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Atlasvue · 2025-01-17T17:38:15+00:00

Carrying on. Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

Baital · 20/01/2025 20:22

elprup · 20/01/2025 14:38

Which bit of the interview does this happen? I started watching but it’s 36 minutes long. I’ve not come across that interviewer before but I like his style so far.

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I haven't watched all of it - I gave up when he was critiquing the unaccountable elites, which was a bit weird given that he is one of them!

WeCantGoOverIt · 20/01/2025 20:25

Didn’t they both miss Archie’s first day at school because of the Colombia trip?

Ohpleeeease · 20/01/2025 20:29

IAmATorturedPoet · 20/01/2025 14:48

I didn’t realise there had even been an issue originally with that 2017 piece so reading about that and the Valentine Low reference was interesting.

I don’t think VF were out to write a revenge piece.

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Me neither. Tongue firmly in cheek when I posted the above.

IAmATorturedPoet · 20/01/2025 20:48

Ohpleeeease · 20/01/2025 20:29

Me neither. Tongue firmly in cheek when I posted the above.

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😂 I was never in doubt!

StartupRepair · 20/01/2025 21:08

I think one of Meghan's issues is that she doesn't understand the culture, discipline and expectations of the military world. It is completely threaded through the royal family culture and Meghan is clearly oblivious. This leads to jarring moments such as grinning at solemn occasions and playsuit marching.
If she has any sense she will go to Invictus wearing low key appropriate clothes, stay in the background being kind and supportive without performative hugging of random people or teenage clinging to Harry.

leftorrightnow · 20/01/2025 21:18

jeez this invictus business is so incredibly sad. I get the idea, it’s nice to want to support veterans but can we all just take a step back and realise that:

this is another way of glorifying war and armed combat and violence as solutions to conflicts

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones. Every single veteran chose to go to a war zone and now they come back and are surprised that actual combat took place and that they’re traumatised. Most of these people were adrenaline hungry men who thought war would be an adventure. Yes I do feel sorry for them but quite frankly there’s a ton of other people I’d rather give special attention to. Women who are victims of sexual violence in conflict, for example.

yes the military shit is woven trough the RF as someone said. Harry and Megan’s and all the other top brass are happy to stand there a wipe a tear away while the traumatised servicemen and women who were fooled to put themselves in the line of fire for their country limb around.

makes me sick.

IdaGlossop · 20/01/2025 21:24

StartupRepair · 20/01/2025 21:08

I think one of Meghan's issues is that she doesn't understand the culture, discipline and expectations of the military world. It is completely threaded through the royal family culture and Meghan is clearly oblivious. This leads to jarring moments such as grinning at solemn occasions and playsuit marching.
If she has any sense she will go to Invictus wearing low key appropriate clothes, stay in the background being kind and supportive without performative hugging of random people or teenage clinging to Harry.

A big but: she has no sense.

I think she is so self-obsessed that she has no ability or willingness to adapt herself to the culture and customs of anyone else, believing that she is the central character on every stage on which she find herself.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/01/2025 21:32

Atlasvue · 20/01/2025 19:29

I still can’t get my head round how the hell she explains to Harry, her shopping a divorce book isn’t true or if it is true, doesn’t mean anything.

For a man that’s so paranoid, he believes his wife was fed to the wolves by the RF for their own PR, that his mother was murdered l, the press are out to get him etc. How could he just brush this one off?

A seed will be planted.

I could well believe she makes it out, that this was her team and nothing to do with her. But then his suspicions will grow around those she keeps around her.

That's precisely why I said god knows what it'll do to Harry's mind, Atlasvue

It doesn't even have to be true (and may well not be), but that seed you mentioned will find fertile soil in his clearly very disturbed mind

ProjectFailed · 20/01/2025 21:42

Atlasvue · 20/01/2025 19:29

I still can’t get my head round how the hell she explains to Harry, her shopping a divorce book isn’t true or if it is true, doesn’t mean anything.

