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IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 14:59

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 14:53

I think Kate is really underestimated, even though, superficially, she is less accomplished than Meghan. She signed up for a life under constant scrutiny and manages to be both relatable and inscrutable. I'm pleased for Catherine that she doesn't have to contend with exercising self control in the presence of someone who doesn't like her. William picked well - but I think the two of them need to work harder.

I don't even think she's 'less accomplished' than Meghan, but I'm sure Meghan does!

I agree with both of your other points. William should be grateful every day of his life that he married Catherine. But yes, they do need to work more. I'm familiar with all the excuses but am not really convinced by them. But I guess that's for another thread!

Mylovelygreendress · 05/03/2025 14:59

Is this the final Netflix programme or is there something else in the pipeline ?
I seem to recall they were to make a film ?

NotaRealHousewife · 05/03/2025 15:00

Mylovelygreendress · 05/03/2025 14:59

Is this the final Netflix programme or is there something else in the pipeline ?
I seem to recall they were to make a film ?

Oh dear god no

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:03

Frootnvej · 05/03/2025 14:43

Ha, Julie's bang on the money as usual referencing The Benny Hill theme! Did anyone else notice how much the background music sounds like the Benny Hill theme in Episode 1 "Hello, Honey!" around 16m20s when she and Daniel are making candles? What was that all about? I couldn't stop laughing. Is no-one on her team British? Definitely a wind-up by NF and her team, surely?

Edited

that spaghetti looks awful
Wouldn't be horribly watery cooking the "sauce" in the boiling pasta water?

Strudie · 05/03/2025 15:03

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 14:59

I don't even think she's 'less accomplished' than Meghan, but I'm sure Meghan does!

I agree with both of your other points. William should be grateful every day of his life that he married Catherine. But yes, they do need to work more. I'm familiar with all the excuses but am not really convinced by them. But I guess that's for another thread!

I think I agree they could work more than they do (at least visibly, I’ve no idea what responsibilities, if any, William has behind the scenes with the duchy). I feel like maybe they’ve decided to prioritise their children and family life for now - which is very privileged, for sure - but because they’ll likely be working into their old age past when most people have retired, it feels like a fair trade off?

Back on topic, like a PP said - I’m curious why Meghan claimed she hadn’t been able to use her creativity for the past few years. They left the royals more than 5 years ago didn’t they? It’s not clear what would be stopping her?

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ByGraceAlone · 05/03/2025 15:06

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 14:59

I don't even think she's 'less accomplished' than Meghan, but I'm sure Meghan does!

I agree with both of your other points. William should be grateful every day of his life that he married Catherine. But yes, they do need to work more. I'm familiar with all the excuses but am not really convinced by them. But I guess that's for another thread!

Catherine is less accomplished professionally. She hasn't any professional achievements. Because she met W so young and then it seems was preparing for the life as a future queen. She could be criticised for this but it seems to have worked out well for her, William , the RF and the country.

As an individual she is as accomplished as M. Same level of education. And many skills music/sport, socially skilled, and values such as duty, restraint and dignity M sorely lacks.

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 15:10

Strudie · 05/03/2025 15:03

I think I agree they could work more than they do (at least visibly, I’ve no idea what responsibilities, if any, William has behind the scenes with the duchy). I feel like maybe they’ve decided to prioritise their children and family life for now - which is very privileged, for sure - but because they’ll likely be working into their old age past when most people have retired, it feels like a fair trade off?

Back on topic, like a PP said - I’m curious why Meghan claimed she hadn’t been able to use her creativity for the past few years. They left the royals more than 5 years ago didn’t they? It’s not clear what would be stopping her?

All the Wales children are at school and even if they worked a bit more, it would still amount to a normal person's idea of a part time job at most. They could definitely do more while still spending loads of time with the kids, but that's the last I'll say as I don't want to derail the thread.

As for your other point, I think Meghan just loves the idea that 'they' were holding back her true greatness. But as you say, that point expired at least 4 years ago. She could and should have started on this lifestyle thing as soon as she left the royals, if that was what she wanted to do. Far from being an impediment, Covid might have helped her as nobody had anything better to do than faff about the house.

