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Thedom · 07/03/2025 07:27

Stickystickysticky · 07/03/2025 06:59

It might be a bit of a reach but in the Oprah interview, Harry said the reason they made deals with Netflix was because Charles had cut him off financially and they needed to make money . Maybe Meghan is resentful that they were made 'destitute' (🙄) and was 'forced' to get a job to make ends meet.
A bit like some women have to get a second job because their hopeless husbands can't hold a job down.
Which is why there seems to be an undercurrent of tension in the programmes.

Edited

Cutting Harry off financially was proven to be another lie when Charles accounts were made public the following year.

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 07:32

GiveMeSpanakopita · 07/03/2025 06:42

The algorithms and data upon which NF bases its renewal decisions is famously opaque. They appear to focus on completion rate, ie the % of viewers who start a season and complete it. Anything over 60% completion has a decent chance of being renewed BUT they have chosen not to review shows with a 70% + completion rate so it's likely there's another metric they're not disclosing (or any other production decisions of course).

Something like WLM, I'd imagine a lot of people start it to see what the fuss is about/"hate watch" (to use the Gen Z phrase)/laugh at it. Such viewers tend not to watch all episodes so wouldn't count towards completion rate.

I'd not put too much store by WLM appearing in Top 10 Most Popular list. There have been multiple criticisms levelled at NF to the effect that this list is not a real indicator of genuine popularity but is manipulated to get FOMO eyeballs on something they want to promote.

In general NF's algorithmic decisions are highly opaque and I believe a number of their stated stats around popularity are manipulated. All streaming platforms do this. The only stats they don't manipulate are the numbers they report to their investors.

If you want to read more about NF algo manipulation as a way of manipulating public taste, these are some good starting points:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137270061_4

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/01/05/the-hidden-reason-netflix-keeps-cancelling-shows-like-1899/?sh=50fc9efd1a09

Thanks for this. It does seem as if they decide to renew in the same way as it was rumoured they graded degrees at Oxford, chuck everything down the stairs and if they land near the top, 1st, first landing 2:1 etc. So land near the top renewed, any further down cancelled.

smilesy · 07/03/2025 07:32

BemusedAmerican · 07/03/2025 01:23

One of my coworkers unplugs the microwave every night so that it won't suddenly cause an overnight fire.

That happens in the UK too. My FiL (who is admittedly from the era when house electrics were much less safe) unplugs everything to the point of unplugging the wifi when they went away for the weekend and then had to reboot everything and being unable to remember how / find passwords 😂. We have managed to talk him out of that one now. Obviously we have RCD’s now which cut power instantly if a fault occurs, and three pin plugs with an earth connection so he should be fine

Mightymoog · 07/03/2025 07:44

veganfortheanimals21 · 06/03/2025 22:50

The dynamics in the episode with Chef Roy Choi were very good. Obviously the fact they were cooking animals was terrible and the fact almost every episode included animal flesh or secretions was upsetting. Compared with other episodes the chef Choi was much more natural and comfortable a watch and as someone who has spent some time telling people about the racism behind the English reaction to MSG, I was glad to see him address this in the episode. I think they worked well together in this episode. The Mindy Kaling episode early on made me almost turn off because it was so odd but as the series went on, it was weirdly comforting. Just wish it was more vegan, and perhaps should have been speaking to camera rather than diluted via film crew. This was obviously intentional though but I do wonder why. I'm very team Meghan but can see why people found this a but odd - because it definitely was. Yet, I also enjoyed being allowed to not be cynical for a change and embrace absolute cheesy positivity.

Racism about MSG? The food flavouring?
What is this?
I've just bought some for the first time and it's fabulous stuff!

PointySnoot · 07/03/2025 08:13

smilesy · 07/03/2025 07:32

That happens in the UK too. My FiL (who is admittedly from the era when house electrics were much less safe) unplugs everything to the point of unplugging the wifi when they went away for the weekend and then had to reboot everything and being unable to remember how / find passwords 😂. We have managed to talk him out of that one now. Obviously we have RCD’s now which cut power instantly if a fault occurs, and three pin plugs with an earth connection so he should be fine

One of my uncles was a firefighter - my parents used to switch off and unplug everything before going to bed, as he'd advised them to do this.

FarmerDramaLlama · 07/03/2025 08:37

shes released a video (instagram?) showing the backs of the kids. Talking about them, sharing photos of their backs…she doesn’t need to do that except for attention on herself.
im guessing we’ll see more and more of them over the next few years.

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 08:39

Mightymoog · 07/03/2025 07:44

Racism about MSG? The food flavouring?
What is this?
I've just bought some for the first time and it's fabulous stuff!

