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Atlasvue · 17/01/2025 17:38

Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

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WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 11:41

But Andrew…

stillavid · 18/01/2025 11:46

Interesting about the money in the article, ie, they didn't get as much as was speculated.

I do think they must be v stressed regarding money as their lifestyle is £££. Goodness knows how much alone their security bill is and unless they can start making £££ then how do they continue to live as they do?

That's when they get dangerous really for the RF as what will they need to reveal next in order to rake in the cash. Although going after Catherine again whilst she is recovering from cancer wouldn't be a great look.

JSMill · 18/01/2025 12:05

According to the article, H has struggled to make friends. I do feel sorry for him because my dh did struggle to find some male friends when we first moved to the UK. However he has a large, tight knit group of friends in his home country. He is in frequent communication with him and friends from home quite often come to London so he meets up them. Unfortunately for H, I believe he has lost touch with a number of his friends partially after marrying M and partially because some friends picked a side after Megxit and Spare.

Atlasvue · 18/01/2025 12:05

I wonder if, now that so many have talked about her bullying behaviour, someone will be prepared to go on record.

We also now know, that people are willing to step forward to the press if they have been mistreated. Will there be more that comes out? From their domestic staff, from those that worked on the tv show?

When the HR article came out, it did feel like there was something going on the background and there was more to come. Now we have the VF article. I don’t think this will stop. I feel at some point, a group will be brave enough to be able to speak publicly. I would think they would most likely be American staff.

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Atlasvue · 18/01/2025 12:06

Or even take them to an employment tribunal/sue in court because how she treated staff.

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LaMarschallin · 18/01/2025 12:15

stillavid

Although going after Catherine again whilst she is recovering from cancer wouldn't be a great look.

It isn't, is it?
So far, afaics, only one poster here has tried it. They've been asked repeatedly what they meant by their strange post but appear to have flown or waded away.

ChimneyRock · 18/01/2025 12:17

I'm another one who is surprised to find myself feeling a bit sad about this. Despite what avid Sussex supporters have always levelled at those of us who've had reservations and criticisms about their behaviour, I take no pleasure in seeing these articles.
I hope they don't divorce - because whilst I reckon Meghan would be OK if they did, I would genuinely fear for Harry's mental health.
I REALLY wish he'd drop these legal cases too - the optics of those are not doing him any favours.

Janiie · 18/01/2025 12:18

It was all so totally predictable. It wasn't ever the 'uk media' it was their behaviour and demands causing all the problems.

God only knows how this will play out but weak, deluded Harry will not cope now that he can't just blame the UK. He will implode at some point and no doubt that is why William hasn't ever retaliated as he knows he'll need to pick up the pieces

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:22

no doubt that is why William hasn't ever retaliated

Spare was an excellent example of why the RF policy of ‘no comment’ is the best response.

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:23

It is not just security that is eating up his millions. Harry’s court cases will be munching through them quickly too. His lawyers must be delighted.

HomeAlonely · 18/01/2025 12:24

I have a question!

My own opinion, rightly or wrongly, is that Meghan is a fairly unpleasant character. Having said that, I know that things aren't generally black and white, and she presumably does have some redeeming traits.

But what is it about her that inspires such extreme devotion and fandom from the likes of the Sussex Squad? I genuinely don't understand how, in the light of some of her behaviours, they can't at least accept that sometimes she does get it wrong, and that, like all of us, she's not perfect.

There seem to be people who will defend her to the hilt no matter what. I read these threads sometimes just to see how her supporters will spin some of her behaviour which, to many, seems indefensible. What do they see in her that I can't?!

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:29

Atlasvue · 18/01/2025 09:08

This is why it’s unsustainable, the way he’s living.

No family, no friends, no familiar surroundings, no British culture (pubs etc), constant court cases, living in probably the most vacuous place on earth (albeit very beautiful), much harsher press than they ever received as Royals, his wife has been accused of being a bully MULTIPLE times, now we hear there is a divorce book.

He was already extremely paranoid, and known to use drugs. How can he be happy when things are much much worse than they were before.

