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As Ever #3 As If

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 23/02/2025 22:38

Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

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Uricon2 · 25/02/2025 08:40

elprup · 25/02/2025 05:12

I just reread The Cut piece again. Alison P. Davis is the most brilliant writer.

As an aside, does anyone know what the murderers row reference means here?

She has lined up a murderers’ row of guests: Constance Wu, Issa Rae, Lisa Ling, Margaret Cho, and Ziwe. (I’ll let you guess who aligns with which archetype.)

I think "Murderers Row" referred to the condemned wing in American prisons in the past, but this is more likely a reference to "Cell Block Tango" in "Chicago", where Renee Zellweger, Catherine Zeta Jones and a number of other women detail the things they're accused of.

ETA in the show of course! Sorry Renee and Catherine!

itsjustthewayitwas · 25/02/2025 08:43

AtIusvue · 25/02/2025 08:37

So this is also the link to the page six article-

‘The final straw came after the holidays when Markle demanded a number of things and went “ape s–t” when they weren’t done, a source says.’

The final straw came after the holidays when Markle demanded a number of things and went “ape s–t” when they weren’t done, a source says.

I wonder what she’s going to be like with her children’s teachers. I imagine an absolute nightmare.

AtIusvue · 25/02/2025 08:49

itsjustthewayitwas · 25/02/2025 08:43

I wonder what she’s going to be like with her children’s teachers. I imagine an absolute nightmare.

Didn't Harry n William have Royal protections officers at school. I wonder if they insist Archie has security at the school.

I’d imagine that would be a nightmare for the school, to deal with that everyday.

User14March · 25/02/2025 08:55

@AtIusvue I wouldn’t be surprised if they go for a Governess at home route. They can then curate the curriculum.

elprup · 25/02/2025 08:59

That latest Instagram story almost feels like it’s been filmed by accident in her pocket! Is it me or is there a constant sound in the background like a jet is taking off?

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 25/02/2025 09:03

My niece is a woc, she wishes MM would just occasionally not have chemically straightened hair. Growing up she associated being able to afford to straighten it with success, and she thinks for MM to occasionally show her natural hair would make her more aspirational.

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:10

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:46

They've put their children's images out there. We saw Archie in the bath during the Netflix series, Meghan reading a book to him, and they issued pictures of Lilibet on the occasion of her 1st birthday. They use those children when they want to. They have no moral superiority at all on this issue.
None.

This is absurd. Did H & M really show Archie having a bath? Not sure who Ari is but it seems as though they have interesting projects like the podcast and Harry’s charitable ventures. Not sure why they felt the need to air out their dirty laundry. It would have made this supposedly new Instagram page/new show more of a success if they held back a lot of unnecessary/difficult to prove stories because it looks like they’re just diminishing their mystique and it seems very out of touch.

FromThePrismOfJammyTodger · 25/02/2025 09:12

elprup · 25/02/2025 08:59

That latest Instagram story almost feels like it’s been filmed by accident in her pocket! Is it me or is there a constant sound in the background like a jet is taking off?

It sounds like an air conditioning unit or something.

What keen gardener doesn't have a proper hose attachment to control the flow and strength of the water? She's basically dumping too much water in one area, and sticking your thumb over the end of the hose hardly helps. Especially in a state that frowns on watering gardens with a hose in the first place.

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:12

itsjustthewayitwas · 25/02/2025 08:43

I wonder what she’s going to be like with her children’s teachers. I imagine an absolute nightmare.

I’d take info shared from tabloid news with a pinch of salt.

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:17

FromThePrismOfJammyTodger · 25/02/2025 08:30

Going back to the "Princess Meghan Markle" IP and the (batshit) assumptions about that...Having middle-class values, living a middle-class lifestyle, being educated, well-off, and committed to philanthropy and civic responsibility, especially wrt the black community, are part of the culture of the formerly reviled "black American princess" trope. It used to be pilloried (along with 'Jewish American Princess' and 'Italian American Princess') as an entitled, rather spoiled type, but it has been reclaimed as a badge of pride.

So is it also a common cultural thing for spoiled, entitled, middle class women of minority backgrounds to register an IP address in their name using the monicker "Princess"?

Coincidentally, she registered "Princess Meghan Markle" in 2014 around the same time she wrote in the Tig about wanting to be She-Ra, and making not so subtle digs at Princess Catherine. How very feminist of her.

Is there a way to check when an IP was registered? Would love to know if this is true. This would then mean she was always planning to become a princess? Besides, I thought Meghan closed down The Tig so I’m curious how people know that she made disparaging comments about Catherine.

smilesy · 25/02/2025 09:19

FromThePrismOfJammyTodger · 25/02/2025 09:12

It sounds like an air conditioning unit or something.

What keen gardener doesn't have a proper hose attachment to control the flow and strength of the water? She's basically dumping too much water in one area, and sticking your thumb over the end of the hose hardly helps. Especially in a state that frowns on watering gardens with a hose in the first place.

