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IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 16:10

BunnyLake · 06/03/2025 11:19

He’s said he barely remembers her though.

As he was 12, he will be able to remember quite a lot, even if he prefers not to remember. Researching Diana: mother, philanthropist, celebrity would be a great way to build bridges with brother William but It's not going to happen.

BunnyLake · 06/03/2025 16:11

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 16:10

As he was 12, he will be able to remember quite a lot, even if he prefers not to remember. Researching Diana: mother, philanthropist, celebrity would be a great way to build bridges with brother William but It's not going to happen.

No it’s not going to happen.

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:11

JSMill · 06/03/2025 16:06

It's funny how many people are referencing Amanda! It just shows what a well written character she is. I have a soft spot for her though. I think Meghan would definitely gone off with Johannes and ditched everyone in SoHa!

Shows you what an amazing actress she is, that she makes Amanda likeable!

I can see an As ever X SEN5U0U5 collab coming in the near future 😂

Ohpleeeease · 06/03/2025 16:14

PointySnoot · 06/03/2025 15:52

Someone mentioned earlier about the two Duchies being examples of half-in and half-out. It's not a good example for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, because the Duchies were established by Royal charter hundreds of years ago, specifically for the purpose of providing income for the Royal family, mainly through property ownership.

E.g. when Charles was still the PoW, it was his income from the Duchy of Cornwall which was helping to fund himself and his family members including Harry & Meghan. William inherited DoC when Charles became King (and Charles took over the Duchy of Lancaster, as this is designed to provide income for the Monarch).

HMQ's point to Harry & Meghan when they wanted their 50/50 deal, was that they couldn't go and monetise their Royal titles on the open market to whomever they fancied. The RF would need to provide approval, to guard against the 'brand' being undermined and avoid any potential political issues as they are supposed to remain neutral. There are also legal considerations such as trademark and copyright laws on the use of Royal Arms etc.

Commercial activity isn't a complete no-no, but it needs to be in line with the RF's rules - Duchy Originals is probably the best known example of non-property activity. But this was relevant to RF activity as was produce from the Highgrove Estate as part of the Duchy of Cornwall, and was promoted as part of Charles' interest in supporting organic and sustainable farming in the UK. So not quite the same as merching pancake mix which is unlikely to have been produced from Meghan's garden in Montecito.

And this explains why Harry and MM whoring their royal credentials is in a different league.

JSMill · 06/03/2025 16:16

Lucy Punch is great. I actually think it's harder to do comedy than drama.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 06/03/2025 16:22

Abuse from the RF my arse. I've watched back that Colbert (who is a POS) interview.

In the Colbert interview he's moaning about the press leaks of his book and intimates the RF as being somehow complicit in this, although never elaborates. Press leaks? Um, no, that would be a Spanish bookshop putting them on the shelf early and journalists getting hold of it.

He says he was forced to flee in 2020. He doesn't say why. He says the press coverage of them after they left was relentless because they were no longer under institutional control. He says "they" (doesn't specify who "they" is) always knew his wife would leave because of the way that "they" (who ffs?) were abusing her, but he thinks the most embarrassing thing (for who? Who knows?) is that he decided to leave with her.

Colbert asks if the intent (whose? who knows) was to make her leave of to break her spirit so she'd be easier to control. Harry says both, he's never witnessed the level of abuse and harassment over his wife. Still not saying by whom. He says other members of the family have experienced it, but to see it happen the way it happened...."I was naive going into it, I didn't realise the British press would be so bigoted, and even if I had, I wouldn't have accepted or understood how they could get away with it."

He then claims "unnamed sources" were feeding stories about him and his wife to the press. Gives no specifics. Goes on to claim that the fracture between him and William has been pinned on Meghan, intimating but not stating that they were not close to begin with. Says there's no way the distance between him and William would be the same if Diana was alive. Invades his brother's privacy a bit. Talking about Diana.

Colbert suggests his family were not good at giving hugs. Harry says he's good at them now. He also says he'd always tell people when he was young he was fine because it meant there would be no follow up questions about how he was feeling. Says no therapy culture in the UK in 1997.

