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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 23/02/2025 22:38

Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

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IcedPurple · 24/02/2025 18:48

However, Meghan is extremely relatable in the US, where wealth is not pooh poohed, and in fact is celebrated. She reaches audiences Jamie Oliver does not.

Jamie Oliver is a bit annoying but he's a talented cook with a track record going back decades now. His books and TV shows have been enjoyed by millions over the years.

What does Meghan offer to all those 'audiences' who find her 'extremely relatable'? She has no cooking credentials whatsoever. What is it about her that is 'extremely relatable'? Could you be specific?

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:48

Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 18:40

Wasn’t it because the writer talked about Meghan giving instructions about how to write ? Something about Meghan making noises ?
I will Google !

There was. It's very funny. Guttural noises was M's suggestion on how they should be described.

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:10

She may have good quality degree in theatre but she hasn't done any high quality acting roles. Has she done theatre?
She doesn't seem interested in pursuing her craft. She'd prefer to sell tat.

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:49

@StrawberryWasp - they've not kept the children out of the limelight, it's just that they've been a bit selective. Fine, but let's not pretend it's a "privacy" issue.

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:50

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:48

There was. It's very funny. Guttural noises was M's suggestion on how they should be described.

Oh my goodness! The Cut interview was hilarious 😂!

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:52

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

Selling a lifestyle? How does that make money then?
From the mech.
The mech and the money is the point.

Otherwise lead a private life surely?

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:52

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

Let's say that it helps.

itsjustthewayitwas · 24/02/2025 18:53

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

A platform to do what? Her lifestyle is for the rich and famous. Those who have the means will not be looking to her for guidance.

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:54

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:52

Selling a lifestyle? How does that make money then?
From the mech.
The mech and the money is the point.

Otherwise lead a private life surely?

A private life is the very last thing either Harry or Meghan want.

Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 18:55

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:54

A private life is the very last thing either Harry or Meghan want.

I think Harry would be quite happy living quietly ( so long as Pa paid) but Meghan has worked her whole life to be famous so will never retreat and live quietly .

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:57

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

It's pretty good I agree being on a popular show. But it's not regarded as serious acting is it?
Did she ever do any serious roles? I genuinely don't know?

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 24/02/2025 18:57

She has had a long running role in a popular show.

Well, she had a role, about seven years ago. That's it, is it? A few years as the office popsy? I bet Judi Dench is quaking in her boots.

Rhaidimiddim · 24/02/2025 18:57

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 18:18

It's worth a reread of this a few years on.
https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-profile-interview.html

It's very clever writing and captures the authors perception of M very well. You can tell she feels that M is totally performative but still sort of likes her because she's trying so hard.

I reread it as I was looking for a quote from M about her children where she said something along the lines of 'my children are amazing because I'm developing their creativity' or something which basically said 'my children are amazing because I am amazing'. It was such a red flag narcissist parent quote to me and has always surprised mt that it wasn't commented on more. The idea that her children have to be amazing reflectionsof her. But it wasn't this article so I'm not sure where it was?

I, too, recall reading that passage. It was, in my recollection, somthing like " We're creating these <something something> people" and I though then, narc flag. I was sure it was in that interview, but the passage seems to have been removed.

DuchessOfPort · 24/02/2025 18:57

The children thing is odd - is she doing children’s parties? If so, fair enough to have them skipping about probably. But if she isn’t, they are just marketing for her.

I don’t much mind Meghan doing this sort of tv - she should have done it years ago and not gone straight for cashing in a version of “her truth” by bitching exaggeratedly and often dishonestly about her husband’s family as well as trying to stir a hornet’s nest online to criticise them.

She seems to be fucking absolutely everything up in doing it; the trademarks, the launch, the bad press in between, the apparent total lack of originality, a rented place to be “Meghan at home” type stuff.

Nothing goes well for her. And I am so sure it’s because she won’t take advice from anyone at all. Story of her life. She knows best and can’t understand why it all goes tits up, all the time!

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 18:59

Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 18:55

I think Harry would be quite happy living quietly ( so long as Pa paid) but Meghan has worked her whole life to be famous so will never retreat and live quietly .

True, but I think we've seen that Harry is just as entitled and focused on status as Meghan is.

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 19:02

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:45

Millions of MC Americans think and talk like that.

They're in America and their audience is American.

British reactions (as on this thread) are irrelevant, but that fact seems not to have sunk in in Britain.

Americans do do more blatant self promotion unselfconsciously than the Brits I agree, but I do think this is quite an extreme example even for the USA. (This is Trump level boasting, and he's quite popular though!)