I think the problem is that it isn't what she wanted to do. She had visions of herself as a globe trotting philanthropist, taking private jets to gala dinners where she'd give well received speeches while wearing custom couture and rubbing shoulders with world leaders. That didn't quite work out, however, so now here she is sprinkling edible flowers on elevated sandwiches. The claim that she was somehow 'stopped' from doing so is just a way of pretending that this is what she wanted all along, when it clearly isn't.

Stickystickysticky · 05/03/2025 15:15

Meghan absolutely could have used her creativity while being a working royal, I'm sure there's lots of charities where being creative would help. Eg a family member worked in a prison using art to help the inmates with addiction and mental illness.
Im not suggesting Meghan went to work in a prison but you get my drift.

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 15:17

Stickystickysticky · 05/03/2025 15:15

Meghan absolutely could have used her creativity while being a working royal, I'm sure there's lots of charities where being creative would help. Eg a family member worked in a prison using art to help the inmates with addiction and mental illness.
Im not suggesting Meghan went to work in a prison but you get my drift.

Didn't Kate visit a women's prison a few weeks ago?

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 15:19

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 14:59

I don't even think she's 'less accomplished' than Meghan, but I'm sure Meghan does!

I agree with both of your other points. William should be grateful every day of his life that he married Catherine. But yes, they do need to work more. I'm familiar with all the excuses but am not really convinced by them. But I guess that's for another thread!

@icedpurple I have heard your very tactful reminder that I mustn't derail the thread 😊

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:21

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 15:17

Didn't Kate visit a women's prison a few weeks ago?

It was a visit to a mother and baby unit within a prison, and the work done to prepare those women for life as new mums outside prison. The visit was connected to Catherine's ongoing early years project.

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:22

ByGraceAlone · 05/03/2025 15:06

Catherine is less accomplished professionally. She hasn't any professional achievements. Because she met W so young and then it seems was preparing for the life as a future queen. She could be criticised for this but it seems to have worked out well for her, William , the RF and the country.

As an individual she is as accomplished as M. Same level of education. And many skills music/sport, socially skilled, and values such as duty, restraint and dignity M sorely lacks.

How has Catherine " preparing to be queen" worked out well for the country?
She achieves sod all. The same as the rest of them.

Stickystickysticky · 05/03/2025 15:22

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 15:17

Didn't Kate visit a women's prison a few weeks ago?

Yes she did !

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:23

Mylovelygreendress · 05/03/2025 14:59

Is this the final Netflix programme or is there something else in the pipeline ?
I seem to recall they were to make a film ?

Meet Me At The Lake. No signs of anything happening. I think Netflix own the rights, so they can produce it without the involvement of the Sussexes/Archewell.

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:24

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 15:19

@icedpurple I have heard your very tactful reminder that I mustn't derail the thread 😊

And I didn't,so apologies for derailing!

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 15:25

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:24

And I didn't,so apologies for derailing!

My comment wasn't aimed at you @Mightymoog

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:25

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:23

Meet Me At The Lake. No signs of anything happening. I think Netflix own the rights, so they can produce it without the involvement of the Sussexes/Archewell.

I vaguely remember 'meet me at the lake'
So it was going to be a film?
Featuring her?
Any idea what it was going to be about?

FarmerDramaLlama · 05/03/2025 15:26

I don’t think Meghan did anything creative because she hadn’t thought of it yet. She’s clearly not been cooking and making stuff all these years.
If the other projects had taken off she never would have mentioned this I’m sure, it’s another attempt to do something to make money.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:26

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:22

How has Catherine " preparing to be queen" worked out well for the country?
She achieves sod all. The same as the rest of them.

Well, the soft diplomacy the RF can provide is being used by Kier Starmer to cosy up the UK to Trump. I imagine it's a role that needs to be learned, not acted.