For a man that’s so paranoid, he believes his wife was fed to the wolves by the RF for their own PR, that his mother was murdered l, the press are out to get him etc. How could he just brush this one off?

A seed will be planted.

I could well believe she makes it out, that this was her team and nothing to do with her. But then his suspicions will grow around those she keeps around her.

I could well believe she makes it out, that this was her team and nothing to do with her.

Same as she did with the 2017 VF interview - blamed the actual words that came of her own mouth on the Sunshine Sachs rep.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 20/01/2025 21:47

One thing that might explain the divorce book is looking at what Andrew and Fergie did, which was essentially a divorce in name only, in order that she could be released from royal protocols/obligations in order to make money for them both and their children.

MummyJ12 · 20/01/2025 21:47

Not sure if anyone has seen this already. It just goes to show that she was a little bossy boots and had Royal ambitions from an early age. Even being so little, she took over the party wearing a crown and insisting everyone calls her “your Highness” 😂 It wasn’t even her birthday, it was someone else’s!

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1655676/Video-8-year-old-Meghan-Markle-plays-Queen-garden-play.html

Original poster

Atlasvue · 20/01/2025 21:53

MummyJ12 · 20/01/2025 21:47

Not sure if anyone has seen this already. It just goes to show that she was a little bossy boots and had Royal ambitions from an early age. Even being so little, she took over the party wearing a crown and insisting everyone calls her “your Highness” 😂 It wasn’t even her birthday, it was someone else’s!

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1655676/Video-8-year-old-Meghan-Markle-plays-Queen-garden-play.html

Never seen that before! Explains everything

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 20/01/2025 22:06

leftorrightnow · 20/01/2025 21:18

jeez this invictus business is so incredibly sad. I get the idea, it’s nice to want to support veterans but can we all just take a step back and realise that:

this is another way of glorifying war and armed combat and violence as solutions to conflicts

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones. Every single veteran chose to go to a war zone and now they come back and are surprised that actual combat took place and that they’re traumatised. Most of these people were adrenaline hungry men who thought war would be an adventure. Yes I do feel sorry for them but quite frankly there’s a ton of other people I’d rather give special attention to. Women who are victims of sexual violence in conflict, for example.

yes the military shit is woven trough the RF as someone said. Harry and Megan’s and all the other top brass are happy to stand there a wipe a tear away while the traumatised servicemen and women who were fooled to put themselves in the line of fire for their country limb around.

makes me sick.

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Wasn't there talk of her giving him an ultimatum when he was reluctant to go public, that she would break up with him if he didn't?

I don't know how that happened but I just wanted to say how you are spectacularly missing the point.

smilesy · 20/01/2025 22:19

leftorrightnow · 20/01/2025 21:18

jeez this invictus business is so incredibly sad. I get the idea, it’s nice to want to support veterans but can we all just take a step back and realise that:

this is another way of glorifying war and armed combat and violence as solutions to conflicts

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones. Every single veteran chose to go to a war zone and now they come back and are surprised that actual combat took place and that they’re traumatised. Most of these people were adrenaline hungry men who thought war would be an adventure. Yes I do feel sorry for them but quite frankly there’s a ton of other people I’d rather give special attention to. Women who are victims of sexual violence in conflict, for example.

yes the military shit is woven trough the RF as someone said. Harry and Megan’s and all the other top brass are happy to stand there a wipe a tear away while the traumatised servicemen and women who were fooled to put themselves in the line of fire for their country limb around.

makes me sick.