I was wondering about that too. I do know someone who is allergic to MSG but never heard about racism. Can someone explain please?

RecollectionsMayRealiseMyJamIsNotActuallyJam · 07/03/2025 08:44

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 08:39

I was wondering about that too. I do know someone who is allergic to MSG but never heard about racism. Can someone explain please?

I would also like to know and ask @Mightymoog what they are using it for/why it's so good. I thought it was bad for health. (See still learning from this thread 😂)

GiveMeSpanakopita · 07/03/2025 08:44

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 07:32

Thanks for this. It does seem as if they decide to renew in the same way as it was rumoured they graded degrees at Oxford, chuck everything down the stairs and if they land near the top, 1st, first landing 2:1 etc. So land near the top renewed, any further down cancelled.

I was actually still quite proud of my First from the college on the Cherwell before I read this!

Mind you, that was nearly 40 years ago. Unlike Meghan with the spurious Unilever story, I think it's bad form to keep boasting of and relying on old achievements. We all change a great deal as life knocks off our arrogant corners and shiny sheen. So I can take the staircase analogy :-)

RecollectionsMayRealiseMyJamIsNotActuallyJam · 07/03/2025 08:45

Gone up one on the NF most watched- now at 5.

Interesting reading above about how NF manipulate the chart- why haven't they manipulated it so it's no 1?

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 08:53

GiveMeSpanakopita · 07/03/2025 08:44

I was actually still quite proud of my First from the college on the Cherwell before I read this!

Mind you, that was nearly 40 years ago. Unlike Meghan with the spurious Unilever story, I think it's bad form to keep boasting of and relying on old achievements. We all change a great deal as life knocks off our arrogant corners and shiny sheen. So I can take the staircase analogy :-)

😃

I'm sure it's a myth, your First is still valid, and admirable!!

LovelyJubly12 · 07/03/2025 09:16

OctopusFriend · 07/03/2025 07:25

You're probably right. She obviously thought her marriage was a ticket to limitless wealth. Hence why all the snark about where they lived, which was too modest, and being cut off by the Bank of Pa.

Well of course that's what she thought.

Mightymoog · 07/03/2025 09:24

RecollectionsMayRealiseMyJamIsNotActuallyJam · 07/03/2025 08:44

I would also like to know and ask @Mightymoog what they are using it for/why it's so good. I thought it was bad for health. (See still learning from this thread 😂)

I was always told that MSG was bad for you but apparently that's nonsense.
I've just started using it in the last week and I use it in place of salt so either cooked in or sprinkled on as you would salt
It's fabulous; basically gives a lot more depth and umani to a dish.
Looking it up, the racism seems to stem from the bad effects ( now disproved) being called "chinese restaurant syndrome" ( headaches) - so I'm not sure; does that mean if you still think it's bad for you that makes you a racist? I know, makes no sense!

Anyway, so far it has indeed made a big difference to taste imo.
Put some in a chinese dish and it did definitely make it more restaurant like.
Also spiced carrot and parsnip soup was much improved by it.
Bought a big bag from amazon for not very much if anyone else wants a try

GiveMeSpanakopita · 07/03/2025 09:28

RecollectionsMayRealiseMyJamIsNotActuallyJam · 07/03/2025 08:45

Gone up one on the NF most watched- now at 5.

Interesting reading above about how NF manipulate the chart- why haven't they manipulated it so it's no 1?

Well, it also has to be believable.

The entire world of online platforms is a story of false manipulation of engagement stats. Because every content producer, from the big corporations to the little individuals, need a viral moment, corporations have become highly skilled at manipulating algos to make content seem more popular/viral/engaged with than it actually is. This then excites the Streisand Effect and the thing in question should then, according to the plan, also go viral for real.

Most of social media and online streaming is created and manipulated to play on the very human phenomenon of FOMO. We're a herd species of course, and social media plays to this and thus manipulates our attention (and, for many, our behaviours too).

There's a whole world of academia about this, it's a scary rabbit hole but I believe important that we all educate ourselves at least a little bit, to protect our minds and our critical thinking faculties. And more importantly those of our children and grandchildren.

Of course legacy television could never do this because the ratings were compiled by third parties and there was a great deal more transparency over commercial channels' deals with advertisers. So if we read that, I dunno, 20 million people sat down on Christmas Day to watch the last ever episode of Only Fools and Horses, then we can actually be confident that 20 million people really did do that, and we enjoyed a shared cultural moment. These days? never happens. Bit sad really!

Treeleaf11 · 07/03/2025 09:32

Most new programmes go to the top of the NF chart. For something with a huge amount of publicity 5th seems very low.

