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Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

411 seats out of 650 is a landslide. 🙄

Indeed it is. The UK system creates substantial majorities in Parliament where they don't exist in the vote. Sometimes it creates landslides, as it did in 2024. A better argument would be that it wasn't representative.

That said, I think a better way to describe recent election results generally is against incumbents. Left wing ones and right wing ones both doing badly.

Yes, until you look at how marginally some of those seats were won. So very close as to be extremely disquieting and unlikely to maintain at the next election given how despised Starmer’s government is now. We are in for Reform, there’s no denying it and I don’t know how we turn it around. All faith in the two main parties has totally and understandably disintegrated.

No, those things don't make it not a landslide victory.

What you're saying is that you don't think it'll be repeated at the next GE. You're likely right, although I don't see Reform managing to keep their shit together either. But it's quite conceivable we've entered an era of one off landslides. 2019 was pretty much that as well, there's not much functional difference between an 80 and 180 majority. And we all saw how that ended.

No, those things don't make it not a landslide victory.

We have to agree to disagree on this I am afraid. When a MOP holding a prime position within government only manages to win his seat by 500 votes that is precarious to the point of collapse, it is not the firm, unquestionable victory which the term “landslide” implies. They are the majority, yes but they are wobbly seats that will be lost at the very next opportunity there is to vote. As for Reform, so many MNetters bitch about Farage and pretend he’s stupid. He’s not, he’s very clever in what he says and who he is appealing to, he’s working hard to build votes in the Muslim/other ethnic communities just like Trump did in the US & it’s working. People may not want it to be true so they pretend he’s no more than a washed up stupid, racist politician. When he and Reform get in they’ll all be horrified just like they were with Brexit & Trump’s first term, but it’s coming.

Yes I think this too. Didnt H say he has no memories of his Mum. He would be jealous of W for having some/more memories

Anyway this is a thread about H&M and I feel like it’s swinging wildly off topic so will leave this particular discussion there 😊

“So what if Meghan is a bully, employees are free to quit if they are not happy” (paraphrasing here a bit)

Now I feel like I’ve heard everything 🤪 Honestly, desperation is real. Who cares if you’re a target of a bully, it must be your own fault!! As long as no one says anything mean about Meghan. Mental gymnastics are well.. mental!

Again, no. It's absolutely a firm and unquestionable victory. There are no questions over Labour having won that election. They very definitely did, and if you think not, go and count the MPs. That is how we measure winners of GEs in this country.

What you're doing is saying you don't think it's sustainable. An important point, but a very different one. Landslides don't need to be. Indeed, it's a characteristic of the UK political system that a landslide victory will include seats that the winning party don't typically get, have small majorities and don't then go on to hold in the long run. It also usually includes winning most or all the typical weathervane seats. Look at how many seats from the Labour 97 and 01 landslides were then lost shortly after, for example. That's FPTP for you.

I don't think it was a good point in that the main trend at the moment is incumbent governments mostly losing, and the UK clearly did that. But part of the reason I disagree with the original point is because Labour did, in fact, win an indisputable landslide.

Saw some images of Prince William in the pub with some football supporters. He is SO LIKE his Mum.

I get that threads meander, but a detailed discussion of last summer's election is pushing it a bit.

Isn't there a politics board for that sort of thing?

I missed the most recent post from Adamante when I wrote mine, but it looks like we're now leaving the GE discussion there anyway?

The narnia reference is great, he's a total Edmund.

Good gracious, there's bound to have been much seething in the McMansion all weekend. Spitting out stroppy word salads like a machine gun, poor staff all scuttling like the beetles she sees them as.
Meanwhile the todgers likely made himself scarce and is skulking/sulking in a far flung wing of the house and wondering where it all went wrong.

I do find them psychologically fascinating. And though I love to chortle at them, it is genuinely sad too. They are both damaged. Rich and privileged beyond the wildest dreams of the vast majority of the planet, healthy, children etc. But the whole way along it's never been even close to what they feel they are due, not even halfway there. It's astonishing.

I wish there were more studies into younger brother syndrome, and if its even a thing. I feel like I know so many adult men who are the younger of the brothers and have a major chip on their shoulder about it.

I think they won't. They never comment directly on individual pieces of coverage. My wager is they are talking with their PR team on a) the pros and cons of commenting and b) who should be selected to comment anonymously if they do decide for pros. The VF article is different to others in ways which make is difficult to comment. It's really well researched, with each negative point having at least two commentators from different sources attached to it. It's quite considered as it doesn't merely slam them. Instead, it seeks to get behind why things are as they are. They were invited to contribute to the article but didn't so they would look a bit silly to say something now. What would they say? All the important sources are included in the article. If they comment tomorrow, it will get lost because of the inauguration of Trump. By Tuesday, VF will already feel like yesterday's news.

Their PR team should be urging silence but we know they ignore advice.

I wouldn't comment on it if I were them. Just be the Streisand effect if they do.

Well I never thought I’d see a royal prince in a ‘Spoons, mingling with football fans. Fair play to him 🤣

Imagine all the countless frothing pow wows and tense emergency talks they've had over their years together, its such a waste of their unbelievable good fortune in life. They could've had their pick of any number of blissful, idyllic, incredible lifestyles. But they've chosen the undignified shambles that is their life. I'd have spent the last 5 years on a private Scottish island or some incredible remote ranch in Montana. Giving plenty to charity, inviting friends and family to visit, visiting friends and family occasionally and having the best time with my husband and children. Poor old buggers, goodness knows where and how it will all end for them.

I always think it must be such hard work for them taking offence at everything 😆

if you are so minded, thats a full time job.

At this point I am seriously concerned for Harry mental health. He is not prepared for the harsh realities of life because he has been cushioned all his life by the BRF. And the chickens are going to come home to roost.

The reality is that they have failed completely. There is no way they can support their current standard of living after the Netflix contract expires. His war on William has failed too. He is bound to a crash landing in reality and I do not see him having the resilience to pull through.

Haha! Couldn’t have put it better myself.

He's CHIMPO of a mental health MLM scheme org. If the physician can't heal himself, then he needs to stop holding himself out as an expert and reeling in the gullible.

You are 100% right and I hope his case helps to dispell some of the quackery around mental health that is spreading nowadays.

He is a tool and his behaviour is apprehensible, but I cannot help feeling that this is going to end badly for him, and soon.

Their life seems so dull and tedious too. Every choice they've made since the beginning of their relationship is just so baffling. They should be so enviable and yet they aren't, at all.

Their PR team should be urging silence but we know they ignore advice.

They cant really lie low though as they have Invictus in a couple of weeks and PH court case starts on Tues (with him due in court in the coming weeks).