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How will the Royal Family end?

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JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 15:31

The Royal Family will end. Not yet obviously. But within the next generation.

People often assume institutions like this fall slowly and gradually. We see a bit of that already happening with the reduction in "working" Royals, far less favourable poll results than when Queen Elizabeth reigned, and the willingness of the media to be more critical of the Royal Family.

I have seen people commenting assuming this means the Royal family will end soon. I think they misunderstand what is happening.

But society is changing and the deference that Queen Elizabeth attracted can no longer be taken for granted. Colonies are no longer happy for the Royals to carry out cosplay colonial tours on their soil, and increasingly they will remove the King as their Head of State. But I think when the end comes it will be sudden and unexpected. Similar to the fall of the Soviet Union. A clear weakening of the institution, but then a sudden, and shocking fall.

The aftermath will be very messy though as the Royal family try and fight for as much of the states wealth as they can, using the courts if they need to.

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JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:14

The Royal Household now costs the UK taxpayer more than half a billion pounds a year. That's according to a new report published by campaign group Republic. The estimated price tag of £510m includes hundreds of millions of pounds not accounted for by the Sovereign Grant.
Royals cost over half a billion pounds a year: New Report

www.republic.org.uk/royals_cost_over_half_a_billion_pounds_a_year_new_report

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JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:15

TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:14

Guillotine was my first thought to be honest 😂
I suppose never say never. Who knows what the future holds.

Not going to happen. We are not French.

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TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:16

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:13

Really?? He is getting away with how he is because he is not the Head of State, media protect him, and Catherine had cancer.
His lack of work will not bring down the Royal Family. But I do not think he is aware enough or strategically nimble enough to recognise threats to the Royal family and respond appropriately. That is what will bring them down.

I get you don’t like the RF but there are many people young and old who do.
His lack of work? Because he wanted to have a work life balance and care for his family?
What are your thoughts on Harry leaving because he wanted a better life?

Samcro · 13/02/2025 16:17

TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:08

Not being able to buy a home has nothing to do with the RF and everything to do with governments.
If obvious the RF are rich, it’s what they are. It’s of no significance in everyday life.
Why would anyone compare themselves to the RF and their wealth?

yes I know that. but people who are in that situation or worse. are not going to be that supportive of a the RF. who live in splendour and do very little.

disclaimer. I actually like having a RF and Like KC.

Dabralor · 13/02/2025 16:18

The royal family will die off, the crown is constant. As the sun rises and sets, the Crown continues in the way it has done for centuries- it is the mystical and invisible force that holds together all our institutions. If they all die out a new claimant will take the throne and be the human face of the Crown.

Whether you think they are a bit lazy or not is of no consequence.
William isn't the busiest but he doesn't drown his family in vats of wine or kill everyone in the north of England- any misdemeanours you can think of balk in the wake of his ancestors.

menopausalfart · 13/02/2025 16:19

Quickly and soon, hopefully.

HeadacheEarthquake · 13/02/2025 16:20

Dabralor · 13/02/2025 16:18

The royal family will die off, the crown is constant. As the sun rises and sets, the Crown continues in the way it has done for centuries- it is the mystical and invisible force that holds together all our institutions. If they all die out a new claimant will take the throne and be the human face of the Crown.

Whether you think they are a bit lazy or not is of no consequence.
William isn't the busiest but he doesn't drown his family in vats of wine or kill everyone in the north of England- any misdemeanours you can think of balk in the wake of his ancestors.

Edited

Fucking hell. Put down the glue.

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:21

TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:16

I get you don’t like the RF but there are many people young and old who do.
His lack of work? Because he wanted to have a work life balance and care for his family?
What are your thoughts on Harry leaving because he wanted a better life?

I would be happy if they all left the Royal family and made their own money.
William always has a very low number of "work" commitments. We have been told for years he is going to step up when... He never does. His elderly father who has cancer does more. Anne who is elderly and had a serious head injury, still did more.

Queen Elizabeth is right, that they have to be seen to be believed.
In spite of the polls, William routinely gets booed at football matches, and has no one or few turn up to see him at some public events.

I think all Heads of State face crisis though. They have to be able to adapt to respond. I am not sure that is going to happen in the future. I think William simply thinks the Monarchy will exist for ever.

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TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:22

Samcro · 13/02/2025 16:17

yes I know that. but people who are in that situation or worse. are not going to be that supportive of a the RF. who live in splendour and do very little.

disclaimer. I actually like having a RF and Like KC.

I still don’t feel that people should compare their lives with the lives of royalty.
They are worlds apart.
Obviously there are people who will but I doubt those people are paying the amount back into the system that the RF are.
Perhaps I’m just being too sensitive here but I do think that people should have more knowledge about them before wanting Trump UK.
I too like having g a RF but I’m not keen on Charles. I will be happy to see William as king though.