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As someone with a close family member in the military, can I just say how offensive I find this. Chosing to go to a war zone and put themselves in danger to try to protect a population in a conflict zone for example does not mean that they are not fully aware of what might happen, nor does it mean that they don’t deserve sympathy. It’s not a competition between them and other victims

WeCantGoOverIt · 20/01/2025 22:24

It is a lovely idea that we could exist in a world without an army but totally unrealistic. I am very grateful that young men are prepared to risk everything to protect us.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 20/01/2025 22:55

leftorrightnow · 20/01/2025 21:18

jeez this invictus business is so incredibly sad. I get the idea, it’s nice to want to support veterans but can we all just take a step back and realise that:

this is another way of glorifying war and armed combat and violence as solutions to conflicts

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones. Every single veteran chose to go to a war zone and now they come back and are surprised that actual combat took place and that they’re traumatised. Most of these people were adrenaline hungry men who thought war would be an adventure. Yes I do feel sorry for them but quite frankly there’s a ton of other people I’d rather give special attention to. Women who are victims of sexual violence in conflict, for example.

yes the military shit is woven trough the RF as someone said. Harry and Megan’s and all the other top brass are happy to stand there a wipe a tear away while the traumatised servicemen and women who were fooled to put themselves in the line of fire for their country limb around.

makes me sick.

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Yet we all benefit from this and live freely because of this sacrifice. I am horrified by your post as someone that is anti war, anti violence. If we didn’t have an army we don’t know where we would be politically and in terms of security. Probably vulnerable and invaded and without allies.

Onlyonekenobe · 20/01/2025 22:58

I think there is a lot of effort on this thread to discuss Meghan Markle as though she’s a woman of substance. She’s not. She’s an ex-soap actress who, until she fluked a meeting with Harry, aspired to marry a football player and was an Instagram influencer. She wasn’t, and still isn’t, a serious person. She hasn’t acquired seriousness or substance by marrying Harry, either. Nothing has changed. She’s exactly as she was portrayed in South Park. There’s nothing more or less to her than that.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 20/01/2025 23:09

IcedPurple · 20/01/2025 14:22

Totally agree. Netflix don't care if Harry is a figure of ridicule or not, he brings in the publicity and that is all that they will care about.

I disagree. NF makes its money from subscriptions. Harry's non-royal productions have all flopped, so he does not bring in subscriptions. Nobody is going to sign up for NF because the exiled 5th in line to the British throne has a contract with them. They will sign up because NF have programming they want to watch. Harry's productions don't fall into that category.

I'd be amazed if their contract is renewed, even if the 'lifestyle' show gets good viewing figures.

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Surely Netflix have top lawyers and advisors. Did NF really just cross their fingers, throw millions at Harry & Meghan and hope that two amateurs protective of their image & privacy (in theory) would produce top content ?

Secondly Netflix has been mentioned a billion times accross all platforms because of this association and in the headlines of so many stories. Even when the flop of the polo show was diedussed it was still spoken of with their name and the brand mentioned. They’ve been trusted by royals & the first royals with a lot to lose/ high profiles that have gone into Media. It’s a big endorsement.

Where I think they’ve stuffed up is on the PR for with love Meghan. They should have gone head and added a bit about the fires and that at the time of airing this was occuring. Also that they would be donating funds from their to the fires & using the show to help get impacted businesses back on their feet. Added a ‘support fires’ at end of each show &
a link to local suppliers and designers & charities. Meghan’s head popping up to say that this was filmed in happier times for California but the current devastation was at the forefront of their minds and efforts - that they hoped the series shone a light on the talent, produce and design that the local area offered as they rebuilt and healed.

IdaGlossop · 20/01/2025 23:14

Onlyonekenobe · 20/01/2025 22:58

I think there is a lot of effort on this thread to discuss Meghan Markle as though she’s a woman of substance. She’s not. She’s an ex-soap actress who, until she fluked a meeting with Harry, aspired to marry a football player and was an Instagram influencer. She wasn’t, and still isn’t, a serious person. She hasn’t acquired seriousness or substance by marrying Harry, either. Nothing has changed. She’s exactly as she was portrayed in South Park. There’s nothing more or less to her than that.