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 09:41

Regarding the MSG thing. No one is allowed to say anything with MSG in it makes them feel unwell or in the case of myself - gives them a migraine. And from what I understand there was a study that claims to have found no evidence of ill health in anyone who took it and as such anyone saying that it made them unwell is a racist.

To date I’ve been banned from two food forums for stating a fact when discussing Chinese food - that it gives me a migraine. Forums are full of people just waiting to make a point and unfortunately as soon as the word racism is mentioned forum admins react automatically and ban people.

Not that I’ll ever be quiet about the migraines MSG has given me and if anyone wants to be ban me from a forum they are more than welcome to.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2025 09:49

She obviously thought her marriage was a ticket to limitless wealth

And she was right, @OctopusFriend, at least by most people's standards.
No matter what happens - and especially because she has the kids - she'll never be poor, but as so often with inadequate people it seems she always wants more

MargaretThursday · 07/03/2025 09:52

My brother gets asthma attacks from MSG.
He has since the early 80s, from before it was known to be a problem.
He's also allergic to many artificial colours. When DM told the doctor she'd found this, the doctor said "no one would be allergic to that". Two years later they apologised.

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 09:57

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 08:39

I was wondering about that too. I do know someone who is allergic to MSG but never heard about racism. Can someone explain please?

It was said by those who ran the study that as participants in the study didn’t know if they were getting msg or not, those who didn’t get the msg but who still reported adverse reactions to what they were eating must have been racists.

I first had Chinese food 60 years ago when it was made for my family in our local Chinese restaurant by the Chinese owner who was my dads closest friend, and who had also been my sisters sponsor when she was Confirmed in the RC church. That’s how close our families were. I got a migraine after eating it and it just goes to show what absolute and utter shite some of these studies are.

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/03/2025 10:10

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 09:57

It was said by those who ran the study that as participants in the study didn’t know if they were getting msg or not, those who didn’t get the msg but who still reported adverse reactions to what they were eating must have been racists.

I first had Chinese food 60 years ago when it was made for my family in our local Chinese restaurant by the Chinese owner who was my dads closest friend, and who had also been my sisters sponsor when she was Confirmed in the RC church. That’s how close our families were. I got a migraine after eating it and it just goes to show what absolute and utter shite some of these studies are.

Edited

Thank you for the explanation. As someone who does react adversely to various foods and additives, but not MSG, I'm inclined to believe that some will be affected, as with anything we put in our bodies.

Mightymoog · 07/03/2025 10:16

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 09:57

It was said by those who ran the study that as participants in the study didn’t know if they were getting msg or not, those who didn’t get the msg but who still reported adverse reactions to what they were eating must have been racists.

I first had Chinese food 60 years ago when it was made for my family in our local Chinese restaurant by the Chinese owner who was my dads closest friend, and who had also been my sisters sponsor when she was Confirmed in the RC church. That’s how close our families were. I got a migraine after eating it and it just goes to show what absolute and utter shite some of these studies are.

Edited

Wow, that's bonkers

Grrrpredictivetex · 07/03/2025 10:20

My friend (USA) got hives whenever she had MSG. Am I correct in thinking it's banned in the USA?

MummyJ12 · 07/03/2025 10:22

BasiliskStare · 07/03/2025 01:09

@MummyJ12 - I've had a quooker boiling water tap for about 15 years ( two houses so not exactly the same one.) I thought they were a gimmick initially - but I would not be without one now - I don't have a kettle - don't need one. Slight aside Also useful if you don't have a kitchen the size of a football pitch - less stuff to go on the counter top. ( My lifestyle tip for the day ) 😊

I love mine too! I don’t think we’ll ever buy a kettle again! 💗

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 10:23

No it’s not banned. It’s deemed safe but as per the FDA it must be listed as an ingredient on foodstuffs given that some may have an adverse reaction to it.

glitterturd · 07/03/2025 10:28

Weepixie · 07/03/2025 09:41

Regarding the MSG thing. No one is allowed to say anything with MSG in it makes them feel unwell or in the case of myself - gives them a migraine. And from what I understand there was a study that claims to have found no evidence of ill health in anyone who took it and as such anyone saying that it made them unwell is a racist.

To date I’ve been banned from two food forums for stating a fact when discussing Chinese food - that it gives me a migraine. Forums are full of people just waiting to make a point and unfortunately as soon as the word racism is mentioned forum admins react automatically and ban people.

Not that I’ll ever be quiet about the migraines MSG has given me and if anyone wants to be ban me from a forum they are more than welcome to.

It's on the NHS website.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/food-intolerance/

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