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Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

Well I’m not sure how powerful these executive powers of his are, but you never know. Trump doesn’t tend to follow the rules.

Really interesting. The more that you read the more you can't help thinking that rather than being thrown to the wolves as H dramatically claimed, they were actually protected by BP to try and stop their real petulance being revealed for all to see.

Those pictures were excruciating. How could either of them fail to feel mortified?

I think Harry encourages this kind of thing, possibly insists on it. He wants her to be front and centre. Just Like Kate.

You're probably right there, but surely even he didn't revel at the sight of her marching at the front of all the veterans in that playsuit.

She reminded me of my DD when she was a toddler.. elbows out, barging in front, full of herself as only a 3 year old can be, 'I go first! Look at me, I'm winning!'

Really quite endearing when it's your own 3 year old, toe curling to see a woman in her late thirties behaving in the same way and with no more self awareness than a 3 year old.

I believe she was 42 when she was marching in front of veterans in her romper suit.

It will be interesting to see if she's there at all, given the separation of their interests recently and the fact that they've barely been seen together in months.

Thanks for the shout-out BigAnne but I can’t take the credit for posting the summary, I believe it was @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger 😊

Analysis from Newsweek. Oooooh it’s soooo good.

https://archive.ph/W7wD2

’Meghan Markle's Team Clapback to The Hollywood Reporter
Meghan and Harry have of course been here before after The Hollywood Reporter quoted a source saying Meghan was like "a dictator in high heels."
The account was notable because the allegations did not come from the British tabloids and related to the Sussexes U.S. operation, not their time at the palace.
That posed a problem for them, namely that they could not simply dismiss the story as a hit piece by the monarchy or members of Harry's family who they had fallen out with.
Instead, they fought back in the pages of a different publication, with then-Archewell press secretary Ashley Hansen leading the charge.
She told Us Weekly: "When I told them [about needing major surgery], I was met with the kind of concern and care a parent would express if it were their own child."
"Two things can be equally true: you can be a great leader and still have turnover. No boss or company is immune to that," she added.
Hansen announced less than a month later that she was leaving her post and Meghan issued a glowing endorsement while the pair suggested they would continue working together in future.

Analysis
Meghan should now know a PR comeback similar to the one staged in the pages of Us Weekly will not solve this problem for her.
The simple existence of the latest report in Vanity Fair is evidence the strategy failed last time around.
Meghan therefore has two plausible options ahead of her, one of which is to try to simply ignore it and hope she still has enough support to make a success of her commercial projects such as her Netflix cooking show With Love, Meghan.
The other option, though, is to look for an opportunity to acknowledge the negative experiences of the staff who have worked for her on both sides of the Atlantic without dismissing them.

The Sussex position has historically been diametrically opposed to the staff who criticize her, with Harry insisting Meghan spread nothing but sweetness and light through the corridors of Kensington Palace.
In his book, Spare, he acknowledged that "more than once a staff member slumped across their desk and wept" but when Prince William blamed Meghan, Harry replied that his brother "was out of line."
"Meg managed to remain calm," he continued. "Despite what certain people were saying about her, I never heard her speak a bad word about anybody, or to anybody."
Outside observers have therefore been left to choose between two radically different narratives, that Meghan is either an angel or a demon.
The former held more water when the allegations were confined to the palace and Harry's family or the British media, all the villains of their own narrative.
However, now the scandal has spread out of Britain to U.S. staff and American publications, the pro-Meghan narrative no longer contains a baked in explanation for the existence of the anti-Meghan perspective.
And with each new chapter it appears increasingly unlikely that the former is the full and only accurate story, meaning it may be time for Meghan to pivot and offer a third option—that she is a flawed but well-meaning person who is capable of changing.
Even if she cannot bring herself to issue a full apology or mea culpa, she could look for an opportunity, perhaps in passing during an interview or TV appearance, to reference the fact some people have found her a tough boss but to say she is actively trying to be better.’

Bet they'll both be there, it's a photo op afterall and there'll be lots of applause, no one rightly would boo at such good cause. It's their only safe space left.

Rictus grins insitu constant handholding and back rubbing. 25 outfit changes a day and lots rousing 'the vets don't let their experiences define them!' speeches seemingly oblivious to the fact that their very own victim narrative is at odds with everything Invictus.

I just looked up video footage of this. I had assumed people were using the word “marching” loosely, as in “march right back upstairs and clean your room!l”, but she’s actually marching with veterans? Leading them, no less.

WTF?