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:22

Dabralor · 13/02/2025 16:18

The royal family will die off, the crown is constant. As the sun rises and sets, the Crown continues in the way it has done for centuries- it is the mystical and invisible force that holds together all our institutions. If they all die out a new claimant will take the throne and be the human face of the Crown.

Whether you think they are a bit lazy or not is of no consequence.
William isn't the busiest but he doesn't drown his family in vats of wine or kill everyone in the north of England- any misdemeanours you can think of balk in the wake of his ancestors.

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As long as he does not kill everyone in Northern England then everything is fine and I was wrong.
Maybe just kill a few then?

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Pemba · 13/02/2025 16:23

I just think that probably it will slowly fizzle out. I thought that according to polls, young people are simply not interested in them.

SleepyHippy3 · 13/02/2025 16:24

Dabralor · 13/02/2025 16:18

The royal family will die off, the crown is constant. As the sun rises and sets, the Crown continues in the way it has done for centuries- it is the mystical and invisible force that holds together all our institutions. If they all die out a new claimant will take the throne and be the human face of the Crown.

Whether you think they are a bit lazy or not is of no consequence.
William isn't the busiest but he doesn't drown his family in vats of wine or kill everyone in the north of England- any misdemeanours you can think of balk in the wake of his ancestors.

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Oh give over.

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:25

Pemba · 13/02/2025 16:23

I just think that probably it will slowly fizzle out. I thought that according to polls, young people are simply not interested in them.

They are not. And the crisis could be as simple as the publics unhappiness at the expenditure on George's wedding.

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Samcro · 13/02/2025 16:25

TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:22

I still don’t feel that people should compare their lives with the lives of royalty.
They are worlds apart.
Obviously there are people who will but I doubt those people are paying the amount back into the system that the RF are.
Perhaps I’m just being too sensitive here but I do think that people should have more knowledge about them before wanting Trump UK.
I too like having g a RF but I’m not keen on Charles. I will be happy to see William as king though.

I like Charles and hopefully when his time comes William will be good.
But when I speak to younger people (at my age most people are lol) they are very anti.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/02/2025 16:26

In the Caliphate, of course. And that won’t be William or George.

or we might have a non Royal dictator, I suppose.

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:27

Young people have always been pretty anti, but that usually changes with age. It does not now seem to do so.

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JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:27

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen Go away with your racist shite

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TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:30

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:27

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen Go away with your racist shite

Sorry to be pedantic but it’s not racism

PixieandDelilahsmum · 13/02/2025 16:30

I think every generation has speculated that this will happen. And it has happened and it was restored. I think that establishment is expert at survival.

cerisierblossom · 13/02/2025 16:31

I am anti-royalty.

Honestly with the state of the country I think the attitudes within the next 10-15 years will change to the extent that they realise they're not serving people who love them anymore and they'll opt to lose their titles, keep their money and become rich people who just exist

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:31

TinklySnail · 13/02/2025 16:30

Sorry to be pedantic but it’s not racism

Sorry you are right. Islamophobia. And not acceptable.

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LlamaDrama20 · 13/02/2025 16:32

It will become more like the European Royals - still there, but more in the background.
They are essentially state-sponsored celebrities and there's a sizeable proportion of people who love them. I can't see a revolution any time soon.

If they were culled tomorrow there would be a void which would end up being filled by vacuous celebs like Trump, Musk, the Kardashians, the Beckhams, Harry & Meghan etc.

Although nobody seems to understand this, they do actually fulfill some important roles to do with diplomacy and foreign relations.

JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:32

PixieandDelilahsmum · 13/02/2025 16:30

I think every generation has speculated that this will happen. And it has happened and it was restored. I think that establishment is expert at survival.

Queen Elizabeth was Head of State for a looonngg time. Nothing was going to happen whilst she was the Head of State.

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JoyousGreyOrca · 13/02/2025 16:35

@LlamaDrama20 It was reported in the press that the Foreign Office were unhappy at William refusing to go on certain foreign visits because of Catherine's cancer.
If the diplomacy is going to continue, he will have to step up and go where the Foreign Office want him to go, rather than picking and choosing what he does.

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polinkhausive · 13/02/2025 16:37

My guess is that the public will continue the trend of being less royalist gradually until some kind of crisis precipitates change

Something like if it had been Charles not Andrew with the Virginia Giuffre case.

I do think that once the older generation of royals retires/dies, it will be interesting to see whether the much trailed stepping it up actually happens from William/Kate - my guess is not. They will probably shift from too busy with the kids to too old seamlessly

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