I did make the point on the last thread that I think her self promotion and persistence (which I referred to as hustling which upset some people...) is more acceptable and admired in the USA than here.

We will see. Which keeps it interesting!

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 19:02

@mathanxiety we've seen very clear photos and film of both Archie and Lilibet. Did anyone comment on their "African" features? I only recall comments about them being cute.
Harry has commented on their colouring and eyes.

IcedPurple · 24/02/2025 19:04

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:49

She has had a long running role in a popular show. These are very hard to get.

She's selling a lifestyle and establishing a platform. The merch isn't integral to the operation.

A 'platform' for what? Amateur videos of her frolicking around what is presumably her garden, with shots of random limbs presumably belonging to her children?

5 years ago she was going to change the world. Now she's 'selling a lifestyle' of ostentatious wealth.

Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 19:08

Someone on X posted this.

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Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 19:08

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MummyJ12 · 24/02/2025 19:10

This is an article regarding Alison P. Davis being made to take an extended period of unpaid leave following her piece on Meghan.
I believe that she is now back at work with The Cut, thankfully.

honey.nine.com.au/royals/meghan-markle-complaints-the-cut-journalist-allison-p-davis-unpaid-leave/c7625ecb-728b-4eb7-82a5-004db13c2172

IdaGlossop · 24/02/2025 19:11

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 18:40

Jamie Oliver is also British, let's face it, and therefore his cheeky schtick goes down well in Britain.

However, Meghan is extremely relatable in the US, where wealth is not pooh poohed, and in fact is celebrated. She reaches audiences Jamie Oliver does not.

Is the 'fiddling with food' whinge about the cookbook the Hubb Community Kitchen published? It has raised over $1.2 million, or £911k as of 2024. If she has 'fiddled with food' elsewhere, who can blame her for thinking she might replicate that success.

Her children are possible targets for paparazzi and for terrorists. Unlike Our Dear President Musk, she and H choose not to parade them like trophies or evidence of virility, or use them as human shields. They will never inherit the throne, and there is no need to have their images put to use to increase the popularity of the Monarchy or their parents.

Knowing the propensity of the more crass kind of people to speculate and remark about African features, H and M are wise not to put their children's images out there. The daily lived experience of biracial children is not always a smooth one in any Western society.

If you look for photos of children of other close relatives in the RF (apart from the Wales family), you'll have a hard time finding any authorised shots of faces. This is not a case of 'preciousness'.

I take the point about aspiration being more acceptable in the US than in the UK but parading her wealth during a cost of living crisis will not go down well with many in the US. 'Fiddling with food' is not a whinge. It is an observation about her dilettante approach to cooking on the visits she has made since moving to the US and in the trailer (dabbing her finger-tips in the foccaccia). The Hubb Community Kitchen project was successful and creative. I was impressed at the time and expected her to do more projects of the same kind. She has not done.

I maintain my position that they are precious in the way they shares images of their children. They could choose to keep them completely private. Instead, they show a foot, a hand, the back of a head, a back running away. The Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh's children have been photographed with their faces visible throughout their childhood. Ditto the daughters of Prince Andrew and Fergie. All are easy to find. As these shots have been taken in public places in the presence of their parents, it's reasonable to assume they were authorised. The few shots of Archie and Lily we have seen which show their faces show two attractive children with ginger hair and pale skin. The reality is they are more likely to be teased for being red-heads than to be insulted for being bi-racial, although having experienced the former as a child, I hope they escape both, and never have to suffer the racist abuse thrown at Meghan by the Daily Mail in particular when she lived in the UK..

NormaMajors1992coat · 24/02/2025 19:12

MissFenellaPrism · 24/02/2025 19:02

@mathanxiety we've seen very clear photos and film of both Archie and Lilibet. Did anyone comment on their "African" features? I only recall comments about them being cute.
Harry has commented on their colouring and eyes.

He has also commented on how he didn't think his genes would be able to "stand up" to Meghan's, but they did, because the Spencer gene is "very strong".

StrawberryWasp · 24/02/2025 19:13

Mylovelygreendress · 24/02/2025 19:08

Someone on X posted this.

I can't get excited abut that Diana wore a lot of outfits there are bound to be similarities.

IdaGlossop · 24/02/2025 19:14

NormaMajors1992coat · 24/02/2025 19:12

He has also commented on how he didn't think his genes would be able to "stand up" to Meghan's, but they did, because the Spencer gene is "very strong".

A comment that shows Harry doesn't understand genetics. Each child, amazingly, must have two ginger genes, one from Harry who has two, and one from Meghan, who must have got her one from her father.

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