this is Meghan faking “natural”. “What’s the lifespan of a bee?” she asked the beekeeper, who seemed more wary of this particular queen bee than his drones. To be fair, both bees and actresses do rather well out of royal jelly.
Did Meghan perhaps betray an anxiety about the longevity of her own career? The Sussexes’ five-year, $100-million deal with Netflix expires before too long, with insiders saying it won’t be renewed. Their $20 million agreement with Spotify fell apart in 2023 after they had delivered just 12 episodes of Meghan’s ponderous Archetypes, interviews with women she finds inspirational, which involved a lot of talking about herself. Bill Simmons, the head of podcast innovation at Spotify, was incensed, saying a Meghan and Harry podcast should have been called “The F---ing Grifters”. Oh dear.

Meghan’s lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard, with a focus on jams, food, gardening, hosting and homeware, was stillborn after a trademark problem. Its successor, As Ever, may have run into similar difficulties and, disastrously, it seems there are no products with the new label ready to sell.
A savage Vanity Fair cover story in January with the sneery headline, American Hustle, marked a nadir for the once fairytale pair who were married in Windsor in 2018, and their bid to reinvent themselves as media moguls. To say a lot is riding on the success of With Love, Meghan is an understatement. It’s crunch time, and not just on the crudités platter which Meg has rustled up for her make-up artist and friend, Daniel Martin.
“Wow, why doesn’t anyone ever present peas like this?” marvels Daniel, helpfully delivering one of the obsequious lines in which the cynical viewer may detect the hand of his hostess. I mean, when was the last time you had someone over for lunch and they said, “You’re always showing your love through food”? Me neither.
Such is the slender premise of this eight-part series. Meghan is the Hostess with the Mostest, having a friend to stay, “elevating” their visit with thoughtful, artistic gestures while involving them in crafts and cooking at which they express totally spontaneous surprise and delight. The late, great Shirley “Superwoman” Conran famously said, “Life is too short to stuff a mushroom.” Not in Montecito, honey. You just know Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, as the executive producer is grandly billed, would grow the mushroom herself (ie get a snaggle-toothed Mexican gardener to do it), then fill it with sauteed pumpkin and beets from her vast, paradisial veggie patch before strewing the fabulous fungus with arugula and the ubiquitous flower petals. “Love is in the detail,” she coos. All of this while allowing her puffy white blouse sleeve to droop over the bubbling Le Creuset pan. Put a pinny on, for God’s sake, woman!
Nigella Lawson’s How To Be a Domestic Goddess was written with tongue firmly in cheek and became a huge and deserved hit among women who felt under pressure to be perfect. Meghan is incapable of laughing at herself so this outlandish fantasy, in which a mother of two small children has time to make her own bath salts, candles and “beautiful on the inside” cake, is presented with a deadly Californian earnestness.
“Fun” is permissible in Meghan World so long as it’s organised. Upbeat music on the soundtrack just about drowns out the high-pitched hum emitted by this most controlled and controlling of women. Assembling a giant rainbow made of about £100 of fruit, Meghan tells her second guest, actress and comedian Mindy Kaling, “I take a lot of pride in making breakfast for my family.”
“You should try it with kids around sometime,” Kaling could have shot back, but sadly didn’t. (She did jokingly call Meghan “Tinkerbell” for scattering yet more petals on a frittata and the Duchess turned rather frosty, asking why Kaling called her “Meghan Markle” instead of “Meghan Sussex”, the royal “family name” which “means so much” to her. And don’t you dare try to take it off me, was the implied threat. No wonder King Charles gives the pair a wide berth.)
Without any apparent irony, the two women were assembling all the ingredients for a perfect kids’ tea party in a calm, spotless and, yes, entirely child-free kitchen! The funniest scene came when Meghan prepared the world’s most disappointing party bags. Into them she put mini gardening tools, a pack of seeds and, astoundingly, no cake, sweets or chocolate until, suddenly, she seemed to remember: “Oh, something sweet – manuka honey stick”. I’d love to have seen her give those bleakly wholesome, additive-neutral party bags to some actual children. They’d tell her where to shove her manuka stick.
But Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, American youngsters who are absurdly – and you may, like me, feel quite wrongly – blessed with titles courtesy of the Royal family they have nothing to do with, were nowhere to be seen. Prince Harry makes blink-and-you-miss-it appearances and gets a name check as “my husband” who always puts salt on his food before eating it. At the very least, you thought, we will get a peek inside the Sussexes’ home, the legendary Montecito Mansion of the Thirteen Fireplaces. No such luck. Meghan felt that would be too disruptive and intrusive so filming took place in another bijou residence.
She doesn’t get it, does she? The one and only reason she has her own TV show and millions in the bank is not because she is inherently fascinating or talented – in fact, the former Suits actress is entirely lacking in the warmth, genuine friendliness and relaxed, relatable qualities essential for a good presenter – but because she sat on a cash register when she married the fifth in line to the throne. As Meghan Markle, she created a successful lifestyle blog, The Tig, which made good use of her undeniable gift for styling, fashion and wine, but that formula feels stilted on the screen.* *
The sole Sussex project to deliver at the box office was Harry & Meghan, a no-holds-barred documentary series in which the gruesome twosome sold the family secrets and whined at inordinate length about Harry’s brother, royal protocol and the racist British Empire. All the Windsors gave them was a £32 million wedding, glittering titles, the affection of the British people and access to unimaginable privilege. Poor mites.
On the evidence of the new show so far (I’ve watched two episodes), the hypocritical Duchess is happy to invade everyone else’s privacy but her own. A manicured, super-choreographed performance, not even set in her own home, does not make the compelling, reality-TV series Netflix surely wants.
Could it be a success? Attempts to pretend Meghan’s World, a frictionless fantasy so lavish and heavenly it makes the set of Bridgerton look like the cobbled grime of Coronation Street, can be recreated on a budget are laughable. (“You can get wax from your local beekeeper,” the Duchess assures those champing to make their own candles. Thanks, hon, I’ll buy mine.) But there is definitely a market for lifestyle soft porn. Meghan is no Nigella and certainly no Martha Stewart. But for knackered mums – with real kids rather than invisible princes and princesses spirited away by nannies – slumping on the sofa with a glass of Savvy B and imagining whipping up a frittata in a white linen blouse that never gets stained could look very appealing.
Others will find it insufferably smug and repellent. I hate to think what our beloved late Queen, who specifically forbade the Sussexes to exploit their royal titles, would think. Meghan doesn’t care: narcissists don’t. If love is in the detail, then so is its opposite. There are some characters that all the flower petals in the world cannot sweeten.

