Invictus 2025

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Why is Meghan on the stage ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14374977/Meghan-lovingly-Prince-Harry-Invictus-Games-Vancouver-crowd.html

@veraswaistcoat That was a wonderful clip. Thanks for posting it!

It's because he uses everything to his own advantage, they don't care it's associating IVG with a spat, but they've literally raped IVG for everything they can take from it, disgusting PR forum for them, jet setting, hotel suites, clothes that cost a fortune, all of this will have come from IVG or off the back
Of it, if not directly from their bank account. They literally disgust me so much, they're bottom feeders

Security at the IG will be very tight due to the high level military and political figures expected to attend. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for Archie and Lili. I would imagine it's more secure than being left in a sprawling mansion in California, which Meghan was helpful enough to tell any potential kidnappers about.

Meghan only seems able to respond to predictable situations, and children by nature are unpredictable. I don't think any of her stock personas could cope with one of them having a public tantrum, for example. Plus, they might take attention away from her, and that would never do.

If IVG is his job, then why all the inappropriate behaviour - if anyone started snogging their spouse at my work, I genuinely think they would be given time off to investigate therapy. It is so inappropriate and unprofessional.

I do wonder if it is a deliberate reaction to the fact the RF are seen as cold and aloof - is this Meghans way of saying 'look we are so much better than the RF' .

Yes I found that strange that she said they were at home in California. Although that could be untrue and they could be somewhere else, or they don’t live in that Montecito mansion as some suspect.

I totally agree about the unpredictability of children and this is where I believe she would fall down massively. I simply can't see her as a natural, instinctive, mother.

I don't think having titles as Americans will do poor Archie and Lili any favours at all. It will attract attention, some doubtless negative and put all kinds of expectations on them

I once knew a very nice Polish Count who only used his in attempting to get his families Old Masters (including several Rubens) returned to him by the then Government (no real hope, bit of a game) He had contracted polio as a baby while his family were fleeing the Nazis and had lifelong health issues. He saw it as a bit of a joke TBH, used to say all very well if you've still got a castle to your name, bit silly in the queue at the Jobcentre.

Shame Harry couldn't be present to award the UK curling team their medals.x.com/freedom_007__/status/1888920757763289521?s=46&t=zeqvo7Iw1m8V4kXAX7nn1A

I wonder if they think they're future proofing them, and opening doors.
They certainly believe in unearned privilege.

Totally agree but I think it will be at least a double edged sword. Far, far better to have gone down the route Anne was wise enough to take all those years ago.

I don't think titles in themselves will open doors. There are lots of assorted princes, princesses, dukes, countesses and what not in America.

It's proximity to the royal family and appearing at royal events which would raise interest. Sure, they're the grandchildren of a King but in itself that's not very interesting. I would say the untitled Tindall kids or even Beatrice's stepson Wolfie will be in a better position to make use of their royal connections in the future than the Prince and Princess of Montecito.

@CatsWhiskerz

… jet setting….

Following on from some of yesterday’s debate on that topic and having done a bit of digging overnight it looks like the couple travelled north by business jet (gets a mention in some syndicated reports on-line)…

https://www.geo.tv/latest/589657-meghan-markle-prince-harry-canada-trip-first-official-photo-released

The tracking sites show a very nice privately owned Bombardier Challenger 605 flying from Santa Barbara to Vancouver, Friday PM local, timings fit in with media reports. No idea who picked up the bill…

Yes, that's a really good point. You have to be royal adjacent. They chose not to be.

Harry will never say 'Honey, just stay at home this time'. The more her behaviour is criticised, the more he will support her and let her take centre stage because the resulting fall out (for him) would be catastrophic and I don't think divorce would ever be his choice.

If you really love your husband, you would allow him to take centre stage, there's no way you would want to take the limelight from him.

They're loving it on Celebitchy! As long as Meghan is sporting several changes of designer clothes each day and she and Harry are snogging on camera, that's all that matters to that crazy crowd.

No mention of the awful behaviour with the wheelchair etc etc. And they seem to think that the veterans are just as thrilled with H and M as they are. It's pretty depressing.

She moved someone in a wheelchair at the invictus games without asking permission so she, Megan would be better placed for a photo. The woman is off her rocker and needs to be taken down a peg or two.