Discussion about his childhood belief Diana was alive and hiding. More therapy discussion. Says writing the book has made him vulnerable and stronger. Talking about his want of community. Says that as soon as he started doing therapy, he and his family couldn't understand each other. Says his family's mindset is dangerous because of the toxic relationship between the family and the press. More accusations that the palace were leaking to the press. No specifics.

Frostbitten todger discussion. A whole 5 1/2 minutes on this.

Talking about QEII and her wit. Talking about the ginger gene in his children standing up to his wife's genes (not racist at all).

Talking about what he and MM do at home. Watching The Crown.

End of interview.

Not seeing the abuse meted out to him by his family. Just the usual vague and wholly unsubstantiated accusations about press leaks.

Baital · 06/03/2025 16:27

That's their MO. Victimhood by insinuation, no specifics. Because otherwise they would have to consider whether their own behaviour was a large part of the problem. Easier to believe in malice by others.

As opposed to 'we were a nightmare and then had a strop'.

JSMill · 06/03/2025 16:37

We were a nightmare and then had a strop.
This sums it up perfectly.

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:37

Colbert identifies as Irish. Not really Irish obviously, but in that he’s an American who thinks he’s Irish because distant relatives came from Ireland 100 years ago. So obviously as an American he thinks he’s knows everything about the British and hates the RF. He’s awful.

I did read once though that his whole family died a plane crash as a kid, and respected that he’s got on with his life. Doesn’t seem to have held him back. But he hates Brits.

JSMill · 06/03/2025 16:39

My aunt was married to an Irish American. He was very good to me but he was very anti British.

Onlyonekenobe · 06/03/2025 16:41

Where to from here, I wonder.

I think both Harry and Meghan are convinced, possibly with some elements of truth, that people are out to get them. They are willing to deny the merits of any criticism and advice because they so strongly believe the world is against them and that's the only reason for their failures. That can only mean more victimhood, more paranoia, more wanting to explain themselves, more bitterness, more seeking sympathy, more going on the attack.

They also have an image and a standing to maintain, for themselves and for their children's future.

It really can't be easy reading/seeing/hearing all the criticism, from everywhere, of WLM/As Ever. That stuff is going to be there forever, for their children to see.

I just can't think where they might go from here. What would any PR person advise them to do, other than lay low for a while, find something solid and decent to do, and maybe re-emerge in a decade or so?

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:41

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:37

Colbert identifies as Irish. Not really Irish obviously, but in that he’s an American who thinks he’s Irish because distant relatives came from Ireland 100 years ago. So obviously as an American he thinks he’s knows everything about the British and hates the RF. He’s awful.

I did read once though that his whole family died a plane crash as a kid, and respected that he’s got on with his life. Doesn’t seem to have held him back. But he hates Brits.

Well, that's fortunate, because if he identified as American, he'd have to accept their colonialism, slavery and genocide against the Native American people.

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:42

Baital · 06/03/2025 16:27

That's their MO. Victimhood by insinuation, no specifics. Because otherwise they would have to consider whether their own behaviour was a large part of the problem. Easier to believe in malice by others.

As opposed to 'we were a nightmare and then had a strop'.

Absolutely! 💯

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 06/03/2025 16:44

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:37

Colbert identifies as Irish. Not really Irish obviously, but in that he’s an American who thinks he’s Irish because distant relatives came from Ireland 100 years ago. So obviously as an American he thinks he’s knows everything about the British and hates the RF. He’s awful.

I did read once though that his whole family died a plane crash as a kid, and respected that he’s got on with his life. Doesn’t seem to have held him back. But he hates Brits.

He lost his dad and two siblings in the plane crash. I have seen an interview where he speaks very movingly about this experience. He also clearly adores his wife. He's still a piece of crap though. His nasty involvement in the "Where's Kate" stuff and dragging Rose and her kid and the affair rumour into it, followed by his mealy mouthed non-apology was the final nail for me.

stillclueless · 06/03/2025 16:44

FarmerDramaLlama · 06/03/2025 15:49

I think William is much more aware of what his mother was like. It’s a failing of all Harry’s therapy that he isn’t.
I view W&C decision to spend a lot of time with their children is to not to repeat the mistakes of W&H’s upbringing. I’m suspect the younger children will be brought up with more purpose and with the plan to have a life outside of the RF.

