How will the Royal Family end?

[JoyousGreyOrca]

The Royal Family will end. Not yet obviously. But within the next generation.

People often assume institutions like this fall slowly and gradually. We see a bit of that already happening with the reduction in "working" Royals, far less favourable poll results than when Queen Elizabeth reigned, and the willingness of the media to be more critical of the Royal Family.

I have seen people commenting assuming this means the Royal family will end soon. I think they misunderstand what is happening.

But society is changing and the deference that Queen Elizabeth attracted can no longer be taken for granted. Colonies are no longer happy for the Royals to carry out cosplay colonial tours on their soil, and increasingly they will remove the King as their Head of State. But I think when the end comes it will be sudden and unexpected. Similar to the fall of the Soviet Union. A clear weakening of the institution, but then a sudden, and shocking fall.

The aftermath will be very messy though as the Royal family try and fight for as much of the states wealth as they can, using the courts if they need to.

I admit I am slightly confused, but it is becoming clearer. Charles was the Royal involved in the creation of Nansledan in Cornwall. Article below from 2019 local Cornwall paper all about it. It says in 2019 it is being built. And five days ago Charles, Keir Stramer and Angela Raynor toured Nansledan.

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/life-inside-huge-new-town-3436339

In 2024 William said he would build 24 homes on Duchy land in Nansledan. This is with a charity who will provide temporary accommodation and 24 hour wrap around support. The charity has been working to support homeless people in Cornwall for over 30 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-68330944#:~:text=Prince%20William%20has%20announced%20plans%20to%20build%2024,are%20due%20to%20be%20completed%20in%20autumn%202025.

So Charles project is basically a second Poundsbury. With Williams is it just that the Duchy have sold or rented land to the charity to build their project? Its not clear.

Nansledan is Duchy land so was under Charles control and has now passed to PW. PW is putting in the land for the homeless project and is linking the community centre being built into a mental health support hub. I see it as PW shaping existing Duchy work (Nansledan) with his areas of focus - temporary accommodation for homelessness, mental health support etc
edited to say thank you!

@myrtleWilson what does putting in mean? Is he selling or renting the land or giving it for free?

I believe William’s project is not just housing - it’s a housing scheme to help homeless people transition from homelessness to their own places - so it’s temporary housing plus a load of support from a homeless charity to help them adjust back into independent life after becoming homeless.

They get a place to stay for a set period of time and then supported (mental health, life skills, job skills etc) to move on to a more permanent place of their own. Then another person gets their place.

That’s why it’s being talked about as a pilot project template. And why it’s starting off small. The idea is to test it and then scale up and across the country with localized experts in homelessness taking the lead within their communities.

@wordler I know. I posted about it. A Cornwall charity who has supported people for 30 years in Cornwall will be providing 24 hour support to people in temporary housing. It sounds a good project, but it is not unique. It is the kind of project local charities do all around the country.

Do you work in housing @JoyousGreyOrca

@myrtleWilson Why do you ask?

@myrtleWilson For your info, Housing First is the current innovative way of supporting homeless people.
I am not dissing this charities project, I am sure it will do good work, but it is not innovative.
And I am assuming your silence to my question means William is charging the charity rent through the Duchy?
So all that is really happening is the charity is renting land and has to put up with William over claiming what is happening. Not unusual for local charities to have to suffer this nonsense sadly.

I’m well aware of Housing First thank you! I’ve had a career of over 25yrs in the social housing sector and now work in the VCSE field.
You've misattributed my silence as I’ve been distracted by the football but will see what I can find out re development details! I see that a future phase of the plan will look at private sector leasing which will be great if they can make it stack up with UC levels

@myrtleWilson thank you I would like to know that.

Curiously I note that the Mail are reporting William and Catherine are currently holidaying in Mustique, with their last holiday being a ski holiday over the New Year. The Mail do not normally report information like this that could be interpreted negatively.
I think part of the issue for the Mail may be the lack of Royal news to report. There is simply not enough engagements happening that they can report on, that are of public interest. They would have reported on the BAFTAs for instance if Catherine had attended in a new dress. And everyone seems to be getting bored of the isn't Harry and Meghan terrible game.

The Mail are also rehashing an article on Meghan's first baby shower. They seem to have run out of royal news.

Quite strange because the King and the Queen have been visiting some really interesting charities. It's almost as if The Mail are only interested in stirring up trouble rather than news reporting.

I think they have run out of Royal news as well.
The Royal news is never really about the charities they support, or very rarely, whatever is claimed. There is usually less written about the charity than the clothes Catherine is wearing for example.
I noticed Royal internets sites seem to be doing a lot of revisiting old photos and events as well.
It will not matter for a while, but eventually if there is not more Royal news that gets the media views, someone will be tempted to go to more controversial territory,

And I am assuming your silence to my question means William is charging the charity rent through the Duchy?

It would almost certainly be against the governing rules of the Duchy to allow its assets to be used for free. That is the usual case with any kind of asset management fund or trust fund. Or indeed any charity.

I find it frustrating because I follow several working royals on Instagram and they visit some amazing charities that deserve publicity.

If they really controlled the press (!) I'm sure we'd see more articles about the charities they visit.

So all William is really doing is renting land to a Cornwall charity to build its homelessness project.

@MrsLeonFarrell Its not about who controls the press, it is about what people are interested in. The media need clicks or subscriptions, and if people are not interested, they will not read it.
Obviously this does not always apply, but it is a general truth.

Not if he's spending $4 million of his own money. One of the NYC libraries partnered with local groups to build affordable housing eith ab expanded library. The library pays a token rent for their space. Perhaps the D of C is planning on a similar arrangement.
https://fifthave.org/affordable-housing/sunset-park-brooklyn-public-library-affordable-housing/

@BemusedAmerican How is William spending £4 million of his own money?

I read over and over here that the Royal family control the press, I was just pointing out that if that was true they would be planting far more stories about their work rather than their frocks.

Presumably he contacts his bank and asks them to transfer the money 🤪

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/prince-william-to-build-24-homes-for-the-unhoused-on-his-cornwall-estate

William has brought together local homeless charities and they are running pilot projects in specific areas that meet specific local homeless needs. The idea is that if it's successful after the 5 year trial they can use the model nationally. Money is also being put in by his foundation. He is doing far more than donating land. I heard some people who work in the sector interviewed on Radio 4 when it was launched and I was surprised how supportive they were. I had assumed charities already worked together but this wasn't always the case.

Architectural Digest is considered a reputable publication. The conversion rate was probably calculated when the article was written.

Our local public library system has a magazine database that we can access for free. It carries alot of UK publications, possibly because of the big expat population. Two of the housing magazines show houses that people renovated, then show links to how they can be rented. I wasn't surprised that so many people in Cornwall are displaced because of second homes and your version of AirBNB.