The passing it onto Archie thing is a very telling comment. I think Harry STILL hasn't understood that severity of what he's done. He has turned his back on duty. He had his military honours removed. His wife literally cannot understand the concept of duty, she's all about not giving the milkshake away for free/I can't believe I'm not being paid for this. That boy will be raised, in California, with no idea of what duty looks like. More to the point, he is being raised in a family and community and society where duty only ever has resonance in the military. Everyone else is about self-advancement as the #1 priority. He will be an American teenager/young adult who will have been raised to think that his life is his to determine, his to decide. What if he tells his dad he hasn't the slightest interest in doing anything for Invictus?

Harry has no concept of life outside the RF, how could he. I imagine the last 5 years have been eye-opening, but after taking the Prince/Princess titles and openly referring to them as birthrights, I think he STILL thinks his children aren't ordinary, they're royal. I think he STILL thinks he'll go back, and take his children with him on terms favourable to them.

In the same way that Meghan is redefining the value of "Duchess", Archie and Lilibet will redefine the value of "Prince" and "Princess". What is a king without a kingdom; a Prince or Princess of GB and the UK who don't know their family, don't go to the country, have no idea what the RF is about or what to do with it - and whose parents have openly turned their back on all that AND shown less than no duty towards it.

I think Harry's worst years are yet to come. I think he's still living in cloud cuckoo land. Mind you, I did feel a pang of pity at that photo of him tearing up when the bagpipes were playing (when Meghan was leaning on his shoulder and he's leaning away looking distraught). I know what it's like to miss home, and I think he misses home terribly. It's a gut punch that takes you by surprise when reminders come out of nowhere.

I agree with pps who are irritated by her attention-seeking and fashion show, and the decision not to wear Invictus gear.

But Meghan is utterly lost when she isn't somehow the centre of attention. I cannot stand the woman, but I genuinely think it's pathological with her. She jsut doesn't know what to do with her body or her face when the focus is supposed to be on someone else - even her own beloved husband and father of her children 😂.

So off she goes with the seal-clapping, performative laughing and smiling, even talking to herself - anything but just sitting still with a calm expression and either listening to or watching what is going on like any regular person. There's a video from a while back where she's at some sporting event, sitting next to someone important who's involved, and this chap is trying to watch the match but Meghan wants to chat. The man resolutely keeps his eyes on the game so Meghan starts to talk to herself, nodding and smiling etc. Someone analysed this and concluded that because she's ALWAYS performing for the camera and there's usually a film being made for later use, she cannot afford to appear snubbed in any situation so, although the talking to herself looked crazy at the time, it could presumably be edited to give the impression she was engaging in fascinating conversation with this other chap.

Whatever she's doing, she's always, always performing - and not terribly well. Truly pathetic. She's an utterly hollow person.

By the time the children are grown up, people in the US may think 'Princess' is Lilibet's first name, just like Katie Price's daughter.

More criticism

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14380225/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-slammed-using-golf-buggy-ride-passed-disabled-veterans-Invictus-Games.html

I've not followed Invictus very closely but I am surprised that only 550 athletes are competing. It seems a huge amount of organisation for such a small number. I'm also appalled that the athletes have to pay their own transport, especially as H&M probably don't. Harry really comes alive when he's interacting with people, especially children and he is a good, even excellent speaker. Meghan looks and sounds insincere whatever she does. The organisers need to get a grip and find a way of managing Meghan as she overshadows everything! Invictus has such potential. I hope it finds a way of realising it.

Even though Trump is an absolute arse ( being polite) it's probably ill advised to piss off the man that has the power to boot you out of the country

William and Kate were slammed for being driven in a vehicle past lines of military personnel looking colonial in ?Jamaica not long ago. This is very unwise of H&M. It looks absurd - injured veterans on their feet, H&M sitting down.

I think Harry is safe. Trump won't want Melania's resident status looked into and he doesn't want to fall out with the Royal family.

So Harry did not even present medals to the U.K. curling team!
He was sat with Meghan reading a book !

Has he learned nothing? His whole point of being there is as patron and mascot , presenting the medals is definitely his job!!

It's the lion king premier all over again.