When will pointless King abdicate

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in favour of another bastion of the Monarchy? Loathe them all but assume it will take another generation to allow them to bow out in some sort of graceful manner - and hang onto loads of Titles, Land, Jewels, money etc. How has someone given the title of 'Queen Consort' i.e ex Mistress is now referred to as Queen and bestowed privileges e.g being allowed to allocate Royal Warrants? Don't know how she's got the gall to wear jewellery that previously adorned previous incumbent let alone the late Queen. Luckily, she does bugger all but retire to the home settled in the Divorce, smoke fags, drink Gin and Dubonnet (smells just like Granny!) and ensures stock of fully functioning Mont Blanc Fountain Pens are to hand - ready to be despatched to King at the faintest sign of a tremulous lip.

Don't blame your limited comprehension on the monarchy.

The point of them is the same as the late Queen. Open your mind.

I think Charles is doing a fine job. It's a shame he got ill early in his reign.

I don't think William is in any hurry for the role.

Yeah sure, putting the homeless in Buckingham Palace will sort it all!!!

You do realise that the monarch does not own all the royal palaces, and that they are integral parts of our history and culture?

I guess you don't do history and culture, somehow...

Some can barely form a sentence let alone a committee!!

Actually - I think Charles has acquired quite a lot of personal property aside from the privately owned royal inheritances and the Crown properties.

More than the Queen had - in fact I don’t think she bought anything extra herself than the inherited ones.

I expect William will try to offload a lot when he is King - maybe keep Highgrove for one of his kids because it’s part of the Duchy.

It’s the obfuscation created by having state-owned properties and privately-owned properties in the same institution that’s the issue imho.

It allows for too many grey areas.

Which properties are maintained via the Sovereign Grant and which are not?

For example Bagshott Hall?

The accounting is all a bit too opaque in my view.

With an elected head of state it would all be much more clear cut. Everything would have to be publically declared. And important documents such as wills could not be hidden.

I think he's even got a place in Transylvania?

When will they all just piss off .Cancer or not.

My sympathy lies with all those people fighting cancer who can't access the very best treatment available in a timely manner or who will get told again and again nothing wrong by an overstretched service and then it's discovered too late. Don't we have quite poor outcomes statistically compared to other countries of a similar economic profile?

Is Charles going to face these additional challenges. No. How much are they creaming off the hard working people dragging their arse to work with a cancer diagnosis knowing they're screwed if they die and leave kids behind.

I don't know how one becomes a Republic and if it's a reality. We can keep their buildings for tourism and stick wax works of them in their place. The wax work version's will probably have significantly more integrity.

That isn't Charles's fault.

Do you feel similarly enraged towards other wealthy cancer sufferers or do you reserve it all for him?

It’s run as a B&B/rental - as are a lot of the properties in the Duchy of Cornwall. But it’s a lot more affordable compared to those because of Romanian prices.

No, it's just for the institution that is the Royal Family.

Edit - you are right that if you're born into that you're not going to just give it up so it isn't directly fault that should lie at his feet.

So you would give Elon Musk a pass???

King Henry the 8th? Queen Victoria? I can't really think of any particularly good looking Kings and Queens so not sure where that expectations from 😅

To be fair, both of these were quite attractive as young people. But the reality is, monarchs get old, especially if they reign for a long time. So they Disneyfication goes away. Because it’s not real life

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He's far from pointless and I hope the King lives a long life.

I just looked up some and you're right about Queen Victoria, though Henry 8th I wouldn't say was. It's hard to tell how accurate it was though too, it could be that they were defining features which at the time were seen as powerful etc too which has changed over time.
I would imagine the portrait painters were very wary of the concequences of painting bad features, especially with Henry! 😂

I have to agree. I feel it's a joke either of them were crowned considering their background. Queen Elizabeth was pressured to allow the man child to marry. It's an insult that Camilla is known as queen - she is a consort which Princess Anne pointed out after her mothers death - but of course aul Chuck dropped that request as well. And people wonder why Harry left. Can't bear either of them and cannot wait to see the back of them.

I think contemporary accounts of the young Henry say that he was an attractive man. It’s difficult to know because standards of beauty and what attractiveness is considered to be will obviously have changed over the 500 years or so since his reign. The one definite fact about him is that he was tall, around 6ft, which would certainly have made him
an imposing figure in Tudor times

How many times does this have to
be explained? Every Queen married to a king is a Queen consort. We just don’t use the full title. It is to distinguish her from a Queen regnant ( reigning) which is what the late QEii was. So Queen Elizabeth married to George vi and Queen Mary before her were both Queen Consorts. We just don’t put the consort in as convention. When the late Queen said that it was her wish for Camilla to be Queen consort, she added the qualifier to make it clear she wasn’t removing Charles form the line of succession and naming Camilla as her heir 🙄

I doubt that many know or care about the difference between the title "Queen" and "Queen consort". To everyone she is referred to as Queen Camilla isn't she? Not Queen Camilla the Queen Consort.

There was a poster earlier disappointed that our Royals are not so beautiful as the Disney versions. Have to say, when I was 16 Prince William as everything I wanted in a handsome Prince. I had a poster from this photo shoot on my wall...I even had a matching shirt!

Prince William Collection 1997 Prince William on River Dee

He's not bad now either.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanityfair.com%2Fstyle%2Fstory%2Fprince-william-is-back-to-work-and-bearded&psig=AOvVaw0HNpf7bg3nWghPDg-VayrJ&ust=1737106933686000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjRxqFwoTCLCWjPz5-YoDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

If you like that kind of thing!

Yes I know that, but it's also been documented many many times that Charles has dropped the Consort title. Let's face it, she is no queen! But yes I am very aware of how it works, thank you.

Perhaps go back to school to learn the difference between a queen regnant and a queen consort. All queens married to a king are Queen consorts, it’s just customary to use the title Queen as most should know the difference.

Edit: apologies I see you do know the difference but just don’t like her being Queen

Well why do you think she should have had the “consort” bit left in when none of the others have if you are “well aware of how it works”? Where has it been documented that Charles has dropped the “consort thing?” Do you have a link? We had a Queen regnant for over 70 years. It is understandable that the consort title was used for a while, as it was (and still can be) difficult to adjust to a new “Queen whatever”. The fact remains that Camilla is just referred to as the Queen because she is the wife of the King. It has always been like that

Poor old Phil the Greek. He was never able to acquire the title King Consort was he? And they talk about equality!

I know, I know, there are rules about titles and Queens regnant and Kings regnant and all that mullarkey, but still, he must have been raging about Camilla the Queen Consort.