Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

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I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

Oh dear ! The shines truly off then , they are fair game for ridicule , I'm not sure there is any coming back .
I don't think Harry has the temperament to be able to handle being a joke .

Harry and Meghan mocked in front of the Netflix bosses at the Netflix new season

Do you enjoy people being mocked?

I don't. Whoever they are.

It's a news report from a Netflix show, the poster didn't state their opinion one way or another!

It seemed like glee at mocking to me

Bird tennis?

Where was this glee in @Atlasvue post ?
Do share it .

Id be happy to reply to your …unusual… take on my post but as you don’t like being mocked, I’ll leave it there

Well it didn't seem like that to me.

No need to read something in that isn't there!

Surely the point is that it’s self mocking, with reference to H & M?

Well it’s on the surface mocking himself but it’s also mocking Netflix suggesting that they are throwing money without due diligence at untested producers.

However Netflix aren’t going to be mad at him because making this joke meant that someone wrote a huge article in a mainstream newspaper about their new shows launch party. Free publicity.

Also good PR for the comedian - I’d never heard of him before this and now I know he’s got a show coming out.

And Meghan and Harry have no one to blame but themselves - they created the caricatures they have become with their words and actions over the last four years.

If they’d tried to do something uplifting, positive and thoughtful with the opportunities they were given and had still flopped then I would feel sorry for them.

But they’ve wasted opportunity after opportunity to complain, whine and make stuff up that just makes them look ridiculous.

Well it’s on the surface mocking himself but it’s also mocking Netflix suggesting that they are throwing money without due diligence at untested producers.

Agreed. Unless the poster is upset about Netflix being mocked I don’t see the problem.

The NF bosses are being mocked but the fact that they are being mocked for the H and M deal shows how negatively H and M are viewed in Hollywood.

Interesting to see Netflix didn't feel the need to postpone their live event in LA, 'due to the fires'.

I know, I wonder when the joyful insta posts are going to start up again

@wordler and others And Meghan and Harry have no one to blame but themselves - they created the caricatures they have become with their words and actions over the last four years.
If they’d tried to do something uplifting, positive and thoughtful with the opportunities they were given and had still flopped then I would feel sorry for them.
But they’ve wasted opportunity after opportunity to complain, whine and make stuff up that just makes them look ridiculous.

I do agree with this. If they did not get that their USP was Harry being a son of KC and Meghan married to him - well they should have . Now had they been talented and hugely likeable they could have done so much more but the way they come across to me doesn't say this. I think they and Netflix just saw $$$$$$ without checking out what else they had to offer of interest apart from RF stories. We shall see a ( possibly ) re edited Love Meghan - may be better but I think they did not care about appealing to people in the UK , not appealing to people in the US might come as a harder blow for them. This is all personal opinion , I don't know them & I do not live in the US.

It's the Flussex Capacitor

😂 Flussex Capacitor

There more mining to be done here:

capacitor

noun
1 a device used to store an electric charge, consisting of one or more pairs of conductorss separated by an insulatorr.

No mention of the Sussexes productions at the Netflix season launch . Ouch !

Is the problem a lack of insulation?

That's comedy for you 🤷‍♀️

Oh that's what it is! I thought it was a botox vein.

Thinh - common avian + old board game.

No, because John Mulaney is actually a bankable comedian who Netflix and he know will make them money. You can mock your skills as a riffing pianist invited to play with the Berlin Philharmonic in an impromptu night of popular music with no specific plan when you're Lang Lang. It wouldn't be the same coming from Grade 4 Piano me.

This is out and out laughing at H&M's poor Netflix output. They have pissed off a LOT of talented people who have worked hard for years to get recognition and anything like a shot at a Netflix show. To have taken the deal and then gone on to complain about being victims, so hard done by, constantly complain about their treatment at the hands of the press/their families/the RF, and show an utter lack of humility and loyalty and being utterly me-me-me: people are going to be lining up to take shots at them waaaaay worse than anything they experienced in the RF where they were protected from the harsh outside world. They dished it out, and are getting it handed right back at them by some very angry people. As they're finding out, no such thing as a free lunch.

To think they thought they deserved everything just for existing😐

@Onlyonekenobe great post

Mocking the rich and powerful is a millennia old activity, and it plays a vital part in societal cohesion.

Scholars such as O Taplin have argued that public mockery of the rich and famous acts as a pressure valve, enabling hoi polloi to release resentment at wealth inequalities without having to resort to violence. Jung - and evolutionary psychologists after him - have also argued this by pointing at how chimpanzees 'laugh' (they show their teeth and exhale in a HA HA HA mode - proto smiling & laughter) when they feeling are aggressive towards each other, and how this 'laughter' can release their aggression and thus avoid potentially fatal conflict. Scholars theorise that human laughter developed in the same way.

Thus we see that public mockery has always played a key role in democratic and proto-democratic societies. For example, in the 5 Century BC Aristophanes produced a play which savagely mocked Athens' foremost politician, Cleon - Cleon was in the theatre when the play debuted, allowing the peasants and farmers around him to have an extra good laugh at his expense (he sat there and took it). Mediaeval Kings always had their 'Fool', who, far from being a frippery, was there to poke fun at the King in the presence of his court - to thereby release resentment which could lead to usurpation, and even sometimes provide valid criticism of the King's policies (as Henry VIII's Fool did during the early days of the English Reformation. Henry couldn't handle it and replaced him. He was a tyrannical king.).

In the 18th century, the vibrant tradition of British satirical tabloids developed to mock politicians, and many leading academics have argued that this helps explain why Britain did not join many other countries in having a violent revolution (in France, for example, mockery of the royal family was strictly forbidden). I would argue that tabloids provide this function today and we would lose them at our peril.

TLDR: mocking the rich and powerful keeps us peaceful and sane. Plus, most normal, well-adjusted people enjoy it, because on a subconscious level we understand its social utility. People who claim not to enjoy it are either fibbing, or hold a poor understanding of the history and mass psychological conditions necessary for democracy.