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Because they are of very limited ability and awareness, and without the structure of an institution, are shown to be weak, greedy and craven.

Agree charity begins at home.

What's the point of grandstanding around their 'contribution' to MH when their daily actions are hideous.

Who does a global interview to trash their famiy when their grandfather is in his final weeks on end of life care in hospital? What was his concern for his grandparents MH at this vulnerable time.

Who stands by when his wife hounds and harasses dozens of staff, driving some of them to immediate distress and tears, out of their jobs and inflicting on them such mental injury they require the support of MH professionals to recover?

They just dont ever come across as genuine and sincere, it's as if they are trying too hard to be something they aren't

Not everyone has to be super smart, philanthropic and perfect. Show people your flaws, talk about the mistakes and just be real

I can’t answer for others but I find the whole situation fascinating. How 2 people ( Harry and Meghan) had a huge platform , wealth and privilege and who could have done so much good , have ended up selling cake mixes and buying awards .

This x 💯

@Mylovelygreendress Yes!

Because pp are discussing the latest Sussex ventures, which are entertaining. . Do you only post about people that you like and respect?
H&M court publicity, they're controversial figures. People will comment. Meghan isn't some kind of harmless ingenue or ultra victim. She's set out to get famous and make money, based on titles and connections. Fine, but people are going to criticise.

Much the same.

And ultimately it is light entertainment - I am not ashamed that it amuses me because they put themselves out there. It's part of the deal, if you want publicity to pay your mortgage you have to accept that people will be interested and notice any hypocrisy.

It's the downright hypocrisy, classic Harry that leadership is not about controlling, yeah nothing screams supporting employees that making them sign NDA. Or blaming staff sobbing at their desks for their inability to process constructive critism. Why are they talked about because they are an entertaining parody show. I'm looking forward to reading about the staunch feminist show on being the perfect stepford wife.

I actually know a young man whose mother was murdered, he found her body. He went off the rails a couple of times but has sorted himself out and is now doing well. He's had precious little help with his mental health and certainly hasn't had the opportunities and access to counselling that Harry has.

@Stickystickysticky oh god, that is awful

Exactly, and there are so many cases like this. Harry seems to think he's alone, he's the only person who's experienced a tragedy. He needs to open his eyes.

William also experienced a tragedy

Yes and Sussex supporters ( and Harry) seem to forget that !

@Mylovelygreendress conveniently

He doesn't seem to count.

I just think everything they do lacks depth and heart, They flit from one thing to another, obviously I don't know what they do behind the scenes but seeing as much of what they do do is accompanied by some sort of fanfare I just don't see them doing anything of substance.
I'm passionate about child abuse ( who isn't) and so supported and volunteered for a charity helping children to report abuse and get help.
Harry obviously understands the heartbreak of losing a parent as a child, he could have done so much good supporting charities helping bereaved children .

I think so. And is quite clever to have all those merch. They are fair fast moving products. You can sell small things and make a profit on each. Even if someone buts a lemon juicer only, another will buy a wooden spoon while hard core fans will buy more. So good strategy. This may be what breaks them into the ultra millionaires with a steady income stream (soon after they left we were told they could be worth billions in months. Hasn't worked out yet but they have that $100 million and more to come). They are a very lucky happy couple even though they don't always feel themselves lucky.

If Harry in particular could go quietly without fanfare & help kids who had been through trauma & make a real difference I think.

@NautilusLionfish yes, exactly.

They are a very lucky happy couple even though they don't always feel themselves lucky
I'd love to know why they don't always feel themselves lucky . Christ, I've had some real shit thrown at me over the years (DA , serious rta resulting in a the loss of my career, bereavement, family member with a traumatic brain injury, seriously ill grandchild) but I still can count my blessings, I own my own home, have friends and family, a new career, I'm not starving.
They have all this and more but still play the victim.

The children of my cousin who was shot dead in a war zone whilst driving her young children to school haven’t grown up without scars and though they’re not poor they’re certainly not wealthy and they’ve relied on their faith to help them through the decades.

No child should ever have to pick the windscreen glass out of their mums hair after she’s been shot in the head and they’d be the first to say it was a long time ago, and they had to heal in order to live.

I'd be amazed if this business is what makes them "ultra millionaires" although I'll eat my words if I'm proven wrong.

Firstly, if the merch isn't ready until months after the show airs all the hype will have long ago died down (makes me wonder why Netflix would even want to be connected if the timing doesn't align) - unless she's going to do multiple series, which I just cannot see there being enough interest in.

And secondly, selling enough product to create a significant income stream is going to require enterprise levels of business strategy and management - distribution deals with big retailers, a serious e-commerce platform and marketing strategy, a robust production and fulfilment chain. A basic shopify website and a couple of Netflix pop up stores is not going to deliver that, and H&M have a handful of staff working for them.

They don't even have the basics in place for data management (as evidenced by the email list fiasco), and the haphazard and amateurish pre promotion for the show and the brand just reinforces they haven't a clue what they're doing.

I’ve often been asked to write the story of my life but apart from the fact I can’t write well at all I doubt very many people would believe what I’d have to say so it has to be a big fat no. 🙈

I'm getting more and more convinced that American Riveriera Orchard has sold its mailing list. To add to the numerous emails I have had from Porsche trying to sell me US$250,000 cars, this morning I've had one from California-based social platform Discord, which apparently I've joined. What I hadn't realised until this morning is that the Porsche concession offering me deals is based in guess where? California. My email address is unusual, not publicly available, and I receive no other emails from the States.