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:27

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 15:25

My comment wasn't aimed at you @Mightymoog

I know, but I was about to go on a rant about how none of them are of any actual use which isn't what the thread is about( just can't help myself sometimes 😁)

IcedPurple · 05/03/2025 15:27

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:23

Meet Me At The Lake. No signs of anything happening. I think Netflix own the rights, so they can produce it without the involvement of the Sussexes/Archewell.

Yes, it's been well over a year since we heard that they were supposedly producing this film, but not a word since then. Even allowing for delays owing to the writers' strike, that's a long time and would indicate that the film isn't going to happen, at least not with any Sussex involvement. Book rights get optioned all the time, so maybe NF has decided not to bother with it at all.

I can't see their contract being renewed. They've done a lot to promote this show, and while viewing figures seem OK at least at this very early stage, reviews are almost unanimously scathing. They've had 5 years to come up with the goods and failed. The 'documentary' doesn't really count as that was trading on their expired royal links.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 05/03/2025 15:31

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:25

I vaguely remember 'meet me at the lake'
So it was going to be a film?
Featuring her?
Any idea what it was going to be about?

She wasn't going to be in it, producing it, I think. The plot sounds like Hallmark Channel fodder:

Fern Brookbanks has wasted far too much of her adult life thinking about Will Baxter. She spent just twenty-four hours in her early twenties with the aggravatingly attractive, idealistic artist, a chance encounter that spiraled into a daylong adventure in Toronto. The timing was wrong, but their connection was undeniable: they shared every secret, every dream, and made a pact to meet one year later. Fern showed up. Will didn't.

At thirty-two, Fern's life doesn't look at all how she once imagined it would. Instead of living in the city, Fern's back home, running her mother's Muskoka lakeside resort—something she vowed never to do. The place is in disarray, her ex-boyfriend's the manager, and Fern doesn't know where to begin.

She needs a plan—a lifeline. To her surprise, it comes in the form of Will, who arrives nine years too late, with a suitcase in tow and an offer to help on his lips. Will may be the only person who understands what Fern's going through. But how could she possibly trust this expensive-suit wearing mirage who seems nothing like the young man she met all those years ago. Will is hiding something, and Fern's not sure she wants to know what it is.

But ten years ago, Will Baxter rescued Fern. Can she do the same for him?

IIRC, one of the characters lost their parents in a car crash....

IdaGlossop · 05/03/2025 15:31

Mightymoog · 05/03/2025 15:25

I vaguely remember 'meet me at the lake'
So it was going to be a film?
Featuring her?
Any idea what it was going to be about?

IIRC it was about a young woman's journey from the waterside as a passive peony to centre-stage as a global philanthropist and female founder, drawing on feminist archetypes to inspire, uplit and elevate people of all ages identifying as female through a revisionist lens. Or something along those lines.

Strudie · 05/03/2025 15:32

It’s interesting that a lot of posters on here aren’t fans of the royals - usually Meghan fans claim that her detractors are obsessed with the royal family and that’s the reason for disliking Meghan. Clearly not the case! I don’t have strong feelings, I think I lean towards being a bit defensive of the Wales family because they had such a shitty time last year, and I think the way Meghan and Harry threw them all under the bus was awful. But all my reasons for disliking (if that’s even the right word, it’s not that strong a feeling) Meghan are based on her own words and actions. I think I could admit it if With Love, Meghan was good or enjoyable, but it’s just not. On top of everything else, it’s just bloody boring!

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MonteShitshow · 05/03/2025 15:38

Hold your horses, the series has only been out a day. We still don’t know how it’s doing in the Netflix Nigeria charts. There could still be a surprise tell-all series, gardening series etc. The ‘next episode’ seems a heavy hint.

As for creativity being stifled while in the royal family, couldn’t she have designed a range of handwritten greeting cards for the royal palaces’ gift shops? Tea towels with calligraphy on? She could even have done a collab with Duchy Originals for edible flowers and bath salts. What a wasted opportunity.

Having followed the threads as a curious non-royalist, I feel the comments here have been intelligent, interesting, and not unkind. The newspaper and magazine reviews have been far more plain-speaking!

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