Prince Louis the photographer

[PrettyFlyforaMaiTai]

Kensington Palace have released a photo of the Princess of Wales photographed by her youngest son, Prince Louis. It is to mark World Cancer Day, which is tomorrow.

How cute!

Also just a general point, cancer is an umbrella term for a wide variety of experiences of illness. I have loved people who have died of cancer and along the way suffered lots of side effects of treatment. I have also had friends who have had cancer and only had radiotherapy and two who said they suffered absolutely no side effects at all. I know this is not everyone's experience, but both said the only issue with their treatment was boredom.

What is your point exactly?

Well most of the people I've known and loved have suffered horrendously through treatment, and some of them have died.

@JSMill I was responding to those first who were basically arguing anyone who has seen cancer close up would never criticise Catherine. So I was explaining I sadly have loved lots of people who had cancer. And secondly responding to those saying basically OMG Catherine had cancer, how dare you criticise her photo.
I do not accept having cancer means you are immune from all criticism.

@drivinmecrazy you need to be on the other threads running recently where you see people are terrified of their fate. Cuts to services, NHS falling apart, Labour looking for ways to cut the disability benefits bill. There's no way most people can even remotely relate to Kate's situation. It's worlds away from a ' normal' person dealing with cancer.

It's not her fault of course that's she Royal dealing with a cancer diagnosis. But the complete inability to understand reality of life for most people is not endearing in the least.

I would love to see them all booted out,dethroned and we'll keep a few of the Royal properties for tourism purposes.

I am sorry to hear that. Two close friends and my mother have died of cancer.
But I do worry when all I see associated with the cancer word is a horrendous time, it is not automatically the case, and is a myth. A friend had cancer in his tonsils and lymph nodes. He had radiotherapy, said he had no side effects, and has been discharged from follow ups. A similar experience for another friend with cancer.
Cancer experiences vary widely. My mother died within a few weeks of diagnosis. Another friend had horrendous side effects and then died. But it depends so much on the type of cancer and the stage of the cancer.

@Tittat50 are you telling a poster with cancer how they should be feeling and don’t know what it is like for a normal person?

It's not her fault of course that's she Royal dealing with a cancer diagnosis. But the complete inability to understand reality of life for most people is not endearing in the least

This is it in a nutshell.

The statements KM has released - about the 'exceptional care' she's received and her 'amazing medical team' walking alongside her, amongst other gems - are downright fucking sickening.

It's SO tone deaf. The NHS is fucked. There are people dying on gurneys in corridors. People horrendously ill waiting 18 hours for a bloody ambulance. People DYING OF CANCER because systems and departments are so backed up, so disjointed that any window for possible successful treatment slips past until it's too late by the time a diagnosis is made.

It's great that she got the best care. Genuinely. Given her position it's expected she'd have had the best that money can buy - which she clearly did with her exceptional medical team walking by her side for her whole journey 🙄

What's not great is for someone in her position to be so simple minded, so blind and so entrenched in their own privilege that they bang on about their wonderful, supportive, top notch treatment and medical experts to the public - the public who mainly have to deal with whatever scraps the fucking broken NHS can throw their way when dealing with their own cancer diagnosis.

Fucking gahh. The world is broken and the Royals only add to that imo.

How do you really know? Do you?

Cancer? Boring ? Wow!

Yes they both said the only side effect of their radiotherapy was boredom during it.
Interestingly one said she got fed up because some people reacted very negatively to her saying her experience of cancer was fairly straightforward and treated her like her experience was invalid.

It's a bit eerie.
Like a WW1 Memorial.

Seriously. Do you think the intent in my post has anything to do with undermining the personal experience of the poster dealing with cancer.

On a RF thread about heroic princess Kate, is this what you believe to be the message. You know well it is not.

"she doesn't need to talk about her diagnosis and experiences"

The issue is that she wants to become the poster child for a disease by raising awareness, breaking down stigma, identifying funding and support gaps while refusing to share any of her experiences with this. "Look at me I've concorded the world" its ultimately not that supportive to the people she wants to help. As discussed on many threads she's not had the same social experience of cancer as the general population. She doesn't have to worry about paying the mortgage, transport to appointments, childcare etc etc.

So? She didn't say she had.

Wow this fairly bland photo has triggered a major overreaction!
It's just like how the mother's day photo started.

Almost like people were waiting for an excuse to stick the boot in.

It's hard to stick the boot into Catherine, even Harry had to fall back on not sharing lip gloss as some major crime.

She is publically fairly bland and popular in a low key way. She stands behind William and seems to have taken the more dutiful and low key members of the Royal family as her role models. Not a lot for those who are opposed to royalty to get their teeth into.

I find it interesting though that pretty much every celebrity is allowed to speak about their experience, social media is constantly banging on about living your truth, Harry and Meghan have made a living talking about their truth everywhere. But Catherine is criticised because she has posted an average photo by her child on World Cancer Day after having the temerity to keep details of her cancer private.

There is reaching and there is whatever this is.

I don't think she wanted to be a poster child at all. She wanted her private life to stay private but endless speculation meant she had to tell everyone. If she then ignored it and didn't mention cancer again people would complain that she wasn't trying to raise awareness.

She cannot win whatever she does.

I see associated with the cancer word is a horrendous time, it is not automatically the case, and is a myth.

For the majority of patients going through cancer treatment, they will have a horrendous time, nothing mythical about that.

oh and an abundance of dog whistling being displayed in this thread.

🙄

No different to people on MN posting a picture little Billy coloured in and asking "how old do you think the child who did this is?"

I keep reading she is the poster child for cancer, but I haven’t seen any evidence of this. If there is, it’s certainly not self imposed.

She’s posting a photo of herself enjoying nature, cancer free, with her child after a year of gruelling chemotherapy. It’s her account, she probably felt more comfortable posting a photo of herself than others (whom she would need permission from) or someone in the middle of gruelling treatment or someone terminal.

It’s her personal way of showing hope and she is entitled to it, seeing she is one of the lucky ones who has experienced and conquered cancer.

What do people want? Seeing her bald and hooked up to machines? Even then people would complain she is over sharing or go on about her privilege. I think she knows she can’t win and doesn’t give a fuck any more.

I wondered how long it would take certain sectors to pivot from “Why isn’t Kate doing anything to thank her medical team and draw attention to cancer??” to “Kate is positioning herself as a poster child for cancer and it’s too much!!”.

Turns out, it takes one visit to the Royal Marsden, a new patronage and a photo for World Cancer Day. Sounds about right.

This is one of the nastiest threads in a long time. Nearly deleted my account last night but would have to give up on The Archers thread too, not quite ready for that.

Agree. The mere word “cancer” is enough to terrify most people, even if the prognosis is good. The fact that some posters seem to know several who have just nonchalantly gone through treatment is far from the norm. It must take a horrendous toll mentally if not always physically. And I don’t think that whatever cancer was found in the case of the Princess was one that didn’t warrant concern if it was somewhere in the abdomen as seems to be the case

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