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 12:39

Stickystickysticky · 05/03/2025 08:36

And if you signed up - gave your email - check your spam folder as an email has been sent out (according to Sneha Mistri on Tik Tok, she found an email from As Ever there)

I haven't had an email, I haven't received the letter, I emailed x3 and said I wanted to unsubscribe and have had no reply .

Ditto - no email, have asked to unsubscribe. Either it's an accident I have no email, one is on the way and they have ignored my request, or they have taken me off the list.

User14March · 05/03/2025 12:39

AtIusvue · 05/03/2025 11:31

These type of brands need to have a physical presence, a place where ‘As ever’ actually exists.

  • So Highgrove products come from Highgrove estate, which people visit.
  • Farm shops products are on the large estates or farms, lots of people visit their local farm shop and are prepared to pay a bit extra
  • Flamingo estate products has the Flamingo estate in California - the rich and famous can go visit

You have to see the home of the products to be willing to shell out for the big bucks for them.

The reason why this just feels destined for the TK Maxx bargain bin, is that ‘As ever’ isn’t a real place. Is just an interchangable name (ARO anyone?) with faux crest to slap on food products. The exact same type of stuff that you get in TK maxx. They have products from ‘House of Balfour’ …..so that’s an old Scottish surname, so it’s a name picked for heritage and prestige. But the House of Balfour doesn’t exist. It isn’t a real place. They do that with lots of their products.

When it comes to food, you have to know where it comes from. It’s clearly not from her home estate or any estate she owns that you can visit/purchase products. It’s just long life cupboard staples, made in some factory, in some country somewhere .

Edited

Good points. Could she buy a sort of ‘pick your own’ farmer’s field with an apiary, chick-inn and a petting zoo & work with a ‘farm manager’ to make profitable. Veggie garden, ‘back to land’ initiative? Spotlight on difficulties? ‘As Ever land’? A physical place people could visit as you say? An enduring ‘Gerald’ on the land?

Frauhubert · 05/03/2025 12:41

Her pasta cooking skills are appalling 🥲 i am convinced Netflix are absolutely taking the piss, they are zooming in on her awkwardly picking things off the cutting board and just tossing uncooked kale and tomatoes into stuck together bits od pasta which she then dresses… with reserved pasta water. 🫣 (this is her second pasta dish, not the first episode’s unseasoned pasta blobby one pot mess)

NotaRealHousewife · 05/03/2025 12:45

@AtIusvue that is scathing but entirely accurate

PullTheBricksDown · 05/03/2025 12:47

AtIusvue · 05/03/2025 10:53

A poster on the other thread made the excellent point in regard to this.

That Mindy who was on maternity leave and had just had her third child, is known to have an unusual family set up. She has never revealed who the father is and she isn’t in a relationship with him. I think it’s her friend who she worked with on the Office. Obviously it’s a loving family and they’ve had three kids, but it’s not the typical traditional set up. All 5 are not going to have the same surname.

So for Meghan to not only correct her- but make a big song and dance about them all having the same name and that being part of their love story was straight up Meg being a dick to Mindy

The fixation on names and titles is particularly shallow and, for me, contradictory. If royal protocol is stupid and what matters is love and genuine feeling and good intentions, then why on earth would things like last names and titles matter? It's like all the faux outrage over Zelensky not wearing a suit. Them all being called Sussex makes zero difference to their 'love story'. I don't have the same last name as my DC: who cares? As another poster said, Anne set the example here and Meghan and Harry would earn a lot more respect - especially in the USA I would think - if they dropped the Duchess, Prince and Princess malarkey and said their character and work were what mattered.

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