Re the marching, when you see her do it on a different occasion, I think it shows more that she’s at a loss and uncomfortable without explicit direction – she succeeded at acting because she was in “stand here, do this” roles, but didn’t excel because she can’t go beyond that. Without instruction, she flails – I don’t think it’s arrogance or spite, just awkward af. See this random marching: x.com/miajlt/status/1702061440847188320?s=61&t=iYTFhigIaLxuQyc0QuUj4g

I have a suspicion that Invictus was instrumental in the separation of tasks. Invictus is rife of rumours of expenses, using it as a fashion show (i have sympathy with this as it is an area of she can't do right for wrong) and centering invictus around them. The marching was horrific as ex military the spouses taking the seniority of their partner is a no no. So I don't think she will be there.

Harry's the living embodiment of Persecution & Ego-centred, Narcissistic Id-fracture Syndrome.

He's a dick, you mean?!

A post-divorce book from this grifter would be hard-hitting. She will have intel from pre-2020. Harry was a senior adult royal and although he certainly would not have been party to everything he’d have known a fair bit of private information about his relatives and people close to them.

And he was so obsessed and trusting with MM he would have told her everything she wanted to know and she would’ve been absorbing it, ready to be used in future if required. She is opportunistic and intelligent.

She will know some facts that are in the public interest as well as some goss that is of interest to the public. She may have stuff about the Spencers, or the Middletons. She may even have some knowledge about Philip’s will. Who knows.

If she hasn’t signed a NDA there is nothing preventing her from accepting a hefty fee from a publisher.

And she can dish dirt on the Royals without denigrating Harry and upsetting their children.

Adding her own observations and anecdotes on top of that.

Folk would buy that book.

I think she should show up for the Invictus closing ceremony to support Harry, it would be a bad look if she didn't show up at all , but an ever worse look if she shows up and does a repeat of the previous Invictus games.

She should forgo the dressing up part and wear Invictus merch , I don't know if they have a gala event afterwards, but if they do, thats when she could take out the fine robes, otherwise forget the inappropriate wardrobe..

It was all so tasteless how she used it for a fashion spread and to take center stage herself.

😂😂

She will know some facts that are in the public interest as well as some goss that is of interest to the public.

Would she though?

She was only in the royal family for about 5 minutes, and I doubt anyone other than Harry trusted her as far as they could throw her. If the book is her simply retelling stuff that Harry told her, then it's not really a first hand insight into royal life, which is what 'Spare' was and why it was such a huge seller. And neither of them has much credibility, so everything she wrote would be questioned.

She is opportunistic and intelligent.

Opportunistic, maybe. But she has given very little evidence of any great intelligence.

Folk would buy that book.

They might, but in nowhere near the numbers they bought 'Spare'.

What would be a big bestseller would be a post divorce book where she turned her sights on Harry. I doubt she has much left to say about her brief period as a royal.

I think Harry will be shitting himself too much to bail.
He's obviously seen her turn on those she perceives as doing her wrong, not fulfilling their brief or not sharing glowing reports of her extraordinary achievements and all round fabulousness. He therefore knows what would be coming his way if he ever dared to admit to the slightest whiff of dissent in the Sussex household.
He's alienated his support network, friends, family and a huge chunk of the British population.
All his eggs are in one basket, underneath the lemons and jars of jam.

I hope she does go to the Invictus Games.

But if she marches round like a fashion parade again, she'll be sunk. But she could go in the role of supportive other half (like she did in Canada just before their engagement). She got across-the-board approbation then. There's been so much flowing under the bridge since then that it would be hard to replicate that completely. But it would be a step in the right direction

I say "right direction" but I'm not sure what direction she actually wants to go in - perhaps this approach would be anathema. But it would have the advantage of showing them together, but it being professionally all Harry's.

I still can’t get my head round how the hell she explains to Harry, her shopping a divorce book isn’t true or if it is true, doesn’t mean anything.

For a man that’s so paranoid, he believes his wife was fed to the wolves by the RF for their own PR, that his mother was murdered l, the press are out to get him etc. How could he just brush this one off?

A seed will be planted.

I could well believe she makes it out, that this was her team and nothing to do with her. But then his suspicions will grow around those she keeps around her.

But she didn't have to be there at Dusseldorf. She could have sat and watched, rather than be in a situation where she's 'at a loss' and 'uncomfortable'. And IMHO it eas the height of arrogance for her to insert herself in the way that she did.

I agree! Why doesn't she just sit in the crowd and clap? That's what I'd do. Show support, but don't push yourself forward inappropriately. But then, I'm not a narcissist!

Yes, and she flew to another continent, leaving two children under the age of 5 without either of their parents. Didn't she give some weird 'speech' about how she missed the first few days because she was taking the kids for ice cream or something like that? As if there was any reason for her to be there at all.

I wonder if they'll bring the children to the next games. It's only a relatively short distance from California and they're now old enough to enjoy some of the family friendly events they have at the IG. But I bet they'll travel without them as usual.