I think the younger children will be brought up to live off the monarchy like the rest of the hangers on. Nothing is going to change with Wills being King they all look after their own. That goes the same for Harry he will be looked after by the RF whatever you H & M haters seem to think. Blood is thicker than water and whatever Harry has done that won't change.

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:44

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:41

Well, that's fortunate, because if he identified as American, he'd have to accept their colonialism, slavery and genocide against the Native American people.

And the neo colonialism that’s about to unfold by the predatory state under Trump….Greenland, Canada, Panama canal, Gaza……

His hands are clean

Onlyonekenobe · 06/03/2025 16:46

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 16:37

Colbert identifies as Irish. Not really Irish obviously, but in that he’s an American who thinks he’s Irish because distant relatives came from Ireland 100 years ago. So obviously as an American he thinks he’s knows everything about the British and hates the RF. He’s awful.

I did read once though that his whole family died a plane crash as a kid, and respected that he’s got on with his life. Doesn’t seem to have held him back. But he hates Brits.

TBH many Irish hate the British for all they've done to their country. And like many emigrants, the "home" mindset stays fixed as if in aspic when they leave.

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:49

Onlyonekenobe · 06/03/2025 16:46

TBH many Irish hate the British for all they've done to their country. And like many emigrants, the "home" mindset stays fixed as if in aspic when they leave.

True.

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:50

Well, Meghan has gained her wealth by marrying into the British Monarchy. Surely someone anti British would despise them for such craven greed and elitism?

Onlyonekenobe · 06/03/2025 16:52

OctopusFriend · 06/03/2025 16:50

Well, Meghan has gained her wealth by marrying into the British Monarchy. Surely someone anti British would despise them for such craven greed and elitism?

Example #4,971 why nothing Meghan Markle does makes any sense.

EsmaCannonball · 06/03/2025 16:56

Raspberry Spread sounds like some cheap knock-off product sold in B&M that can't be called jam because it is so full of additives. Bet she went mental when she was told it couldn't legally be called jam. Why 'spread' and not 'preserve,' though? It's the wrong branding. It reminds me of Leslie Crowther Stork Margarine adverts. Is Instagram about to be inundated by obscure American influencers thanking Meghan for her spread?

Ohpleeeease · 06/03/2025 16:57

stillclueless · 06/03/2025 16:44

I think the younger children will be brought up to live off the monarchy like the rest of the hangers on. Nothing is going to change with Wills being King they all look after their own. That goes the same for Harry he will be looked after by the RF whatever you H & M haters seem to think. Blood is thicker than water and whatever Harry has done that won't change.

We all look after our own. Nothing unusual about that.

W and C seem to have exercised good judgement so far in how their children are brought up. They’re also close to the Edinburghs who didn’t exercise their children’s right to be styled Prince and Princess, and who are encouraging their children to think in terms of having a career outside the royal family.

Harry doesn’t need looking after financially, he has many millions including Diana’s bequest. Charles has already refused to take Harry’s calls because every time they spoke Harry demanded money. I can’t see that changing.

Blood may be thicker than water but it’s nothing like as thick as a grey rock.

Stickystickysticky · 06/03/2025 17:00

EsmaCannonball · 06/03/2025 16:56

Raspberry Spread sounds like some cheap knock-off product sold in B&M that can't be called jam because it is so full of additives. Bet she went mental when she was told it couldn't legally be called jam. Why 'spread' and not 'preserve,' though? It's the wrong branding. It reminds me of Leslie Crowther Stork Margarine adverts. Is Instagram about to be inundated by obscure American influencers thanking Meghan for her spread?

I'd love to know who her suppliers are and what ingredients have been used.

TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 06/03/2025 17:02

I was just thinking about the whole "my surname is Sussex now" comment (I was chopping chilli and garlic, it was dull, in my defence!) and wondering how Megs hasn't grasped the intricacies of royal titles and surnames etc.

She must KNOW that her children's surnames are Mountbatten-Windsor, surely? And they (the kids) aren't the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Harry and Megs are. So her surname simply isn't "Sussex" - it just isn't is it? Is she really that stupid that she thinks it is? Or is it?! My mind is boggling.

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