Perhaps she heard the phrase “doublet and hose” in relation to the royal family in ye olde days and confused it with something for the garden 🤔

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 09:20

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:10

This is absurd. Did H & M really show Archie having a bath? Not sure who Ari is but it seems as though they have interesting projects like the podcast and Harry’s charitable ventures. Not sure why they felt the need to air out their dirty laundry. It would have made this supposedly new Instagram page/new show more of a success if they held back a lot of unnecessary/difficult to prove stories because it looks like they’re just diminishing their mystique and it seems very out of touch.

You can google the pictures of Archie in the bath - he's very cute!

isaknowsbest · 25/02/2025 09:21

The Tig is out there. You always get that one person who screenshots comments etc for future use . 😂

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 09:23

isaknowsbest · 25/02/2025 09:21

The Tig is out there. You always get that one person who screenshots comments etc for future use . 😂

Especially her warm tributes to her father. In particular, a Father's Day one, not long before she met Harry.

isaknowsbest · 25/02/2025 09:23

User14March · 25/02/2025 08:55

@AtIusvue I wouldn’t be surprised if they go for a Governess at home route. They can then curate the curriculum.

Yes they can't have anyone else contributing to their creations . Home schooling maybe by themselves ?

BunnyLake · 25/02/2025 09:33

This has probably been covered but apparently we don’t know the real Meghan, I think either Mindy Kaling or Abigail Spencer, or maybe both, using that as a defence against all the recent mocking and backlash.

But apparently, she isn’t happy with them saying that. I’m not surprised as it basically confirms she keeps putting on different fake personas. I would say the real and true Meghan was shown on the Oprah show.

MummyJ12 · 25/02/2025 09:45

AtIusvue · 25/02/2025 08:06

Yeh I’m guessing it was a two year contract and it’s up soon in April and this is why we are getting stories now.

It could be she’s technically on the books til April but there’s been no renewal and it will naturally end because WME aren’t willing to work with her because of her behaviour….so that’s how she can be dropped but WME are still repping for her (for 5 more weeks)

I may be mistaken but I’m pretty sure that I reading that it was/is a three year contract. There was a misconception last year that the contract was up but it wasn’t.
I agree with the above, she’s not making them money so they will probably want to cut her loose. The tide has certainly turned for her both in Hollywood and the US. She was probably draining them of resources to keep any kind of positive momentum going. Even though they don’t do PR, WME and Endeavour is a machine that has a ton of connections and power.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/02/2025 09:48

itsjustthewayitwas · 25/02/2025 08:43

I wonder what she’s going to be like with her children’s teachers. I imagine an absolute nightmare.

Some time ago I read that the DC were to be homeschooled as Harry was worried about security .

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 09:49

Mylovelygreendress · 25/02/2025 09:48

Some time ago I read that the DC were to be homeschooled as Harry was worried about security .

Archie goes to school, though? At least he did when The Cut journalist went with him.

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:55

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 09:23

Especially her warm tributes to her father. In particular, a Father's Day one, not long before she met Harry.

Relationships can change over time. Who knows, maybe at that time she was portraying a closer relationship to her father than the one she actually has? If her family are indeed dysfunctional, she might not want to share that with the whole world. Perhaps Harry should take heed and do the same?

isaknowsbest · 25/02/2025 09:58

@mathanxiety I don't quite understand what you have said.

"Modeling a middle class lifestyle and 'giving back' to the community are very much a part of the culture of black middle class Americans, for whom visibly living the lifestyle of the comfortably off middle class is in itself a political statement. (This includes wearing the t-shirt of your extremely selective alma mater, that you had the self-confidence to apply to). It's also a case of the personal being political when the biracial angle enters the conversation. "

To me "modelling a lifestyle" means pretending and showing off a lifestyle which is seen to be successful by others as opposed to your own authentic one. Let's be honest though she's not modelling a middle class lifestyle it's a very high end one. As Keith Lemon would say " what is the message?"

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 09:59

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:55

Relationships can change over time. Who knows, maybe at that time she was portraying a closer relationship to her father than the one she actually has? If her family are indeed dysfunctional, she might not want to share that with the whole world. Perhaps Harry should take heed and do the same?

You're saying various different things there.
At one point, not long before her marriage she either had a warm and positive relationship with her father, or curated the Tig to suggest that.
I'm not sure why Harry should go on social media to do the same? It would be a silly exercise. He's monetised telling negative stories and invading the privacy of close family members, including his father, so a warm Father's Day tribute would be extraordinary.

isaknowsbest · 25/02/2025 10:08

Now we have James Hewitt getting in on it all on UK TV saying Diana would have wanted Harry and William to reconcile.

User14March · 25/02/2025 10:12

@isaknowsbest am sure he’s right.

MummyJ12 · 25/02/2025 10:12

PrawnDrench · 25/02/2025 09:55

Relationships can change over time. Who knows, maybe at that time she was portraying a closer relationship to her father than the one she actually has? If her family are indeed dysfunctional, she might not want to share that with the whole world. Perhaps Harry should take heed and do the same?

I think more inauthenticity is the last thing people want from the couple.

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