We even hear through VF that it wasn’t a $100 million contract. You could have argued that, well it’s worth it for all the money, but that seems to not be the case. Whatever they do have, is being swallowed up by security costs and a lifestyle they can’t afford. So on top of everything else….money worries.

The only way out of this, is to retreat and stay out of the limelight, move to a cheaper and less fake place, try and integrate, realise there’s no hope reconciliation with his family, drop the court cases. Live a quiet life with his family. But I don’t think that will happen. I think they will divorce at some point in the next 10 years. I’m actually surprised they lasted this long.

No family, no friends, no familiar surroundings, no British culture (pubs etc)

He has family, his kids and his wife, his mother in law that's family. Regardless of whether his family include his. He also has friends we have all heard about some of his friend in polo world etc. Let's just stick to facts instead of making stuff up.

No British culture? He moved to another country of course you would not expect British culture. And? How is that unsustainable? I don't know anyone who has left the UK and found it unsustainable because where they went didn't have British culture lol most people leave because they want a different culture, way of life.

The only way out of this, is to retreat and stay out of the limelight, move to a cheaper and less fake place

And when last year there was nothing being reported abojt them for 3 months ish someone started a thread wondering where they were and some posters who don't like them on here was commenting on it too speculating. So it doesn't matter if they live quietly or not, on this board some you will still talk about them.

And why do they need to move to a cheap place? It's bene years of people on saying they are running out do money its not sustainable yet here they are still living in that house and clearly still have money to afford to live where they do.

Why are you that bothered that you feel the need to be saying they need to go live in a cheap place? They need to just stop doing this or that?

Also you write now we hear there is a divorce book...again why are you making stuff up. There is no divorce book. There is according to sources a conversation about one doesn't make it fact that there is one.

EdithWeston · 18/01/2025 12:36

Also you write now we hear there is a divorce book...again why are you making stuff up. There is no divorce book. There is according to sources a conversation about one doesn't make it fact that there is one

I think you must have misread the article - which states plainly that there is no such book.

The allegation is not that there is a book. Rather that Meghan's team were researching the value of a book of that type.

No explanation has been offered about why her team did this. And comments on this thread have been mainly sympathetic towards Harry if this was the first he knew of the discussions.

Atlasvue · 18/01/2025 12:37

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:29

No family, no friends, no familiar surroundings, no British culture (pubs etc)

He has family, his kids and his wife, his mother in law that's family. Regardless of whether his family include his. He also has friends we have all heard about some of his friend in polo world etc. Let's just stick to facts instead of making stuff up.

No British culture? He moved to another country of course you would not expect British culture. And? How is that unsustainable? I don't know anyone who has left the UK and found it unsustainable because where they went didn't have British culture lol most people leave because they want a different culture, way of life.

The only way out of this, is to retreat and stay out of the limelight, move to a cheaper and less fake place

And when last year there was nothing being reported abojt them for 3 months ish someone started a thread wondering where they were and some posters who don't like them on here was commenting on it too speculating. So it doesn't matter if they live quietly or not, on this board some you will still talk about them.

And why do they need to move to a cheap place? It's bene years of people on saying they are running out do money its not sustainable yet here they are still living in that house and clearly still have money to afford to live where they do.

Why are you that bothered that you feel the need to be saying they need to go live in a cheap place? They need to just stop doing this or that?

Also you write now we hear there is a divorce book...again why are you making stuff up. There is no divorce book. There is according to sources a conversation about one doesn't make it fact that there is one.

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Sure Jan

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Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:38

EdithWeston · 18/01/2025 12:36

Also you write now we hear there is a divorce book...again why are you making stuff up. There is no divorce book. There is according to sources a conversation about one doesn't make it fact that there is one

I think you must have misread the article - which states plainly that there is no such book.

The allegation is not that there is a book. Rather that Meghan's team were researching the value of a book of that type.

No explanation has been offered about why her team did this. And comments on this thread have been mainly sympathetic towards Harry if this was the first he knew of the discussions.

I didn't misread it @Atlasvue did that who I was responding to and they in their post are saying it like there is one. I was commenting back that it's not true there isn't a book and to stop making it up.

Think you cross wired on who said what

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:38

It's bene years of people on saying they are running out do money its not sustainable yet here they are still living in that house and clearly still have money to afford to live where they do.