Meghan's way of speaking betrays her, showing her as someone who is intellectually shallow and without a grip on the heavy-weight issues she would have us believe she espouses. No matter where she finds herself - at a school, a sporting event, an awards ceremony, a lunch with women from the global majority - she draws on the same lexicon. Listen, and you can tick off the buzz words and phrases one by one: community; lens; women have a voice, they need to use it; as a mom; I see myself in you. Snore.

CaraCameleon · 20/01/2025 23:17

StartupRepair · 20/01/2025 21:08

I think one of Meghan's issues is that she doesn't understand the culture, discipline and expectations of the military world. It is completely threaded through the royal family culture and Meghan is clearly oblivious. This leads to jarring moments such as grinning at solemn occasions and playsuit marching.
If she has any sense she will go to Invictus wearing low key appropriate clothes, stay in the background being kind and supportive without performative hugging of random people or teenage clinging to Harry.

People keep saying how bright she is but I see no evidence at all of this. She really seems quite stupid in general. Perhaps the two of them are better matched intellectually than most assume.

CaraCameleon · 20/01/2025 23:29

IdaGlossop · 20/01/2025 23:14

Meghan's way of speaking betrays her, showing her as someone who is intellectually shallow and without a grip on the heavy-weight issues she would have us believe she espouses. No matter where she finds herself - at a school, a sporting event, an awards ceremony, a lunch with women from the global majority - she draws on the same lexicon. Listen, and you can tick off the buzz words and phrases one by one: community; lens; women have a voice, they need to use it; as a mom; I see myself in you. Snore.

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Exactly.

itsstillmehere · 21/01/2025 00:19

leftorrightnow · 20/01/2025 21:18

jeez this invictus business is so incredibly sad. I get the idea, it’s nice to want to support veterans but can we all just take a step back and realise that:

this is another way of glorifying war and armed combat and violence as solutions to conflicts

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones. Every single veteran chose to go to a war zone and now they come back and are surprised that actual combat took place and that they’re traumatised. Most of these people were adrenaline hungry men who thought war would be an adventure. Yes I do feel sorry for them but quite frankly there’s a ton of other people I’d rather give special attention to. Women who are victims of sexual violence in conflict, for example.

yes the military shit is woven trough the RF as someone said. Harry and Megan’s and all the other top brass are happy to stand there a wipe a tear away while the traumatised servicemen and women who were fooled to put themselves in the line of fire for their country limb around.

makes me sick.

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Your post as well as disgusting doesn't even make sense.
In one paragraph you say they are duped into going yet in the previous you say they are war hungry blah blah.
Shame on you.

Thebellofstclements · 21/01/2025 03:42

VictorianScreenTime · 20/01/2025 12:16

I look at Chelsy Davy’s life and think that’s exactly what Harry should have done. Imagine how different things could have been if he’d joined her back when she decided the life of a royal wasn’t for her.

Largely away from the spotlight, house in London and one in Cape Town, quietly getting on with her business and seeming happily married with two kids, spending time in Africa. She seems to be living the life he said he wanted when he first “stepped back”. She’d have to be a saint not to feel a bit of schadenfraude!

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I doubt there's schadenfreude on Chelsy Davy's side, by all accounts their split was sad but amicable and they remained friends.
I wonder if the friendship has been maintained...

FromTheOfficeOfTheCrowPeople · 21/01/2025 03:43

that ALL of the participating countries have either professional armies or armies where only volunteers (never conscripts) go to war zones

This is untrue of Israel. Its IDF has been part of Invictus for a few years now, and Israel has conscription. Such conscripts are not specifically kept out of high conflict zones such as the border areas and occupied territories.

I do wonder if there will be pushback on the presence of Israel at the Invictus games in Canada and Birmingham, and how H&M will respond to that.

elessar · 21/01/2025 06:08

@Thebellofstclements given how jealous Meghan appears to be of Kate (who Harry had a great relationship previously), I cannot imagine any world in which she would tolerate him having a friendly relationship with an ex, particularly 'the one who got away'