I don’t think many people expected them to become penniless within five years. But they have another forty or more years of expensive living ahead of them and it doesn’t look like there is going to be much coming in in future (other than an inheritance from Charles, which won’t be insignificant). A hundred million is an awful lot of money but if you are spending a couple of million a year on security then over forty years you won’t have much to left to spend on a lifestyle of private jets.

itsstillmehere · 18/01/2025 12:39

Not2identifying · 18/01/2025 09:19

The British media doesn't seem to be showing much interest. I thought the DM would be all over it but they only have about 3 stories and they are spaced out and you have to scroll down the homepage to find them. Nothing I could see on the BBC or the Guardian (neither of whom do much Royal reporting but they do usually cover big stories). So maybe this will sink without attracting too much attention but surely it will still damage their future professional opportunities; who would want to work for or with them now?

I've read, but have no evidence, that H is in the UK for his court case.

That has changed now. There's an article about the car used for the wedding also used by Wallis Simpson and an article about her getting out the car on the wedding day and refusing help with her veil. Things had got tense on the rehearsals seemingly.

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:39

Atlasvue · 18/01/2025 12:37

Sure Jan

So you agree there is no divorce book then? That you saying there is one is actually not correct...?

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:41

And of course, it is America. If any of the family need medical treatment….

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:42

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:38

It's bene years of people on saying they are running out do money its not sustainable yet here they are still living in that house and clearly still have money to afford to live where they do.

I don’t think many people expected them to become penniless within five years. But they have another forty or more years of expensive living ahead of them and it doesn’t look like there is going to be much coming in in future (other than an inheritance from Charles, which won’t be insignificant). A hundred million is an awful lot of money but if you are spending a couple of million a year on security then over forty years you won’t have much to left to spend on a lifestyle of private jets.

And do you think you would have 100m just sitting in bank doing nothing. Come on now.

Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 12:43

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:39

So you agree there is no divorce book then? That you saying there is one is actually not correct...?

Given that nobody here actually knows Meghan orvwhat goes on in her head, who can say for sure?

We know she keeps a diary.

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:44

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:42

And do you think you would have 100m just sitting in bank doing nothing. Come on now.

No, a significant chunk is tied up in property. Investments go up and down in value. But the cost of living (and security) goes up.

itsstillmehere · 18/01/2025 12:45

@HomeAlonely if you read other sites with these supporters it is clearly stated why.

IcedPurple · 18/01/2025 12:45

WeCantGoOverIt · 18/01/2025 12:38

It's bene years of people on saying they are running out do money its not sustainable yet here they are still living in that house and clearly still have money to afford to live where they do.

I don’t think many people expected them to become penniless within five years. But they have another forty or more years of expensive living ahead of them and it doesn’t look like there is going to be much coming in in future (other than an inheritance from Charles, which won’t be insignificant). A hundred million is an awful lot of money but if you are spending a couple of million a year on security then over forty years you won’t have much to left to spend on a lifestyle of private jets.

A hundred million is an awful lot of money but if you are spending a couple of million a year on security then over forty years you won’t have much to left to spend on a lifestyle of private jets.

Didn't NF confirm that their deal was not worth that much, without saying how much it was worth?

I'm no expert, but I suspect they will only have netted a few million from the deal. The Spotify deal was cut short so that will have been even less. He will have made a ton of money from 'Spare' but that's one and done.

Obviously, as I said above, they are always going to be rich by most people's standards, but Montecito is one of the most exclusive neighbourhoods in California. By those standards, they are the poor neighbours.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/01/2025 12:47

Janiie · 18/01/2025 12:18

It was all so totally predictable. It wasn't ever the 'uk media' it was their behaviour and demands causing all the problems.

God only knows how this will play out but weak, deluded Harry will not cope now that he can't just blame the UK. He will implode at some point and no doubt that is why William hasn't ever retaliated as he knows he'll need to pick up the pieces

Spot on, Janiie, and especially about the predictability of it all; to some of us it was always obvious how this would play out, mainly because neither have the ability or judgement to make what they wanted work ... and so it's proved

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